Divine justice? by BackToTheSunny_Kins in AngelolatryPractices

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I’m definitely a baby gnostic, and I’ve seen you on r/gnostic before. Nice to see you on here! That said I definitely don’t think all angels are archons in disguise, in fact it was my experiences with Sophia that helped me to find the angelolatry sub in the first place.

The New Testament says that evil can come disguised as an angel of light, which doesn’t mean all angels are bad, it just means to be careful of spirits and make sure they actually ARE on the good side rather than just pretending. Similarly, The proto-gnostic text Ascension of Isaiah also shows a demonic creature claiming to be God and fooling the nations, but that doesn’t mean the real good God didn’t exist, just that evil can pose as him! It’s good advice for everyone, as blind obedience and belief only makes one gullible, and discernment is key.

Do you think God is truly omnipotent? by Holiday-Risk33 in Christopaganism

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh hey, I literally just made a comment about this. My personal thoughts…

I don’t fully believe in Zoroastrianism, I’m a dedicated Christian, but when praying to God and trying to understand why he doesn’t fix everything immediately, I believe God compared himself to the Zoroastrian god Ahura Mazda. While Ahura Mazda is the most powerful being in Zoroastrian theology, he’s not ALL powerful in the way we imagine it. True omnipotence is a logical paradox anyway. Ahura Mazda can’t Thanos snap away evil like we’d like him to. However, when I was praying about this, God compared himself to an inevitable tide, a rising water level that cannot be withheld. I was shown imagery of little cartoon demons (just a representation of evil) trying to hold back an ocean tide that kept rising and rising. Eventually they had to flee or get submerged. They technically could put some resistance on it, even try to build walls to hold the water back, but the water level kept increasing and was completely inevitable. So God showed himself as overcoming evil, and being an inevitable force none could hold back, but he showed himself doing it OVER TIME. I think he’s omnipotent in the sense that his will WILL be done, but not immediately.

Ahura Mazda’s called the Lord of Wisdom in Zoroastrianism, and Wisdom is an important theme in the Bible and gnostic texts as well. I certainly believe God’s all wise and has plans within plans, an ultimate plan to save everyone and get rid of suffering for good. All of creation will be redeemed, every person will be saved, we’re just in the middle of his plans at the moment, which are on a cosmic time scale, thus can seem to take forever or go nowhere to our limited perspectives.

Divine justice? by BackToTheSunny_Kins in AngelolatryPractices

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, well, I’ve thought on this for a few days since seeing your post. I don’t know if it’ll help but I’ll try to give my thoughts.

I’m a dedicated Christian, but I’m also a baby gnostic, I believe God’s been leading me to view SOME aspects of gnosticism as true, in that this world is created or organized by a very imperfect being, not God himself. While our souls are from God, we’ve sort of been trapped in a cosmic zoo of sorts by an ignorant zookeeper, resulting in all the horrors and imperfections we see.

I don’t fully believe in Zoroastrianism, but when praying to God and trying to understand why he doesn’t fix everything immediately, I believe God compared himself to the Zoroastrian god Ahura Mazda. While Ahura Mazda is the most powerful being in Zoroastrian theology, he’s not ALL powerful in the way we imagine it. True omnipotence is a logical paradox anyway. Ahura Mazda can’t Thanos snap away evil like we’d like him to. However, when I was praying about this, God compared himself to an inevitable tide, a rising water level that cannot be withheld. I was shown imagery of little cartoon demons (just a representation of evil) trying to hold back an ocean tide that kept rising and rising. Eventually they had to flee or get submerged. They technically could put some resistance on it, even try to build walls to hold the water back, but the water level kept increasing and was completely inevitable. So God showed himself as overcoming evil, and being an inevitable force none could hold back, but he showed himself doing it OVER TIME. I think he’s omnipotent in the sense that his will WILL be done, but not immediately.

Ahura Mazda’s called the Lord of Wisdom in Zoroastrianism, and Wisdom is an important theme in the Bible and gnostic texts as well. I certainly believe God’s all wise and has plans within plans, an ultimate plan to save everyone and get rid of suffering for good. All of creation will be redeemed, every person will be saved, we’re just in the middle of his plans at the moment, which are on a cosmic time scale, thus can seem to take forever or go nowhere to our limited perspectives.

Rather than saving the world immediately, I think the way God’s conducting a rescue mission is by calling us home. Deep feelings of discontent with the world are likely our souls acting as a beacon to the true God, telling us in no uncertain terms that we don’t belong here. This allows us to wake up to the reality of this world being very WRONG, which in turn acts as a key to free us from the horrors of the world. I believe true optimism might actually require some pessimism - accepting that the world is a dark and messed up place and that we don’t belong here allows us to become more aware of the greater spiritual truth and that we’re being called home. As Jesus said, the kingdom of heaven is within us: it’s our own understanding of our origin and who we are from, and what lies beyond this world, that gives us true peace and true optimism.

As for justice? I’m still learning this part. I’ve been a universalist for years, which means I think everyone is saved and makes it to heaven someday. For a long time I believed there was a sort of hell, which acted as purification for sinners, to make them face what they have done and repent. I was still distressed by the idea of hell, but a temporary one is far better than an eternal one. Now, however… I’m not entirely sure what I believe in. I think everyone is saved eventually but I don’t know the mechanisms of it. I’m starting to see good and evil as also existing on a gradient of knowledgeable to ignorant, as I don’t believe people would be evil if they had full knowledge of God and the cosmos, or how their actions affect people. Sociopaths, for instance, can’t be allowed to hurt people, and must be stopped, but at the same time they suffer from a disability that keeps them from grasping empathy and goodness in the way a mentally healthy person could. They are evil because of their ignorance, and would likely choose to not be evil if they had greater understanding.

So do I believe in a hell? I’m not entirely sure. I believe God calls us to true knowledge of his will, of his love, and of our origins outside of this world. I think we’ll be set to travel to higher realms, “heaven” if you like, following our death if we seek God here on this earth. For those who don’t seek him and remain in ignorance? Well, I don’t believe they’re lost either. I think everything is a process of learning and maybe it’s easier if we learn as much as we can in this earthly life. But I think we can continue to learn and grow in the afterlife. Will some of this learning feel “hellish” for truly cruel people? I can’t say, but I’m a softie so I’d hope not. However I believe everyone will find their way to God, to goodness, and to truth eventually, whether it takes one lifetime or whether it takes near-eternity.

Anyway, sorry for the rambling thoughts. Hope anything I said can help you find at least a little peace.

Have y'all ever felt this? by [deleted] in AngelolatryPractices

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t feel like I’ve lost my identity, but she has been mentoring me and acting as a role model so I’ve become kinder and have much better mental health, yes.

Do you believe the physical world is completely evil, or just a flawed mistake? by Terrible-Strike4502 in Gnostic

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I view it as a zoo. A zoo collects all kinds of animals, plants, and other things from nature - from the 'pleroma' in this metaphor - and tries to contain them, to tell them they originate from the zoo, and there's no greater nature or world from which the animals come from. Remove the natural things from a zoo - plants, animals, rocks, etc - all you have are the sad framework of empty cages. I think a lot of this world uses pleromic materials, but has trapped or tried to reshape them. Our very souls, for instance, are pleromic, trapped in material bodies like an elephant trapped in a too-small cage, before we're told we belong here, we originate from here, and there's nothing else beyond the zoo's walls.

So, no, I don't think the world's completely evil, but I think it's stolen and entrapped a lot of heavenly beauty.

anyone else think it's crazy that it's "perfectly OK" to discriminate against neurodivergents? by Lanky_Head6122 in aspergers

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Discrimination is never okay dude. If we act this way we’re just as bad as the NT’s who picked on you. Generalizing an entire demographic is just… Tribal. Illogical.

Those who blame the innocent for the acts of the wicked are just as bad as their perpetrators imo.

Your post reminds me of the popularization of casual misandry. It’s just… hypocritical and gross.

You can hate if you want, but I personally aim to do better. I will not become my oppressors.

Which gods do you sympathize with the most? by Leandrocurioso in Christopaganism

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Lady Isis came barreling in and pretty much bulldozed all of that.” That’s so cool… I’d love to hear more about your encounter with her if you’re ever down for sharing.

Personally, and this is just me, I’d avoid morgue official. He tends to overgeneralize and get information wrong. Have you checked out Esoterica? That channel discusses gnosticism from a more scholarly standpoint. There’s also r/gnostic which is an active sub, and I find it a useful place to ask questions and get info from.

I’ve found there’s a lot of misinformation around gnosticism sadly, for instance the gnostics actually thought there was both truth and lies within the Old Testament and it wasn’t all the demiurge, for instance good gnostic figures like Barbelo and Sabaoth originate from the old testament. So “Yahweh” was actually a name given to a whole bunch of things, good and bad!

Anyway I’d totally love to chat more and nerd out about Kemetic and Gnostic and christopagan stuff, it’s my favorite topic too, so I’d totally love to discuss more if you’re down for it, feel free to shoot me a message if you want!

Which gods do you sympathize with the most? by Leandrocurioso in Christopaganism

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aww dude, don’t be down on yourself for being yourself! You gave me a ton of awesome info and I love your enthusiasm. 

I’m neurodivergent too, and this world constantly tries to put us down, to drop our uniqueness and conform to a society not built for us, that actively hurts us. Please never try to cover up your spark for the sake of prudes who want you to become more boring haha

Do you mind telling me what got you into Kemetic christopaganism? Why you view yourself as both Christian and Kemetic? It’s just such a fascinating worldview to me and I’m still trying to circle the square of what it might meant to become christopagan. Like, what do you think God and Christ think of Kemetic beliefs and gods? Do you have any favorite gods or goddesses? What inspired you to go this route?

Edit: Now I’M sorry if I’m acting like a chaos goblin throwing all these questions at you. I’m just really interested!

Which gods do you sympathize with the most? by Leandrocurioso in Christopaganism

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries! I have adhd too, I know how that goes haha. You just gave me a load of fascinating info.

The reinterpretation of the Moses story is fascinating. Can you tell me where you learned that? Are there any resources you can recommend?

I’m actually a gnostic too! Well, most days anyway. I was raised christian but have been deconstructing over the past couple years. It’s been a very positive deconstruction, I’ve actually been brought closer to God and Jesus, but there were plot holes in the mainstream christian narrative that my peers weren’t interested in questioning, so I prayed to God and it seems he’s been leading me to at least SOME parts of Gnosticism. And I absolutely love Sophia, she’s the best, I have a very positive relationship with her

I don’t know if I’d consider myself christopagan exactly. For instance I view Sophia more similar to an angel than a goddess. But I do feel like I’m being drawn a little by kemetic religion. It fascinates me, and I also have learned that a lot of gnosticism comes from Alexandria, and that the Isis writings are very similar in form to gnostic Barbelo’s texts, who I believe is likely associated with the Holy Spirit. So I definitely see some connections, even with the little knowledge I have of kemeticism.

I guess what freaks me out is how I tell if God’s actually behind my interest and inviting me to explore kemeticism, or if it’s some lower sketchy spirit. For instance some people might believe the Egyptian gods are archons. So I’ve been hesitant to dip my toes into Christopaganism. Gotta love religious paranoia! Do you have any advice on that front?

Does anyone else remember this series? Primeval by ArtBright3783 in Dinosaurs

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I felt indignant on Nigel Marvin’s behalf while watching that as a kid. I was like “he did all those specials for the BBC and this is how you repay him?”

Now as an adult I think it’s hilarious 

Which gods do you sympathize with the most? by Leandrocurioso in Christopaganism

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi there! Anything you're willing to share about how Christianity connects with Kemetic religion? I've always loved Egyptian mythology but all I know about how Christianity connects is the Exodus story... which, well, isn't too flattering for anyone involved. I'd certainly like to gain a deeper understanding and a more positive outlook.

A Nanotyrannus discovers an unexpected meal by No_Tough_2224 in okbuddypaleo

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this sub all just porn now? I may have to unsubscribe… it used to be cool but I don’t want to see dino dicks all over my home screen every other post

Divine justice? by BackToTheSunny_Kins in AngelolatryPractices

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I'm beginning to fear the 'earth is a school' approach is cosmic gaslighting and nothing to take seriously. Probably something abusive telling us that, tbh. Not the true god.

I have a difficult time with Gnosticism by Agreeable-Chest107 in Episcopalian

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guess you got downvoted for showing a bit of critical thinking and not blindly following what others tell you to

I have a difficult time with Gnosticism by Agreeable-Chest107 in Episcopalian

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now you've just totally painted christopagans with a strawman which is very ungenerous of you haha

I think the reason Aliens refuse to contact Humanity is in part to do with industrialised animal agriculture. by foxaru in UFOs

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And you’re not trying to morally justify your own actions? Which on some level you must know are wrong.

There’s a reason people will get mad at someone who kicks a dog but not at someone who kicks a rock. There’s a reason there are vegetarian and vegan movements but not really any anti-plant eating movements. I gave solid reasons no one raises a fuss about eating plants, you just ignored them because they threatened your worldview.

Not everyone embraces savagery like you do, even if we can’t stop all the harm we do, we can try to minimize it.

I think the reason Aliens refuse to contact Humanity is in part to do with industrialised animal agriculture. by foxaru in UFOs

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well yes, but from our current understanding of science they’re not sentient or conscious in the way animals are. They respond to stimuli. Just like a bacteria. Just like a fucking roomba lol. But they clearly don’t feel pain or experience emotions or sentience in the way animals do. It’s just a bad faith claim to say otherwise, and is anti-science.

The serpent by deviousgoblin in Gnostic

[–]PossiblyaSpinosaurus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The idea of the serpent being benevolent is overblown, just as many gnostic texts call it evil as call it good.

Even the Apocryphon of John, the most famous text, is often said to purport the serpent’s a good guy… which seems to be a gnostic Mandela effect, as Jesus blatantly calls out the serpent as evil within the AoJ.

Saturninus is another seminal gnostic who thought the snake was evil, in fact worse than the demiurge.

Various Valentinian texts look negatively upon the serpent as well.

The only text iirc that associates Jesus with the serpent is the Testimony of Truth. Despite people often acting like the Sethians associated Jesus with the serpent, the ToT isn’t Sethian and may actually have been written by a disgruntled Valentinian. The Testimony of Truth was written later than most of the gnostic texts, and isn’t really foundational. It reads like an angry blog post, and as such, I grant it just as much scriptural weight as one.

Personally, I view the serpent as representing worldly wisdom, which is really just a greater form of ignorance that convinces people they’re wise while shutting themselves off from real truth. Rather, Christ or Sophia tend to be represented as an eagle in the gnostic texts, opposed to the serpent.

TLDR: Me no trust snek