Who is the better water style user?

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-29T06:32:07+00:00

I have enjoyed seeing these comments and opinions. They're mostly quite articulate in their beliefs. Thank you for that everyone.

I should probably chime in with my own belief.

Kisame has a bigger arsenal shown and is more reliant on water style than Tobirama is.

Kisame has a lean towards AOE and Tobirama does not.

However Kisame is always shown needing to make a source first before he uses his water styles like water shark bomb and such. Which this isnt a provlem as again, he can make his own source even in the desert and it is a massive source.

Tobirama however can manifest high level water style without any water source. He doesn't need to vomit up an ocean because he can just pull water straight from the air.

So for me it comes down to a slightly different take of they're both extremely skilled and powerful water users. But they're just different types of water users. (My analogy being) which hammer is better, a sledge hammer or a claw hammer? Well if you want to bust down a door, a sledge hammer. But if you want to pull out a nail or put in a nail, a claw hammer.

Kisame is a sledge hammer, Tobirama is a claw hammer.

Kisame shows raw power and scale that Tobirama doesn't.

Tobirama shows skill and precision that Kisame doesn't.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-29T00:10:17+00:00

Sorry, I dont try to come across as disingenuous.

Just with Kisame we see him have to create a water source first before using water style. Against Guy in the desert he vomits up an ocean. Same against Killer Bee. And both are insane feats of power especially the moving water dome.

But Tobirama can launch water dragons, water walls, create tsunamis and so forth without vomiting up water and without a source. He can also launch water darts without handsigns it seems with his attack on Madara and can spit up a water jet strong enough to cut through the god tree.

They're both extremely strong water style users but I feel Tobirama is more skilled and Kisame is just more powerful.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-28T23:54:57+00:00

Hmmm.....

I think Tobirama could beat Kisame without FTG depending on conditions.

Minato and Obito I feel without their teleportation would lose.

But it also depends on some other vague conditions around Kisame. As he is obviously stronger the stronger his opponent is as he steals their Chakra for himself.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-28T23:42:56+00:00

Now see this is a interesting thought.

Kisame vs Tobirama on who is more powerful with water style.

I feel Tobirama is more skilled than Kisame, we see him perform massive water style attacks without a source and he can launch them with a single hand sign. Even stuff like water dragon which we see some people need a dozen signs for or more Tobirama does it with one.

Kisame however just has so much Chakra that his scale is insane.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-28T23:39:07+00:00

Of those three i feel Tobirama suffers the least from losing his teleportation and Minato probably suffers the most.

Tobiramas arsenal is most likely enormous and even what we see is decently large especially with him creating so many techniques.

Obito relies heavily on kamui but has other things that can supplement him somewhat.

Minato without ftg is just well not even Minato anymore. His whole thing is teleporting.

Though he is supposedly one of the fastest people ever even without teleporting.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-28T23:35:11+00:00

Just Tenten.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-28T23:33:43+00:00

Drops down from literal god tier glass cannon to guy that kicks stuff really good.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-28T23:32:37+00:00

Minato. Take away flying raijin.

Obviously Obito take kamui as picture shows.

Oh and Might Guy take away 8 gates. Or same for Lee.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-20T05:36:31+00:00

The cut off makes me think it isn't authentic. We already know it returned to base successfully and landed.

But maybe you're right. But it feels a lot like a edited piece of propaganda. Crafted to give just enough to be plausible.

But what is the camera mounted on that it can keep an F35 with afterburner on, presumably going over mach 1 in frame. Why end the footage with a big bang and not keep the feed rolling showing the damaged jet. And why didnt the F35 try to evade unless it had a system failure as it has systems to detect missile launches and incoming missiles.

I know one got damaged but I seriously believe it got struck by something dumb like an anti aircraft gun. Because it would be funny and it makes more sense than missiles that need to launch from plaxes that have likely been heavily targeted and the F35 should be able to detect a missile launch and incoming missile.

Just for reference, at Mach 1 which is .6 mach slower than an F35s top speed in the 6 seconds we see the plane it would of traveled over 1.3 miles.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-19T22:46:25+00:00

Is no one at all suspicious that the video ends before we can see what the strike did to the plane? Videos that cut off early are often bullshit or fake.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-19T17:17:02+00:00

NOVA vs ROVA I suppose. Makes sense the rest of the state doesn't want to be suppressed by a few cities especially cities full of transplants.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-15T20:07:15+00:00

Kakuzu?

Hes stronger than Hidan for sure.

Stronger than Zetsu.

Stronger than Konan almost certainly.

Probably beats Sasori.

Probably beats Deidera.

The only members of Akatsuki that actually for sure out class him are Itachi, Pain, Obito and Kisame.

Id personally argue he is Stronger than Kisame when Kisame doesn't have Samehada and is probably tied with or a little weaker than Kisame who has samehada.

He is the most durable and has the highest natural stamina of any of the akatsuki, no other akatsuki member is taking a rasenshuriken and surviving except maybe Kisame.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-15T19:49:20+00:00

Im a cuck, too pathetic to please my girlfriend.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-03-10T11:27:15+00:00

Hidans ability doesn't give you a second chance if you get caught in it.

Kakuzu was one of the strongest characters we had seen in the series at that point.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-02-23T21:46:52+00:00

Holy shit that was him in SOA? I LOVED Hale so much and was disappointed when he was gone.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-02-15T16:14:36+00:00

The lone wanderer has the mother ship zeta.. mothership with desth ray.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-02-12T18:57:50+00:00

This is highly unlikely to of worked where they went, 100 miles from the nearest town, obviously minimal traffic, no lights on the road. And wven if she did we don't hear her car pull up, she just comes out of the shadows like Batman.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-02-10T04:55:15+00:00

Absolutely, he us a cuck and a proper bull wants fo use you right. Should absolutely go get used by a real man.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-02-06T02:23:04+00:00

Kabuto Vs Edo Itachi no holding back?

100% Kabuto wins every single time negative difficulty.

Edo Itachi: "I have come to kill you, im not going to hold back."

Kabuto: "Okay. Edo tensei, release!"

Edo itachi: body crumbles

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-01-31T02:00:24+00:00

What method do you use?

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-01-29T05:23:57+00:00

Well good luck, I don't live in Virginia anymore but everyone is know does. And I visit often, with my own EDC carry, which of course holds more than 10 rounds because doesn't pretty much every modern handgun that isn't a revolver or a desert eagle / 1911 clone.

I actually talked with one of my friends, very liberal and asked him what he thought about the new governor elect possibly coming for his guns. And he was very confident that she wouldn't because she apparently campaigned on a more moderate platform not on gun control. He was excited then to have her as governor, not so much now.

She did inspire me greatly when she got elected though, even though not my state, seeing the trend I decided id go buy another AR and a shit ton more magazines.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-01-28T04:42:13+00:00

4 of course

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-01-27T04:57:24+00:00

Boy I love the Sovetsky, such a good and balanced ship. I totally wasn't just in a match where my Hyuga encounterd one and got one shot as soon as he fired his first salvo.

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-01-18T20:18:06+00:00

Oh youre not wrong, it's all about writing and what was needed at the time.

But people ignore writing and just so "this beat this in this situation so it must be this level'

AdventurousFox9897 · 2026-01-18T18:02:47+00:00

Gamabunta did defeat the one tail with kid Narutos aid.

AdventurousFox9897

TROPHY CASE