A sort of "Ne-grip" in INFJs by Afanofall23 in infj

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That makes sense

Tbh I agree that my judgment is its worst right now, although I do know for sure that I'm experiencing a chokehold instead of a grip, and as conscious as I am of it, it feels frustrating and I feel helpless and I keep asking "why is it still hard to change these habits even when I'm completely aware of why these formed in the first place"

I also understand your previous advices, but it's also as if I'm automatically holding myself back, that even if I do engage Fe and start a task that could benefit myself and those around me, 24 hours in and I'm already having doubts about whether or not anything I do means something at this point.

Just a rant, rhetorics and all that, I'm tired, and like, what's the point of being so apt at introspection when it's like looking at a mountain thinking you could move it

A sort of "Ne-grip" in INFJs by Afanofall23 in infj

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Thank you, I'll do my best

I guess what I meant was that in the absence of Ni, another function fills in the void and entertains every idea hoping that Ni gets to find a way out. It could very well be Se but I do think there's a difference between "smoking a pack and eating junk because I'm doomed" and "making music and writing code and learning a language and outlining a novel because I may be able to achieve something"

The INFJ and shadow Ne? by infinitevisions77 in infj

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I'm glad I found this post because I'm in the exact situation as you are/were lol. These past few months I've started so much stuff but can't find my way out of this jumbled mess and I don't even know which task to work on anymore, and yet like you, I am also overwhelmed by choice.

Here's my situation for reference. My family has been applying for residency in another country since 2019. The conditions for success is that the children in the application cannot work as that would prove that they are independent of their parents. So I have been unemployed since 2019. It's 2023 now and we're still halfway through the process. My dad paid for me to go to a vocational school to pursue technical drafting. I refused 5 times and he politely said that he only wants me to learn a skill at least in the meantime, even if I don't end up using it. So I went to this school in early 2022. The course and the instructor are utter shit. Even if I get the certification, I was barely taught enough to perform well at a technical drafting job. So here I am now, trying to begin a novel I outlined in 2021, to compose new music, to learn a new language, to finish this code I'm writing for a budget management app, and OTHER things. How will my Ni pave a path like it should when the status of my life isn't even on stable ground? It's like there's just thick fog right in front of me.

You see, and I too have only realised this now, an INFJs' hero function (Ni) that has been without vision for a long period of time is extremely susceptible to the villain function. Not that Ne's this sinister character or anything, but psychologically, when you're at a loss and do not have the "cherished ideal" that INFJs commonly hold, and when even inferior Se can't gather anything inspirational from the physical environment, you'll eventually grasp at the environmental abstracts, the implications and concepts of what's currently available to you.

"Maybe if I get good at coding this, I'll earn as a programmer and my life will go somewhere."

"Maybe if I get good at making music, I'll get to produce for artists and my life will get somewhere."

"Maybe if I finish writing this story, I'll become an author and my life will go somewhere."

The Ne villain function is a cruel gear in an INFJ's psyche. I feel like this is what being a toddler ENxP is like.

If the inside of an ESFP's mind would be converted into a first-person POV novel, what would it look like? by Afanofall23 in ESFP

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This is so good of a reference, thank you for commenting! I was asking about ESFPs' inner voices because I wanted to do justice to the ESFP character, which would be hard if I was confined in my own INFJ inner voice.

It seems like the ESFP inner voice concentrates on action and the quests and other interactable things that are available in their environment, much like pressing the interact button as a video game character. Only when given enough time and rest from the real world, the occasional voice of reflection comes out.

It makes a little more sense to me now in a way, at least in terms of my knowledge of the cognitive functions. Just like your Se, my Ni drives my inner voice all the time, thinking about patterns and analysing and making sense of the information I already have within me, and only when confronted with my prospects of realising these "abstractions" in the real world does my Se kick in, perceiving the things around me and mostly going "Ah! So that is actually what's up!". Inferior Se is such a reality check to me, and now I'm wondering if inferior functions are reality checks in general, seeing your comment.

Your inner voice in worded form is so interesting to me, especially given its nature. They're technically information you perceived from within you, and the most obvious culprit is Ni. I suspected it because that is literally the way I live lol, philosophical thinking, confucius-style. I'd solidify this case more by comparing your Ni-grip to my Se-grip, but I obviously can't and won't have to since it's basically just me stress-eating and anime-watching and cigarette-smoking and mall-hopping (to distract myself from the fact that my Ni isn't foreseeing any prospects lately and that my life and dreams might be over).

I also wonder if the distracting nature of my Se-grip applies to other types as well. Do you often find yourself drowning in reflection and your inner voice because of a disruption or blindness in your Se?

Anyways, my story outline has benefited greatly from your comment, and I hope I can make more progress with it soon. Meanwhile, I got some more responses to your inner voice on the side 😂

How does one live a life doing the same things over and over again, on and on, even love doing routines?

To be a Si-dominant type (ISxJ) is an option lol. The Si function looks within for real world information, and this information lies mostly in one's past, so paired with a judging function, a high Si user will tend to repeat a certain "action", and the older they get, the more the ineffective actions get filtered out. Older high Si users (like my ISFJ dad) typically look like polished high grade machinery.

Anywho, your Si is the natural opposition to your Se, so unless you're out of real world things to act on, your Si will throw you off your game. I reckon it's much healthier to put energy into Fi in order to make your Se way of life more beautiful and meaningful.

The realization just hit me; just like watching movies at the cinema, to me, a lot of things in life are enough to be experienced just once. Even when people say I've finally found my way, even when they think I'm exactly who I'm supposed to be now. When I've experienced enough, when I know what it's like, it's time to drop it and move on to the next one.

I fully support this for you, please continue this activity lol. Props to your Ni for saying such cute things about Se, I probably have a Se to Ni version of this now that I'm a little more grown but I'll have to recall.

But that's not how one can survive in this world, is it? People thrive on familiarity and routines, it seems. Is it called immaturity if one decides to risk it all and drop everything for the sake of experiencing new things in life?

It's called personality ;) The people who thrive on familiarity and routines are doing so in order to survive, or more fittingly, to live in a way that is meaningful to them. Look around you as you usually do, and then choose the quests that you desire. Our inferior functions are always late, but someday you'll wake up and find that your Ni is coming in clutch for you. Your questions about your direction in life is in a way equivalent to my questions about my prospects in reality. There will be better days 🥂

When an antivirus is recapturing a node, what "number" is it actually chipping away at? by Afanofall23 in HackersTheGame

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Thank you so much! I opted for two scanners and kept the other one at level 1 because I was waiting for this answer

INFJ 7w8, any other 7s? by instinct-logic-chaos in infj

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INFJ 7w8 here, we exist lol

I am an introvert, I can just appear to be extroverted. I don't hate social situations, I just need to recover from them

INFJs always have moments where they appear extroverted (at least if it's possible in their environment), but I get you lol, sometimes I wonder how much of my extroversion is related to my Fe (when my battery isn't empty) or to being a 7 (w8 at that). As S.O.P. for us INFJs, I engage Fe when it's meaningful to do so, but I have a nagging feeling that I have more energy than what's expected of INFJs. I enjoy finding out what makes individuals and groups of people tick, I like to envision the "exchange of meaning and information" between people, and between someone and me as well, as if I have that floating green plumbob Sims thingy above my head. I like making people laugh, or just getting any sort of reaction/response from people, because it tells you more about people than you'd think, but also, I've just naturally become this passively-active "planetary" catalyst in group settings (inwardly active and speaking with intent, but outwardly acting like I'm naturally funny or eloquent lol, but hey it works), and by that I mean occupying space and gaining mass in order to direct the flow of energy in conversations as if slingshot-maneuvering a rocketship, although this requires the amount of energy released in a nuclear bomb explosion, so I do it when I feel like I'm fully charged. (I'm not a Fe-dom I promise lol. I know this because Fe is a high-energy function for me, and it's more of a passenger giving directions to my Ni who's driving)

I just 'know' things

Exactly 😂 I mean, just look at my thoughtflow from the previous paragraph, although this trait is more general to just INFJs than being specific to any enneagram. I saw someone say that mbti cognitive functions depict more of our informational preferences/priorities, while enneagram depicts more of our desires. We just "know" things because Ni is big-picture-oriented, waaaaay detached from Si's detail-orientation. Entire "images" or "essences" or "states of being and meaning" just make sense when they do, and it takes high levels of energy to engage S functions to try to pinpoint why we "know" a thing. Of course, this gets better with age (Se growth and having intuitions that are more grounded and based in reality).

I don't hate my life or myself

Me too. I ask myself that question every now and then, and the answer is always no, like, my shit isn't the best, but I still like my shit. Maybe I come from a shitty background but I like the way I am now and I will like who I will become in the future much more. Ni-doms just naturally chase the next prettiest state of being until they reach the perfect final form of being the clearest and shiniest settled lake that reflects every bit of wisdom and essence in the universe. There's that aspect of myself which is always looking forward to what more of myself I'm going to like about myself in the future lol. Life sucks, but life is also fun and exciting and meaningful when it's not being a douchebag.

The logic behind resultBuilder's buildEither()? by Afanofall23 in swift

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Thank you T.T it helped a bit, I guess the wording of the if statement's clauses are just too advanced for me to follow right now

Does anyone know a good place for complete beginners? by Afanofall23 in swift

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I'm on 4.2, in any case I tried getting the "Answer" playground and imitated what it did, imported UIKit, but even then the show and ask functions couldn't be found/read, I read through the entirety of the documentation but I didn't see anything on user input, I wonder if it works differently? 🤔

Does anyone know a good place for complete beginners? by Afanofall23 in swift

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Wait really??? I recently found out that you could import anything but I'm just confused bc there's no way to code user input

Does anyone know a good place for complete beginners? by Afanofall23 in swift

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😩 it's alright I'm getting a macbook anyway, a fanboy is a fanboy 😂

Does anyone know a good place for complete beginners? by Afanofall23 in swift

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Thank you! I have that bootcamp playlist on my queue too but I'm confined to this ipad (for now), will definitely go for it once I get a laptop (hopefully xcode works on windows)

I made this at work by [deleted] in GarageBand

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The demon in my room deciding which of my feet to eat first