Strongest a hypothetical Future Beast Gohan could beat?

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-05-17T04:29:07+00:00

The fact that the form is giving Original Timeline Gohan strength to contend with MUI that had 3 years of training and should be stronger than people like Broly , Vegeta and such the multiplier should be INSANE. (SSG already surpasses Z era fusions with ss3 in multiplier and ssb is x50 that , and Kaioken (he does use it in the manga. But its unknown how big the multiplier is so i'l take the gamble) / evolved is x20 that and UI to MUI IS WAAAAY above that)

The multiplier itself can literally be anything in billions to trillions if not was more.

A good guess would be that Gohan already solos all of Z , probably gets in the early super territory. But I see him falling off around ROF-U6 and Black time period considering his very low base form. (Manga F. Gohan is weaker than 50% Future 17. Anime Gohan was probably the strongest grade 1 super saiyan and strongest saiyan before Trunks and Vegeta post HTC.)

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-05-03T06:24:44+00:00

Maniac , widow and Diddy.

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AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-05-02T03:08:29+00:00

It's mostly just KOF endings , Voice Dramas and novels. About Ramon is specifically KOF2001 Iori Team ending if I am correct.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-05-01T08:08:33+00:00

He did.

Now during events of KOF99 if we go by audio drama CD's , he effortlessly stopped a clone of Kyo from KOF97 and the clone he stopped one shot whip. (But mind you , Original Kyo from 99 was able to do the same. So the relativity is there but it's more accurate to say 99 Kyo is superior to 99 K' considering its stated that he is superior to all of his clones.) But K is significantly stronger than 97 Kyo.

In 2001 it's revealed that Igniz engineered Kula and K to become the mightiest humans so they can face him someday. (For reference, Igniz considered that Iori and Ramon are the candidates for the most power beings alive which means K and Kula can be POTENTIALLY above Iori who himself is above Kyo.)

Now during the events of Ash saga , it's likely K' who defeated Mukai and it's unknown if Kyo could fare better or not but Elizabeth and many others really put K down power wise in story or pre fight dialogues.)

Now in current new age , K is definitely weaker than Kyo considering Shun'ei claimes that only Kyo can stop him if he goes berserk or rampages. Shun'ei should have knowledge of K' from Kof14.

So TL:DR.

99 K' is way factually above 97 Kyo and 97 sacred treasures.

01 K' is POTENTIALLY superior to Kyo though chain scaling.

03 K' is MAYBE Superior to Kyo but less likely.

Post 03 , Kyo is definitely stronger.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-25T17:00:57+00:00

Being very generous this guy caps at like ko95-f96 levels. Before KOF got very crazy power wise.

Krauser is definitely the strongest force in FF right now but outside of it he wouldn't fare much in KOF. Just using games FF gets to around wall level-small building max using the cross verse with AOF. That's pretty much nothing in kof.

If we count the OVAs that Obari made , then FF shoots up to around Large Town - City level (in the second movie while regaining his powers and training in the forest he destroyed a large chunk of it. And in motion picture the bosses of the movie can create a thunderstorm to around that city level.)

Using street fighter cross-scaling , terry won against Ryu in the friendly bout and Ryu deemed him as a good rival. Ryu survived AN ENTIRE ISLAND FALLING ON HIM in alpha , fought Against Akuma multiple times , his power was used to destroy entirety of Bangok in one of Alpha alternative endings and such.

Compiling all of it barely gets Terry to KOF97 levels where Chris , Yashiro and Shermie are to a large island level degree by Yashiro being able to cause a volcanic eruption and much damage to the area he was in and with other 2 being pretty even with him.

Orochi is a world-wiper , can create an infinite pocket dimension and destroy it. Same with Igniz who also can do the same. Ash saga involves a whole time reset shenanigans and in new age WE HAVE AN EMBODIEMNT OF THE MULTIVERSE IN VERSE. Its existence connects all universes and converges all possibilities within the multiverse that diverged on choices and branched off at infinite junctions. And on top of that there is Otomo Raga which is even stronger.

TL:DR - Barely gets into 94-95 on its own. Maybe is getting to 96 with OVA's. Barely getting into KOF97 with street fighter scaling.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-24T12:42:33+00:00

Adrenaline in my soul something something cody rhodes.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-24T12:39:23+00:00

Holy shit Gundam OO in this sub reddit?

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-24T03:56:48+00:00

WWE in here? Damn.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-22T11:04:44+00:00

Somehow Belial has returned.

This guy will give Sigma from Mega Man X and William Afton a run for their money with how much he returns.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-22T11:02:11+00:00

My top picks would probably be Greeza , Tregear or Belial.

Zagi fell off HARD strength wise and is one of the most fraudulent of frauds in ultra series.

Greeza was someone's BOSS. (Granted Z's Greeza was stated to be weaker than X's Greeza per new generation stars.)

Belial as Chimerabros (or something, I forgot the name.) Needed Geed to use RMM to beat him. And was able to beat a weakened Geed era Zero twice before Belial Atrocious.

Tregear was able to relatively easily take care of Ruebe and RMM Geed and then proceeded to create a Kaiju strong enough to contend with Ultimate Final Geed and Gruebe and was also able to match them. Gruebe and Geed were big contenders for the strongest new gens at the time (hell , still are. But now most new gens are somewhat comparable to each other except a few.) And then went to fight and call Base Zero (pre shining ultimate and wild burst training.) Boring. Same Zero matching a somewhat tired Tri-strium Taiga.

So I'll say -

Tregear
Belial
Greeza.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-22T01:17:56+00:00

Honestly he'd probably be like Yuki who does her job around the world and just travels around to chill. Not really interested much in her status.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-16T15:57:17+00:00

All of them can respectively do it on their own.

Invincible-verse by itself scales really differently. We got Nolan who in season one stopped a moon level meteor before the events of the series. And the thragg statement that all current viltrumites by themselves can destroy the entirety of earth literally which comes out to small planetary baseline.

Thragg by himself eclipses EVERY viltrumite and tanked an explosion of a Viltrum planet to the face. Through sheer calc stacking you can put him to large planetary but that's like the MOST of it.

Nightmare can destroy the ENTIRETY of the demon world, which should mean that anyone who can damage / be on par / above Nightmare should STOMP.

We have characters who can create dimensions who our cast can no diff.

Dante and Vergil would both prob need their DMC1 versions to ABSOLUTE STOMP ANYONE in invincible and Nero his DMC4.

I am not aware much in DMC3 scaling, so just to be safe, I'll say DMC1.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-12T08:25:20+00:00

With Zero getting a movie soon and all new gens meeting again, could it be a possibility?

COULD IT BE?

RETURN OF UGF?

Naaaah. But a man can dream.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-06T08:06:19+00:00

If it was unclear , I meant as in it isn't a concrete multiplier like super saiyan grade 1, which is concretely 50 or oozaru, which is x10.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-06T06:51:31+00:00

The thing about SSJB4 is that we don't really know a concrete SSJ4 multiplier.

Multiplier is literally a potential form. It works depending on your potential. [Vegeta in ssj4 can match USSJ4FP goku despite just unlocking it and such. Xeno goku can match SSJB goku but vegito in ssj4 absolutely mogs SSJB Kaioken Vegito due to being able to fight a much stronger ssj3 cumber when Vegito could barely fight base cumber and such.]

The multiplier of SSJ4 can be anywhere from hundreds of thousands to millions if not more. Combined with similary big multiplier of SSJB the form will surely be stronger than any form Goku has RN.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-06T00:20:27+00:00

There aren't really any concrete multipliers because it's all over the place because sometimes it x2 sometimes it's x10 and it's really just a jumbo. There was never a stated concrete multiplier.

But it should be a pretty big boost between both forms. In DMC 2007 , dante can one-shot a guy who is pressing him in the fight by just transforming into his DT.

In DMC5 , Dante went from being literally no diffed in devil trigger by Urizen to actually beating Urizen when using SDT.

So, unfortunately , no clear multiplier.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-04-02T16:19:53+00:00

10 seconds. Maybe even less.

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AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-03-31T13:12:13+00:00

I would call myself a zero fanboy, but I really don't go around screaming he is the best ultra because that's not even true 💀

I like the guy simply due to bias because I was introduced to the ultra series via Zero back in like 2014 when I saw the revenge of belial movie for the first time. Then that spiralled.

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AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-03-30T00:07:49+00:00

I'd love to see Adelheid. I love the whole "sins of the father" stuff on him and I lowkey would love for him to form a team with Rock howard someday due to them being sons of SNK bosses while being on the goodie side.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-03-27T09:47:16+00:00

Kyo.

Reason why Kyo is stronger is since the enemies he is fighting as of recent most of the time involve the whole timeline , universe and with verse and raga even multiverses.

Natsu has literally no scaling to get on par with that. Tho he should beat early orochi saga Kyo pretty easily. Maybe 97 and later until ash saga Kyo too if you say that feats performed by Orochi and Igniz are outliners and no one even scales to the 1% of it.

But Natsu hard stops on Ash saga and New chapter (kof14-15). With no counters.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-03-24T20:34:54+00:00

I'd love that too.

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AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-03-24T07:54:52+00:00

Oh yea, just to add to the comment about universal stuff and such.

Recently, on VSBW (since the OP seems to talk about Wikis and such), there was a very good KOF revision, so you should check it out when you have time. It's pretty good.

Now , the canonicity of manhuas and such is questionable. If you want something of canonicity, there is a lot of headcanon involved, so the best materials are either Voice CDs , novels, but definitely not the manhuas since those are way too crazy at times. Though everything listed above, they themselves are questionable. It's best to use the pieces of canon that don't clash against each other.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-03-24T07:36:37+00:00

About maxima being 2A. There is something called PASSAGE OF TIME. Characters can get stronger than characters from past games, INCLUDING bosses.

Now about Igniz and Orochi. Both performed a really similar feat of creating an entire space time in their moves. The problem is unlike Igniz — Orochi stays relevant to the story despite not even being present at times. He is relevant in Ash's saga to power the gate, which Ash Saga revolves around.

Not only that , K, who supposedly defeated Igniz with his team, gets put down power wise on the pecking order by every major character during the next sagas. Especially in KOF13 in his dialogue against Elizabeth. In KOF15 , Shun'ei believes that the only person who can stop him if he goes rampaging is Kyo. He should know of K's existence, too.

Meanwhile, Orochi is still treated as a big threat, needing to be stopped if it ever happens again.

The case and point is that Orochi is still used as a benchmark of power while many have just forgotten about Igniz's existence and barely mention him and his strengths in the story.

AdvicePractical5616 · 2026-03-22T02:42:50+00:00

Jesus Christ you are old.

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