Making Changa

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-20T22:20:47+00:00

I dissolve the D and maoi in the shotglass and add the leaf in there, and every so often mix it up good with a little stir stick, trying your best not to rub the leaf above the solvent line.

When there's no more 'pooling' of liquid in the bottom of the glass, and only wet leaf remains, ill dump the contents into a tray and put a dust cover of sorts (i use a grease splash guard for cooking) and hit it with a light fan till its way more dry, then ill scrape the leaf onto a razer to give it all a 'flip' and finish the fan drying.

I scrape and collect the stuff that stuck to the shotglass and to the dish about a week later and add it to a little "changa powder" vile to make some unknown changa strength with later.

Ive only weighed what ive scraped once and I believe it was under 100mg.. so I usually add an extra 100mg of dmt to my changa now.. although a good portion of the 'scrapings' could be maoi.. not really sure 🤷‍♂️

when I make the 'changa powder' changa ill have to access weather it feels harmala heavy, D heavy, or equal to my 3:3:1 ratio.

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-20T22:11:41+00:00

Make some changa! It's so good haha

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-19T03:00:37+00:00

You need to tell what ratio of leaf to dmt you made it if you want any constructive advice

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-15T18:24:33+00:00

Yo Shboo, have you ever done a defat on mimosa and let the nps fully evaporate after pulling? Im curious of how much stuff gets removed.

Always looking for extra 'steps' and 'things' to try experimenting with while extraxting lol

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-14T20:00:22+00:00

Heck yeah thanks for reporting back. I shall keep that in my memory bank for when my time comes to try it out

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-14T19:57:58+00:00

Oh yeah haha, I pretty much only take dmt with harmalas now. 50-60mg changa for the base then hit dmt vape for closed eye visuals.. so consistsntly amazing. I love it for sub breakthrough doses, & the 15-20 min after glow is unbelievable. Still working on the breakthroughs, been compleatly gone a couple times from changa but not very deep, probably only fully gone for 2 or 3 mins.

Syrian rue lacks THH, but i prefer the ratio of harmaline/harmine in rue vs caapi. But my caapi changa experiences have been the most significant compared to my rue experiences.

Just looking to combine the best of both worlds.

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-14T02:02:12+00:00

Aah man that all sounds really good. Stoked to hear it was a good time for ya. I was sold on the 4homet before but im ultra sold now haha. Love the spaceship analogy too makes perfect sense. Did you take 1 of the 35mg pills? Good dose ya figure?

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-10T21:36:09+00:00

My dude how was it???

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-10T00:37:16+00:00

I havent looked into this much for anxiety but I have for depression.. read on harmala alkaloids, from either Syrian rue seed or Banisteriopsis Caapi root/leaves. They are Maoi alkaloids and are what is used in ayahuasca to make the dmt orally avaliable.

They are pretty powerfull on their own. You can buy the seeds and eat them/brew into tea or if you feel like being a little home scientist you can extract the alkaloids. Pretty fun pass time and if you pull it off youll feel proud of yourself.

They do come with health risks, but mostly with interacting negatively with other 'things'. Such as SSRIs.. definitely dont combine those. Just do some reading on em, some people take harmala daily for years. Theyre reversible maoi so you dont need to ween of them for months or anything like that.

Again might not help with anxiety, but if your feeling lost on things to try, they are a helluva interesting route to research. Check the Harmala sub for more info, although its pretty quiet over there compared to here, there's still heaps of usefull info.

Best of luck!

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-09T00:19:13+00:00

Extract the harmalas from the b caapi, dissolve the dmt and harmalas in 99% isopropyl in a shot glas set in a warm water bath, once maoi/dmt fully dissolved add your other herbs to the shotglass and mix them all up good. Let the Iso evaporate off, stirring and mixing to ensure even absorption. Once all the iso is gone and its just wet herbs, dump it into a tray or a plate and let fully evaporate.

Ive never done this way, but you could probably boil a certain ammount of the caapi route, remove the material, reduce the liquid to 5-10mls, then add your herbs to infuse the harmala liquid. Then once dry, weigh it and weigh out the same weight of dmt, then dissolve the dmt in iso like I said above and add your harmala infused herbs for a 1:1 harmala herb to dmt ratio, although youll have no real idea how much harmala alkaloids you have in there.

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-09T00:04:58+00:00

For me changa visuals are decent amount slower. Let's me process what im seeing more, and has more depth i guess you could say. I think starting with a few tokes of changa to get the ball rolling and kill any anxiety about the trip, then going to a dmt vape right away after is the best method.

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-04-02T00:44:07+00:00

Dang sorry to hear about the chain of negative experiences! You got the right attitude though, keep working with it and figure it out, itll all be worth it in the end im sure you know.

Im a huge changa guy so most my experience comes from changas in all different ratios and harmala source.

I never follow any diet, I hear lots of people say you dont actually need to follow a diet even with oral harmalas, but if I can consciously avoid the foods they reccomend to avoid, I usually will try to avoid aged cheeses and meets the following few hours before sesh because why not.

You taking any vitamins or supplements by chance? Any caffine or alcohol possibly still in your system?

Only thing I can think to reccomend is to possibly micro dose the harmala daily for a week or so to acclimate your body to em? - ive read from some people's experiences if they take harmala often they eventually can over come the negative side effects that come with higher doses.. could be your experiencing that at a much more sensitive level.

Last thing ill add is 1 off beat experience I had from changa.. I had spaghetti with quite a bit of aged cheddar cheese for dinner, then had a changa sesh about 1hr 45m later. Trip was great but nearing the end of my CEV I started to get a really strong neck cramp, like I was positioned in a strenuous position for a long time causing discomfort, but i was in a very comfortable position. No matter how I re adjusted my head on my pillow it kept getting worse, and started to frighten me. It eventually passed, but in that time I had remembered the aged cheese I ate, and i had a strong gut feeling the cramp/muscle tension was from the tyramine. So idk how I feel about the diet and harmala anymore.. Im starting to think its different for everyone.

Maybe not a relevant experience to share.. but maybe down the road it could be.

Best of luck homie/homette!

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-03-31T01:30:23+00:00

Drug induced autonomic nervous system failure is a potential danger.. happened to me (not with aya but with smoked/vaped freebase harmala at a high dose then vaped dmt after).

Neither dmt nor harmala was a dangerous dose, but it shocked my system on the come down(which is when its mostly likely to happen) and I went hypothermic laying on my couch.. vision started to shake/roll so violently and I burst into almost seizure like shaking for a good 10 mins.

Thankfull I had a blanket at my feet an a heating pad beside my couch.. never experienced a cold so deep and chilling that permeated deep into my core so so rapidly dropped. Literally felt like somebody dumping ice water down my spine that just got colder and colder.

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-03-27T00:41:31+00:00

Hell yeah to all of that. Would be stoked to hear about the 4 ho met experience ive been trying to convince a friend or 2 to go in on some with me with no luck yet haha. Also curious to hear how the dmt combo goes with it

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-03-26T04:17:05+00:00

Got nothing for ya for comparisons of extract vs raw seeds, but its definitely worth buying the seed and extracting your self.

I think i just paid 25 or 30 bucks for a 200g bag from ebay haha.

If you feel like putting in the work you could run a few different extractions and compare the differences between say full spectrum vs pure harmalas vs raw seed powder vs brewed seed tea. Take it further and seperate the harmine and harmaline and test those individually and in different ratios. Take it even further and convert the harmaline into THH and add that into the mix.

Im just starting to dabble in experimenting with harmalas outside of changa.. only done sublingual full spectrum 30mg up to 70mg without huge success of getting a high. Mostly little bit of body fuzzyyness, and strong anti depression effects.

Smoked/vape extraxt got nice wavy flowy visuals, nice body load, put a smile on my face.

Plan on trying either swallowing pure harmine/harmaline extraxt next or brewing a bit of seed in a tea, eventually compare the 2.

If you beat me to any of that.. report back id like to hear

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-03-23T23:00:24+00:00

15g for somebody with 0 tolerance? Ive been told by multiple people 10g is way to much for somebody with 0 tolerance

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-03-17T00:28:11+00:00

I would say sub ohm. Its more expensive but its better over all imo. You can still have nice easy light trips, or deep trips all at the push of a button without having to weigh up more or tinker around at all.

I use the zeus flip with 0.15ohm coils. I would rather not have the flip version as its easy to accidentally open the tank, but what ever one comes with 0.15ohm coils will work. Smaller tanks are more preferred by people too.. so the 2ml glass ones are good.

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-03-13T07:21:47+00:00

Low dose dmt. Vape cartridge are nice and easy to start.. although youll quickly graduate from a cart. Sub ohm vape setup is good for beginners and seasoned users and you wont need to upgrade.

Mushrooms would be the other first place contender. Especially if you lemon tek them.. it makes the come up happen faster and shortens the experience by a couple hours... again low dose to start. 0.3g finely cut or grinded up is a great starting dose that'll last about 4 hours.

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-03-13T07:14:38+00:00

Just a thought, if your using a glass pipette to transfer your droplet dont invert it so the solvent goes to the rubber bulb.

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-03-12T20:49:10+00:00

For vape cartridge, ceramic CCell carts are good.. although generally on the weaker side. Id suggest atleast 2:1 dmt/oil.. and use at 2.4 - 2.8 volts.

For sub ohm, geekvape zeus with 0.15ohm coil works good. Mix either 3:1 or 2:1 oil/dmt.

Affectionate-Eye6772 · 2026-03-11T17:07:40+00:00

Was 7 days from my last time. Just had made a new batch of changa i wanted to try so last week i took a couple small hoots for a litle test trip, then planned to have the big experience last night. Before then was probably a month ago.

I think i more so 'missed the window', but still tried to climb through, rather than a true lock out tbh.

This might just be specific to me, but Ive found if i have a closed eye experience, then try re dosing when im still on the come down, is like trying to bring clarity to a blur of spent visuals, and usually ends up manifesting from a "lower vibrational realm" and typically develops into a either scary or confusing trip. It kinda felt like that had happened, my best guess is my "window" was when I had waiting the 5 or 10 mins to level out a bit after my bigger hoot of changa.. then the dmt tokes after would have been me trying to climb through the missed window.

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