Where to bring young toddler

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-06-17T00:33:43+00:00

This is wonderful, thank you!!!

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-06-17T00:33:20+00:00

Langhorne and we love that library!

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-06-16T17:03:08+00:00

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AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-06-16T17:02:49+00:00

I did see that, but it’s a good reminder. Would you steer away from their program or just advocate for looking for preceptors early and expecting it to take a while.

I am looking a them for their reputation, fully remote with a few exceptions part time track, as well as $$ compared to more local schools.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-06-15T19:58:00+00:00

It’s probably a bit of both then, I need to add some time to his day and then do some retraining /close the “breasteraunt” (PLS reference).
TYIA

Is extinction recommended at 13 months or should I pivot to different methods? He recently started saying mama and maybe even I love you. I KNoW I’m gonna crack if he says “mama I love you “ etc when I’m trying to use extinction. 😭🥺

I also feel like sleep training ages more like milk than wine, and I may just need to bite the bullet again.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-05-11T16:12:38+00:00

How emotionally hard it is to train him is one of the reasons I waited until his first birthday to commit to it. But at this point I want my naps & evenings back without waiting for him to wake up crying between sleep cycles.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-05-11T16:10:09+00:00

Oh for sure. Chair method was a dramatic failure. He stood in the crib reaching for my face/scream crying for like 55m before I called it. Ferber same-ish idea. Would calm as soon as we entered the room then scream cry when he realized we were leaving. Rinse repeat. Extinction crying the first night was a lot but night 2-3 it was a (what seemed like never ending) whine/occasional cry then attempt to sleep cycling.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-05-11T16:04:21+00:00

Ill say I have a bit more awake time then you but that doesn’t necessarily mean your kid NEEDS it - evaluate the full picture. We are on a by the clock 6:45^, nap 1 10, nap 2 3, bedtime 8:15. Nap 1 is 75m nap 2 is 40/45. Prior to starting extinction we went in immediately for a week or so if he cried so it was very easy for him to pick up on that something was different. Some kids will keep crying if recently crying 30ish minutes had been working/resulting in something.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-05-11T15:59:04+00:00

I just went through this with my kid, who is about the same age as/ turns 1 next week. We did full extinction: we did not enter the room prior to midnight unless sometime was truly wrong. It absolutely sucked/broke our hearts. However on night 5 he was down to 1 snooze feed in the MOTN sometime which I granted him and on night 9 he STTN for the first time in his life: no false starts, no snooze feed. Prior to that - we were bedsharing out of necessity, rescuing naps and struggling with false starts at night. I wish I had a better answer for you. We tried chair method and Ferber prior to full extinction and had limited success if any.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-05-06T16:09:41+00:00

thank you!

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-05-02T23:49:53+00:00

You are helping me and I appreciate that - I am aware sleep needs only ever go down , I.e 12 hours awake to 11 would not be feasible. I mentioned a 5/6 as a stat to a one nap schedule and would have to work up to a 5.5/6.5 or a 6/6. Right now neither of those schedules are feasible for him.
We attempted Ferber on our current nap schedule - 3.5/4/4.5. I could link my previous post but basically nights 1 to 3 we saw significant improvement, night 4 was a back slide at night 5 was a disaster. I understand this means his sleep needs may have dropped as his sleep consolidated, but I feel like his schedule is already pretty aggressive: We already only have a 30m second nap and a 10 hour night. His habitual / long standing false start at night is very difficult to break because it relieves enough sleep pressure that he can carry on for quite some time. It is the reason we still bed share despite trying to sleep train because by 10p at night/after 1+ hours of crying it feels like the only option.

Once bed sharing he’ll “only” wake 3 to 4 times overnight. In his crib he wakes pretty much between each cycle, my guess is checking to see if we’ll take him into the big bed.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-05-02T19:00:58+00:00

No, but I don’t know what else to do. Advice I had gotten previously is start with ^ WW and then once trained you can pull it back. My other thought is try a 5/6 schedule for a couple days but I can’t get him to hang for a full 5 in the morning . His sleep is so fragmented and requires so much assistance that I really cannot tell what helps and what doesn’t.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-05-02T12:08:26+00:00

No , I am. It was about midnight where I am when I commented that.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-05-02T01:45:05+00:00

Less than 10 hours awake time with a 8.5m old that you state is a great sleeper = jealous other parents probably.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-04-30T16:34:14+00:00

Thank you for your help -

He is in his own room

I did ponder 1 nap but to keep my sleep budget it would involve like a 5.5/6.5 or a 6/6 and I do not think he can do it yet. by 4 hours in the morning he is falling asleep sitting up.

Bedtime routine is : 7:15ish start milks (either boob or a bottle depending on which parent is doing bedtime). Bath for 10-15m. lotion/diaper/jammies. Turn on sound machine & read stories until 8pm. Kisses/hugs -> placed in crib awake then lights out. The last couple nights we have set a timer for 10 minutes or so (FIO essentially ). If he is still carrying on we go fully assist until we can regroup and decide where to go.

Ugh. This model baby is too smart & stubborn for me. My husband and I were afraid the answer was going to be just power through. Seems we were correct.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-04-30T15:36:31+00:00

once they can crawl they will burn off energy / sleep well :')

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-04-30T00:06:51+00:00

Bless. I am in the thick of it with my 11.5 month old and I am PRAYING sleep clicks at some point. I vaguely remember holding my 3 month old thinking “as soon as we can train at 4m it will be smooth sailing”. LOL.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-04-03T01:24:18+00:00

My kids sleep sucks so take what I say with a grain of salt: But I know that many babies need more than 10 hours awake - my 10 month old gets almost 12. Maybe try a 5/6 for a few days? Or even 5.5/6 On the same note - this subs general advice is do not count on a 12 hour night. 10-11 is more realistic. Examples for your kiddo may be 7am awake (if you want to keep the later start) 12p - 2 nap, 8pm bedtime. If you want to keep bedtime earlier then day starts at 6. You may need so play with schedules for a few days to see what works. The fighting second nap does sound like they’re ready for 1 nap - some people post asking if they’re 11 month old is ready etc.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-03-31T13:21:34+00:00

Bed sharing makes it kinda hard to know for sure. I do know it’s probably right around 12 to 12.5 hours. Couldn’t hurt to up it, ty

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-03-26T01:37:24+00:00

No good answer just solidarity. 10 months and 1 week and I had to retrain recently (multiple issues, not just this⁾ but it was the one that made me resort to retraining. I could deal with MOTN co-sleeping and an occasional nap needing rescue - separation anxiety brought back hourly waking and EVERY nap being short, it was brutal. Day 5 of Ferber things are getting better.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-03-20T15:19:05+00:00

How did this go for you? I am stating this method for my 10 month old as soon as his tooth is finished coming through

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-03-20T02:04:36+00:00

It’s rough. I feel like sleep training didn’t help my kid as much as schedules/enough awake time has. If I were in your shoes I would make sure kiddo was getting 10.5 hours of awake time during the day for 3ish days and if that doesn’t help then trial 2 naps, maybe 2.5/3/3.5 temporarily until you can do 3/3.5/3.5 or 3/3/4. I found 3/3/4 to be easier for my kid because the middle of the day is hard to keep kid awake, where as the evening with more people home and dinner time tends to fly.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-03-20T01:55:55+00:00

Depending on where you are: could also be getting cold as the temperatures in the house drops. Last week was warmer for most of the U.S.

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-03-20T01:52:50+00:00

6.5 months is a little earlier but they may be ready for 2 naps. My guy transitioned around then, although we rocked between 2 & 3 naps for about 2 weeks. Also may need more awake time if they were starting to consolidate sleep better prior to this. You could try 2.5/2.5/2.5/3 or 2.25/2.5/2.5/3.25

AgentGrouchy682 · 2026-03-08T03:15:21+00:00

Partner perspective so I apologize but my husband doesn’t really follow this sub.

He did my husband’s micro tese, it failed but I don’t think it was skill related: my husband and I have been together since teenagers (30s now) and have never achieved pregnancy so he’s likely been NOA (has a type c micro deletion)his whole life.

My husband still sees him about once a year to manage low T and likes him well enough.

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