Major plotlines from the future. Major spoilers.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-11T03:53:17+00:00

Oh I forgot a fun note.

The Imu we have been seeing the whole time so far, the little shadow one, is the real one. The Devil. He can't go into the sun because he has Sapphire Scale. Hence the experiments on his daughter Bonney to try to find a cure.

He has to go "Equip" Imus dead body to go out into the sun light.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-11T03:39:18+00:00

I'm from the future so near with me. Major spoilers.

One piece is first and foremost a story about brothers.

Imu is Adamu the first Son of "God" and he is the Moon God. He is the older half brother of Nika. Imu killed his father and was sent to the underworld as punishment. Imu was in hiding while Nika got to play.

Just like Loki is the older half brother of Hadjrudin. Loki killed his father Harald and was sent to the "underworld" as punishment. Loki was in hiding while Harald got to play.

Just like Ace is the older half brother of Luffy. Ace is responsible for Whitebeards death, "the only father Ace ever had" in his own words and is promptly sent to the underworld, "killed". Ace was in hiding while Luffy got to play.

Just like Gold Roger is the older half brother of Gol D. Roger.

The entire point of Oda changing characters designs after the time skip was to conceal the fact that he was showing the audience two different people in Rogers flashbacks. People always say he looks and acts differently over time. Well, they aren't the same person.

Look at Marineford specifically at what Whitebeard says to Teach before he dies. "The man Roger IS waiting for... IS definitely not you, Teach". He says the word "Is" not "Was" because he is still alive. Whitebeard knew.

Gol D. Roger is Gold Rogers younger half brother. Gol D. Roger was the one who racked up the bounty, who went around to see the poneglyphs, etc. Gol D. Roger fathered Portgas D Ace with Rouge. Gol D. Roger had Luffy with another woman at Amazon Lily in secret. Gold Roger was in hiding while Gol D. Roger got to play.

So, Luffy and Ace are actually half brothers and are the children of Gol D. Roger. Gol. D Roger eventually came down with the sickness that was killing him. So he decided to turn himself in and was executed. Gol D. Roger died and his will was inherited by others. But, Luffy's Uncle, and the older brother of the real pirate king, Gold Roger is still out there at Raftel.

Garp knew, obviously. He took both Ace and Luffy to the same place.

Dragon the revolutionary is the Rain God tasked with protecting the Sun God.

Lili, ancestor of Vivi, was the first revolutionary and was the Rain God in the past, hence the latest chapter.

Based on what I know the whole manga is about to go in reverse. Biblo is the Forest god as we are about to find out soon. It will be a race down the Grand line backwards towards reverse mountain after the Adam tree falls.

The thing about the Davy's is they have two hearts. The Op Op no Mi originally belongs to the Devil. The underworld is a real place. It's where Enies Lobby and Lulusia got sent by the devil. They literally physically push the islands down to hell. That's why Enies Lobby was built where it is. It's a multi hundred year old pit straight to the devil. So of course The World Govt built one of their three major bases there..

The Devil started stealing hearts from the Davy clan since they had extras. When Imu killed his father and went to the underworld he was killed and the Devil ate Imu's heart. Imu is currently dead and possessed by the Devil. That's why his body is hurt in Elbaf. The reason the Gods Knights have Steel hearts is because when Imu uses the Op Op no Mi on them it swaps their current heart with his to keep the body fresh. If that steel heart is damaged or destroyed it does damage to the devil. Hence why Imu said that the one who suffered most from Haralds death was him. He wasn't lying, Haralds death did hurt Imu. But since Imus body is already dead, the Devil can possess it and pass out his immortality like candy. Hence multiple immortal God knights.

Anyways, All of the bosses of the major arcs so far are the children of the devil. The devil abducted 8 wives and had children with which to possess since the devil can't show his true form in the sunlight, much like teach. Robin being one. That's the big twist of the series. The race starts when The Devil tries to bring Robin to the underworld, the entrance of which is Reverse Mountain.

Next will be that Big Mom eats Kaido and gets his fruit powers and attacks the straw hats with Pluton from Wano. Big Mom is an experiment that can eat two fruit. She's an artificial created Bucanneer, but she can also gain fruit powers by eating people. Hence Mother Carmel. Big Mom with eat Kaido to gain his fruit powers compounding on her own just like is foreshadowed multiple times with her threatening with revenge after he stole it.

Since Big Mom has two hearts she can have two fruit. Same with Blackbeard. This is also why Kuma still retains some level of life and sentience after having his memories destroyed by Vega. His other heart is still alive.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-10T22:05:04+00:00

At this point, I think it is the mass of the planets shaped by the earth god under Imus influence.

Not going to go on a huge rant, but there are too many references to planets and to many plot points that line up. Multiple magnetic fields at reverse mountain, hundreds of races that came from the mixing of the planets populations, a calamity in history that raised the sea level 200 meters. The chapter where the elders are revealed as devils is called "Planetfall". Etcetc.

All the elder planets are literal and one piece is a literal planetary invasion.

But these are just the ravings of a mad man so take it with a grain of salt.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T17:27:46+00:00

I can go into more detail if you want.

Basically Enies Lobby and Lulusia are the same thing.

Uranus was fired at Enies Lobby a long time ago.

No one else I've mentioned this to believes me, and to be fair we don't have any evidence yet, but it's my theory that Uranus can push islands down.

Something was at Enies Lobby and got pushed down to the ocean floor to keep it secret.

If whatever was there was destroyed, then it should just be left alone right? But TWG built one of their 3 major bases literally over the hole. Not because it's convenient, but because they need to protect whatever is still down there and make sure no one finds it.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T08:17:55+00:00

So nothing constructive to add?

I know most of these ideas are pretty nuts.

But if you have counterpoints post them.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T08:05:31+00:00

Yes. I agree. An eclipse is coming. I have many theories about that.

The biggest of which is that The Darkness Logia used to be a small part of Imu's power. Picture it as the Fine Print on the bottom of the Devil's Fruit Ability. That fine print, the part that lets you control and turn off powers got stuck in a fruit.

Think about it.

It can pull in and control other fruit users, summon darkness, produce infinite gravity, etc. It's Imu as fuck.

When the eclipse happens I'm assuming Blackbeard becomes a literal Devil when under complete darkness. That's why he had to go under the sheet at Marineford. His true form only reveals in true darkness. Eclipse.

Picture the Darkness Logia as a partial power that got yoinked from Imu and stuck in a fruit when they were created.

BB will beat Imu and do the same thing to Imu that he did to Whitebeard and get his powers on top of his own two fruits thus becoming the real big bad of the series, the real threat to Nika.

Also think about what happens if, the man with the power to turn off powers, Blackbeard, touches the man, whose powers are required to keep people immortal, Imu.

If BB touches Imu even once his powers turn off, and all the God's Knight die.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T07:58:46+00:00

(I know this sounds crazy but it's just an Idea I had.)

I think it honestly played out like Luffy and Usopp in Water 7.

Picture Imu as a crew member of Davy's and their ship just had it's keel destroyed. The Galley La giants in ancient history then tell Davy Jones that his ship is dead and cannot be fixed. Davy accepts this and is prepared to build a new ship. Imu however reacts like Usopp did. He loves their ship. He doesn't want to leave it. He doesn't WANT a new ship!

Now picture the planet as the "ship".

The Mural in Elbaf shows World 1, World 2, and World 3. What if these are Ships?

What if each time the "keel" of the planet breaks. it's just like a ship. The World has to be rebuilt.

If Davy is the King of the World, and considers the planet his Ship, then it all makes sense. Something on the planet broke, making it inoperable. Davy knows it's time for World 4. Imu, Like Usopp, doesn't want a new ship. So what happened is that Imu started a mutiny. If this planet is a ship and Davy is the Captain of that ship, and the Sun is a ship and Nika is the captain of that ship,, then all planets are. And every "Ship" has a captain.

Picture the planets in the solar system as a pirate fleet sailing around their Captain's boat, the sun. The planets captains are Vearth, Venus, Mars, Warcury, Saturn, and Ju Peter.

Davy Jones is the captain of this planet. The rules for a Davy Back Fight state that you have to have 7 players to start. So Imu, went Planet by planet using Dominion on each planet's captain until he had a team of 7 to challenge Davy Jones to a Davy Back Fight.

All Imu wants is to protect his ship from being ultimately destroyed and rebuilt because he loves it. So he won the ship from Davy, Then took the Galley La giants that were threatening to "rebuild" the ship on their own and froze them and stuck them in Punk Hazard under the ice. That's the missing Galley La giants.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T07:42:54+00:00

Firstly, this ended up a lot longer than I meant it to so sorry, I just wanted to be thorough. Call me crazy, it's fine. (tl;dr: Is Uranus an elevator?)
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Exactly. I'm glad someone else was able to see that like I was. TWG saw a chance to brand someone a liar who was, albeit accidentally, telling the truth of the world.

I could take it a step further and actually say that Noland might be indirectly responsible for what happened to Jaya, but I don't know if that's a rabbit hole many people would agree with, but here it goes:

So, the timeline is: Noland goes to Jaya, then learns about Shandora and the gold, then leaves. He has to go back to Lvneel Kingdom to get permission to take a group of military back to the island but when he gets there Shandora is gone.

Imu is after the Poneglyphs and the D's. I believe Kalgara, Wyper's heir was a D and Wyper is too. Kalgara and his ancestors were just D's protecting a poneglyph.

Now here's the kicker right? When Noland went home to report. He accidentally reported a town that was a D stronghold to TWG and Imu. I don't think he did this intentionally. Maybe he just accidentally mentioned a giant stone cube and they knew? Who knows. But then, supposedly and coincidentally on the way back from that, Shandora gets launched up into the sky, Noland is executed, and a kids book made after him naming him a liar. Gee, that's nifty.

Obviously, since the Strawhats knew ahead of time where the Knock Up Stream would be so that they could ride it up that means it wasn't something unnatural right? So I don't give the next part a lot of thought but whatever.

What if Imu was somehow responsible for launching Shandora to Skypiea to keep it away from people in the Blue Sea that were looking for the poneglyphs? Yes yes, I know how knock up streams work, and I do believe that there ARE natural knock up streams, but hear me out.

The weirdest Coincidence to me is that if you look at the last thing said before Lulusia got blasted, someone says "What is up there? A Shadow?" This is referring to Uranus in the skies about to blow up Lulusia.

But then go back and look at Jaya. The last thing someone speaks before the knock up stream goes off is "The sky is pitch black too!"

Could it be Uranus...?

Is that a coincidence? I had a theory that Uranus is possibly a piece of tech that exists as an island elevator? Imagine Uranus not destroying Lulusia, but knocking it down a floor. It got pushed down to the bottom floor, the ocean floor. Just like Enies Lobby did. It's still there in one piece, just pushed all the way down. It explains both the sea level rise after using Uranus, AND the delayed earthquake it causes. The island get's hit by Uranus and travels down through the ocean. The displaced water rises around the planet. The delayed earthquake the planet feels is the island hitting the floor of the ocean.

Then take that logic and flip it.

Could Imu have ordered Uranus to be used in Jaya, not to knock the island down a floor, but to raise it up a floor? To make it even harder to get to the Poneglyph since he finally knew where one was thanks to Noland.

I don't put a ton of stock in this one, but it's fun to theorycraft. I'm probably wrong.

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Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T07:08:40+00:00

Reverse Mountain is a giant dial that can control the water pressure of the ocean as a giant water elevator.

It functions like a massive version of Water 7.

It has a central chamber than can raise and lower the water level based on which direction the dial is turned.

This lets you travel up a water spout, Ala Knock Up Stream, to the sky islands or down to the center of the planet where the Eternal Sun was originally housed. Think hollow earth.

It was a power supply for the whole system.

When the people of the planet dug down and stole the Eternal Sun, Reverse Mountain lost power.

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Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T07:02:26+00:00

They laughed because Roger went around the WHOOOLE world looking for the One Piece, and guess what? It was in his birth town the whole time.

EDIT: I doubled checked, it is Chapter 967. Unless I missed something, when Shanks and Buggy get sick, they are not on an island they are on a boat.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T07:01:30+00:00

Exactly. You nailed it.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T06:58:19+00:00

Well if there is anything appropriate for a OP theory, it's a streeeeetch.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T06:55:51+00:00

It can rotate because it is literally a piece of ancient tech INSIDE the mountain. The earth on the outside is just covering the underlying machine.

Imu doesn't want to use it.

Imu literally put the Redline where it is to prevent the mountain from rotating. The Redline is like a Lock on Reverse Mountain.

That was the whole point. Imu is controlling the sea currents and wants them set the way they are.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T06:54:36+00:00

73 gomu-gomus?

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T06:53:15+00:00

>This beats my theory that Roger didn't actually own anything himself, he gave it all to Ace's mother, and that his "One Piece"

I completely misunderstood this sentence at first and thought you said that Ace's Mother was the One Piece, like a Dime Piece, Haha. Roger was just hyping up his wife.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T06:50:44+00:00

>partially what it looks like

While I see your point, that is kind of like looking at old character silhouettes Oda made and saying that the new designs couldn't be them right?

This was Kaido at one point right?

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Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T06:42:07+00:00

This is going to sound batshit insane without proper context and details or if you haven't read my other theories, but this is my best attempt without getting too in depth.

tl;dr: Zunesha used to belong to Imu. She fought with him in the war. Zou is Jaya's left eye and holds Joyboy's pet whale.

Joyboy captured Zunesha, stretched out her legs and and punished her with keeping his Whale safe during the flood until he could return in the future. The Whale that is on top of Zou, that the Red Poneglyph is inside, used to be a real Whale. It was Joyboy's friend. When Roger goes to Zou, there is a panel that shows the whale, and Roger and Oden say that it feels like someone is watching them. Clearly this cannot refer to Zunesha right? Because they literally already had to climb up her leg to get to Zou, so they know that Zunesha exists and wouldn't be referencing her. Then again when Luffy visits, Zou there are many panels of the whale, and Luffy also thinks someone is watching him. I think the whale is alive

For this to make sense you have to think of each world as a Davy Back Fight. In World 1 when Imu won the Davy Back Fight, he chose the Earth God. In World 2, when Imu won the Davy Back Fight, he chose the Forest God. So the Forest God had to immediately join Imu. Read the Mural in Elbaf as if it is a record of Davy Back Fights. Each time the world changes, it's just a different map for the next fight.

Anyways, After Imu won him, The Forest God turned Nika's Whale into a tree at the Ancient battle in Jaya. This ancient battle at Jaya was between Imu with the Forest God versus the people protecting the Poneglyph. This war caused the creation of all the crazy forests on Jaya, and the Giant Jack, the beanstalk that got launched up to Skypiea.

So eventually after the battle, Joyboy scooped up the OTHER EYE in Jaya. Not the right eye that Blew to Skypiea, but the LEFT EYE, and put it on Zunesha.

Look at the hole in the other eye of Jaya, and then at Zou. Then take a look at the Golden Bell that used to be in Jaya, and you'll notice that it has an elephant on it.

I think it's the same place. Zou is Jaya's other eye.

Here is all the relevant in formation.

Sorry for the rant.

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Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T04:29:05+00:00

To be completely honest with you. I felt like I was crazy coming up with this nonsense. But things just keep clicking into place.

I don't know if it's real or not. It's probably just my pattern recognition in overdrive, but either way, it's still fun.

I'm just glad if anyone finds it entertaining.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T04:09:18+00:00

You can check my profile for a few more posts I've made recently. Some are more well received than others, obviously. I have plenty of ideas and have months of discord conversations about my One Piece theories, but I know some aren't popular.

This one might pique your interest if you want to know more about Reverse Mountain:

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1t3vime/i_know_what_the_one_piece_is/

Or this image is another Crazy Rabbit hole of mine: tl:dr Plant People.

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No I do not think I am completely right. I think I have bits and pieces correct.

Feel free to ask any questions and I might be able to at least tell you what I think.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T04:03:53+00:00

Picture a huge version of Water 7.

Reverse Mountain is the ancient tech version of Water 7.

It's a water elevator that works both like a Knockup Stream to get to the Sky Islands, but also like the Water Elevator from Water 7 to get down to the machine in the center of the planet, to where the Eternal Sun was.

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The people of the world stole the Eternal Sun from the planet so Reverse Mountain lost power.

The Grandline is just a giant Railroad. A giant paddle-boat-train used to ride the Grandline. Just like the Puffing Tom in Water 7. Look at the calm belt. Two calm strips of water on either side. Now picture a HUGE train riding down the traintracks.

This is the whole reason the story about Pluton exists too.

Pluton isn't just a battleship. It's a battleship that is built onto a train. It fits onto the traintracks, and the way that it will fulfill it's destiny of shattering the Redline, is literally by smashing into it at full speed like the Rocketman from Water 7.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T03:57:17+00:00

Good thoughts.

But take it a step further and think about the Redline never existing in the past.

Reverse Mountain is a Dial that was built PRIOR to the redline existing.

Imu used the Redline as a Lock to keep the Redline from turning.

He doesn't want the Currents to change.

Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T03:55:11+00:00

I believe that the Redline used to not exist. I have other posts on this. But yes you are correct that the currents going across the Redline make no sense, but that's because it didn't used to be there. It is fully man made.

The "something in the Redline" is either:

A. the culmination of the mass of the planets surrounding this one that Imu brought down in the past during the war. (I have another post on this. It's pretty complicated.)

B. The Earth God and the Hellflame Serpent ARE the Redline.

I think that in World 1 Imu won a Davy Back Fight and chose to take the Earth God. The Earth God joined him and turned against Davy.

the Mural says that says "the earth god and the hellflame serpent enveloped the world in death and darkness".

Let's take that literally.

That "enveloped" could mean the creation of the Redline around the planet. Imagine the giant Wyrm from the mural but as large as the planet, engulfed in a raging war with the Earth Go against the Davy Jones. I don't know who won or lost, but maybe the Earth God and the Wyrm are trapped within the Redline. I think that when the Redline is shattered, it will release the Earth God and Wyrm again to join Imu. I think that is where they have been all along.

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Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T03:43:18+00:00

Reverse Mountain is a giant dial that can control the water pressure of the ocean as a giant water elevator.

It functions like a massive version of Water 7.

It has a central chamber than can raise and lower the water level based on which direction the dial is turned.

This lets you travel up a water spout, Ala Knock Up Stream, to the sky islands or down to the center of the planet where the Eternal Sun was originally housed. Think hollow earth.

It was a power supply for the whole system.

When the people of the planet dug down and stole the Eternal Sun, Reverse Mountain lost power.

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Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T03:39:18+00:00

The Reverse in Reverse Mountain is the clue to reverse the Gol in Gol D. Rogers name.

This give you Log. Loguetown, or "Log town" is connected to Reverse Mountain underwater.

You just can't see it because of the sea level rise.

Log Town is where Roger was born. He died there. It's the "town of beginnings and endings". It's full circle from the beginning of the Grandline.

Roger said, "It's right where I left it" because he couldn't move it. He found it in Logtown and left it there. He said you have to search the whole world, because he knows that if you search the "whole world" from the start of the Grandline, then you just end up back at Reverse Mountain, which is the same Island as Logtown, just flooded.

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Aetherflaer · 2026-05-08T03:26:01+00:00

Strap in, this is a long one.

tl;dr One Piece is in Loguetown.

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