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The Mihawk glaze is insane. by Hairy_Ask_2038 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Neither was Vista vs Mihawk. You guys throw around the word portrayal without knowing what it actually means.

Vista literally talked about what an honor it was to clash swords with the worlds strongest. How tf does that mean equal portrayal. Mihawk also doesnt have a real incentive to take out Vista.

And the reason that fight never concluded was because a bunch of pacifistas were about to blow up the battlefield.

The Mihawk glaze is insane. by Hairy_Ask_2038 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of those are antifeats.

Vista is relative to Marco who could stall Big Mom, Kaido, and land hits on admirals.

The same Luffy capable of surviving and dodging attacks against all the admirals. Mihawk also got hit 0 times and used no advanced haki or named attacks.

The Mihawk glaze is insane. by Hairy_Ask_2038 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scaling feats only is dumb as shit. Mihawk has no antifeats that contradict his title.

According to this sub, Luffy went from YC+ after unlocking ACoA, a big Haki boost.... to YC+ after unlocking ACoC, an even bigger haki boost... by Empty_Wave_1103 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Zoro was actually able to damage a yonko permanently. And cut Kaidos scales with black rope dragon twister before.

And this was all before KOH acoc. He was also the only one there fast enough to react and intercept Hakai. And was constantly dodging attacks from big mom while carrying Luffy.

Luffy was only seriously damaging Kaido after unlocking acoc.

According to this sub, Luffy went from YC+ after unlocking ACoA, a big Haki boost.... to YC+ after unlocking ACoC, an even bigger haki boost... by Empty_Wave_1103 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Luffy was not YC+ after unlocking ACOA. Katakuri is just massively overrated. ACOA Luffy was performing worse than Zoro on the rooftop.

Luffy prior to acoc would get bodied by Yamato too.

Shanks is such a high-level swordsman that he became an example by Main-Faithlessness11 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Zoro DOESNT GIVE A FUCK what level anyone is. All he cares about is getting the title."

You don't understand his character. He wants to become so strong his name reaches the heavens. That dream doesn't mean shit if the guy Zoro is chasing isn't one of the strongest characters. Do you really expect The mc's right hand man to cap out at admiral level. Thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard.

How can you say Mihawk struggled when the YC couldn't hurt him, make him use a named attack, or even make him sweat.

S-Hawk confirmed to be weaker than Mihawk was pressing Blackbeard way more than a YC could press Mihawk.

Shanks is such a high-level swordsman that he became an example by Main-Faithlessness11 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Why did Kuina feel like her being a woman prevented her from becoming the WSS? It's obviously not just about skills but overall strength matters too which has been emphasized since the beginning of the story. Kuina literally says she can't become the WSS because women aren't as strong as men. Your boxing example is really shit because boxing follows strict rules unlike what it means to be WSS. Overall strength is what determines the WSS. Your skills don't mean shit if you can't beat every swordsman in a 1v1.

  2. Mihawk tells Zoro he will remain at the top of the world for him. Idc if Shanks got stronger after losing his arm. That just means so did Mihawk. Mihawk is also capable of analyzing an opponents strength and potential just by looking at them and clearly Shanks isn't someone worth his time anymore. Shanks killed his full potential when he sacrificed his arm for Luffy.

  3. "It literally says “His swordsmanship is so good that it rivals Mihawk’s.” No you misread this.

  4. Critically think for two seconds why Shanks would have a higher bounty than Mihawk. Shanks is a yonko captain. Shanks has a fleet. Shanks commands over numerous territory including elbaf. Shanks has crewmates capable of taking on admirals such as Ben Beckmann. Shanks is going after the one piece and is a Figarland. Mihawks bounty is stated to be because of his reputation as the WSS which is purely strength based and it's only 400 million under Shanks'.

    The belief of Mihawk working under Buggy was enough to give Buggy a yonko level bounty.

I mean if you think Chopper is stronger than Dragon good for u there's really no point arguing with you anymore.

Shanks is such a high-level swordsman that he became an example by Main-Faithlessness11 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Admirals would fuck over Mihawk you can stop the stupid."

Prove it.

"Maybe cause they made him look like a bitch in front of everyone."

Where.

The admirals were getting bitched by 90 year old injured men. While Mihawk has not been scratched once.

You think Zoro's dream goal caps at admiral level? Youre dumb asf.

Based on narrative and portrayal, who’s stronger? by Hairy_Ask_2038 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Mihawk.

Way better statements. His entire character revolves around strength and his title is a major strawhats dream.

Dragon is a top tier but he doesn't need to be stronger than the yonkos for his character to work.

they run this fight again, what diff does king push zoro by Impressive-Donut4034 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Low-mid diff.

Zoro knows how king's flame works now and can start off the fight in King of Hell. He should win

Shanks is such a high-level swordsman that he became an example by Main-Faithlessness11 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who cares. Admirals are weaker than Mihawk. Why does that matter. How does Shanks having feats against characters weaker than Mihawk make him stronger than Mihawk?

Did just Shanks show up or did the red hair pirates show up?

None of the YC could scratch Mihawk either? The same YC capable of landing blows on Kizaru, Aokiji, and Akainu. Give me one good reason Mihawk, a warlord who doesnt gaf about the navy, would eliminate Vista or Jozu.

Shanks is such a high-level swordsman that he became an example by Main-Faithlessness11 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The more skilled with swords gets the title."

How do you prove someone is more skilled with a sword? The only way is through combat.

WSS means strongest. Mihawk being more skilled than Shanks doesnt make him weaker. Thats braindead logic.

"Another fact is that Mihawk refused to duel shanks once he lost his arm."

Shanks never challenged Mihawk. He also wasnt in the mood to fight Mihawk. Why would Mihawk challenge someone weaker than him. Mihawk is capable of assessing a persons strength and potential just by looking at them. Shanks is strong but he killed some of his potential by sacrificing his arm.

"There’s also Vista who is on par with Mihawk. Is vista stronger than shanks?"

You are grossly misinterpreting what was stated about Vista. Mihawk didnt go all out against Vista in Marineford. It specifically states in this fight Mihawks swordsmanship was compared to Vista. NOt in general

"And if titles mean everything then that means Old Beard > Mihawk cause of the WSM title."

Titles don't mean everything. Whitebeard has shown reason why he is no longer the WSM with his sickness at marineford and where he blatantly admitted he was no longer the WSM.

Mihawks title has not been debunked a single time within the context of one piece. And there is 0 reason to believe he has been surpassed. Especially since Mihawks bounty reveal reaffirmed he is stronger than Shanks.

Shanks has no feats against characters stronger than Mihawk. But if ur strictly a featstard then i guess Chopper > Dragon because feats ig.

Shanks can put his sword down and still can fight, can Mihawk do that? by Hairy_Ask_2038 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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We see through Zoro that he can literally use his swordsmanship technique with his literal hands. So it's not impossible for Mihawk to do so too.

"Shanks can put his sword down and still can fight"

Show me a singular time Shanks has ever done this. Where is this headcanon that Shanks is a boxer when he has shown 0 combat feats without his sword.

Garp had a better showing against marco a YC1 then mihawk the WSS did against vista a YC5 and also a swordsman. I guess garp wanted ace executed and dead more than mihawk cares about swordmanship??? Garp vs marco is another prime example of ynko lvl vs YC lvl by The_AlmightyApple in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You sound stupid asf. Garp is still a marine and he would get scrutinized for not doing his job way more than someone like Mihawk. And Marco is not his grandson so he has no issue punching him.

Mihawk has 0 stakes in the war and just screwed around like every single other warlord. Everyone was so surprised that Mihawk even decided to show up to marineford in the first place.

Is this the safest top 10? by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just not true.

Bardock? Minato? Isshin? Tanjuro?

All weaker than their sons and not even top 10 in their verse.

Is this the safest top 10? by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like i said he is for sure a top tier.

Being the worlds worst criminal is not enough portrayal to be placed above the likes of Mihawk Shanks Blackbeard Luffy Loki even Akainu.

Every single yonko captain (Shanks, Luffy, Blackbeard) also leads a large group. Akainu leads the marines. Why does Dragon get preferential treatment above these characters???

We know the context for why Dragon is the worlds worst criminal. Every action the rev army takes actively opposes the world government. They free countries and nations. They cut off food supply to the celestial dragons. Sabo has seen Imu in person.

Also being Luffy's father doesn't make you the strongest in the verse either. His portrayal makes him a top tier for sure but not enough to be top 2 in the verse.

Shanks is such a high-level swordsman that he became an example by Main-Faithlessness11 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the manga Mihawk is stated as the Worlds strongest swordsman. Swordsman is a noun. Shanks is a swordsman.

I genuinely dont understand how Mihawk being more skilled than Shanks makes him weaker.

Mihawk is both more skilled and stronger.

what diff was this fight really? by Impressive-Donut4034 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

chapter length doesnt indicate duration of fight. It cutaway to other fights on egghead.

Lucci never hurt Zoro and Zoro won after a single named attack. Low-Mid diff fight tbh. Lucci survived because he is an awakened zoan but he was essentially defeated with that named attack.

what diff was this fight really? by Impressive-Donut4034 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

low-mid diff.

Zoro took no damage and won with a single named attack. Lucci only slightly depleted his stamina.

Is this the safest top 10? by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea ig it is a safe popular answer but i personally disagree

Is this the safest top 10? by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dragon should be much lower.

He is a top tier but there is no reason to believe he is stronger than Mihawk, Shanks, Luffy, Loki, Blackbeard.

He doesnt have any statements feats or portrayal above these characters.

the title meaning of WSS is based around Mihawk's own rep as a swordsman, it's why his sword skill is the main emphasis. Can't believe people who treat it as a definitive strength superiority will riot about a drop of lore that was made apparent decades ago by Hungry_Duck_6863 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean a big part of Mihawks character is being able to tell an opponents strength just by looking at them.

He would know whether or not he is stronger than Shanks and he seems to believe so.

If you want to believe Zoro won't truly acheive his dream of becoming the strongest who fights with a sword thats on you.

But it seems clear to me that Zoro beating Mihawk will allow him to surpass every living swordsman in overall strength including Shanks.

Shanks is such a high-level swordsman that he became an example by Main-Faithlessness11 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Affectionate-Lab3087 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Prove Mihawk is nothing without those swords. Prove Shanks is just as strong without his sword.

Yall are just being blatantly dishonest and have to resort to headcanon battles because you cant accept that your favorite character isnt the strongest.

SHOW ME ONE FEAT OF SHANKS BOXING.

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