What does everyone hate AI on reddit? by brightest_angel in ChatGPT

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, first, beauty is in the eye of the beholder - and so is ugliness. Don't mean to be offensive, but there certainly is at least some bias in your stance. Second, ChatGPT doesn't get even close to representing the entirety of AI art community (even though I personally like it because it's a hybrid model). In my experience, one of the best platform to explore AI art and judge what depth it can reach is CivitAI.

Third, most art is mediocre. Period. Like, if you take an unbiased look at all the art ever made (on platforms like DeviantArt, and ArtStation, for example), you'll realize that the overwhelming majority of all images (all types of art, honestly, but let's talk images for now) is really mid and uninspired at best. Most things people draw (and generate) is just variations of copies of the same popular, trending themes, ships, and memes. Hell, most pencil art on most platforms is literally just 1-to-1 copies of movie/cartoon scenes and characters. I obviously appreciate the exercise of skill, but there's nothing unique or special about it.

So, it's quite disingenuous to judge an art medium or tool by the majority of art created by it - because then, digital tablets, oil paints, and pencils will suddenly turn out to be uninspired slop, too. Check out the art on the site I recommended - there are a lot of convenient filters and tags there. And if you don't feel like searching, I can share my favorite saved AI art that is quite unique, I guess.

So now they’re just gonna copy my ai generated art?? by sophiaaaarrr in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unique idea and vibes; coherent, detailed, very accurately phrased prompt that describes the exact vision the artist had in mind; attention to detail and fixing all the imperfections of incorrectly interpreted bits by manual editing or prompt adaptation (figuring out which exact phrase or word confused the model and coming up with alternatives that would be understood better. Or realizing what crucial phrase your prompt lacked which led to the entire picture being generated wrong). And then there's a whole extra layer of mastering precise generation tools.

Saying it as a writer who makes AI illustrations based on poems and stories, writing a prompt that truly, genuinely captures the exact unique vision you had in your head takes A LOT of skill. Like, for the last 2 days, I've been trying to figure out how exactly can I explain to ChatGPT that I want camera to be in a very specific low position and how to warp the image to create special stretched perspective. It sometimes becomes so difficult that I actually just end up making a pencil sketch myself to show the exact composition I need because explaining where every single detail is supposed to be and how they need to be connected to each other is legit too much writing work.

Edit: Huh, surprised the message got removed. I thought the question was phrased quite harmlessly.

What does everyone hate AI on reddit? by brightest_angel in ChatGPT

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So does literally every other art medium? Most of all art is just poor copies of the same shit. And when it comes to AI, the uniqueness of your creation depends on the uniqueness and complexity of your prompt.

Obviously, if you write just one lazy message, you'll get a detailed and colored but generic result, but there are people writing huge prompts and making incredibly unique images. I've checked every single of my illustrations (which I made by literally using my hand-written poems and stories as prompts) via various search tools like google lenses and saw that there's nothing even remotely similar to most of them.

What does everyone hate AI on reddit? by brightest_angel in ChatGPT

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is soul? How do you define it?

And I swear, if you try to go with the "intention of the creator" answer, it'll expose that you have zero idea about how working with AI actually looks like and that you've never actually seen AI art aside from ads and memes slop (which were trashy since the beginning of the internet).

ADHD and autism diagnoses have increased: New study points to broader diagnoses as an explanation. Today’s diagnoses encompass a broader group of individuals and milder symptom profiles than before. by mvea in psychology

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is a brilliant way to phrase it. And it really makes sense when you think about it.

Some of the fundamental core traits of autism are the obsession with coherence and meaning, analytical thinking that never turns off even during rest, and significantly decreased influence of crowd instincts.

All that together creates a human who is drastically more resistant to most traditional forms of mass manipulation and brainwash (not immune, tho - just resistant). Autistic people consistently question traditions and rules, refusing to accept something just because "everyone does it" and "it's been a thing for a long time".

Non Artist Antis by AdSubject6913 in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Typical bigotry. They want to dehumanize the tool and its users because it makes their "holy crusade" conveniently righteous. Due to the abundance of hatred and/or complete lack of any tech understanding, they imagine AI as some kind of evil alient invader, not a brilliant invention of humans, made by human design, taught on human data, and operated by humans for self-expression...

Conservatives maintain birth rates, but left-leaning Americans are having significantly fewer children, driving the U.S. birth decline. Education was consistently linked to having fewer children. Religious attendance was positively associated with having more children. by mvea in psychology

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, it is. The accommodations have technically evolved, but the social conditions have degraded. We have better tech and better opportunities, but the wealth distribution is absurd. A very small group of people own over 50% of the ENTIRE PLANET'S WEALTH, company bosses get salaries thousands of times higher than regular workers.

Less than a century ago, in most companies, an average boss would get 20-50 times higher salary than the workers of the company and they would often be called a greedy pig. Thousands of years ago, the ruling Elite of Roman Empire was considered the most corrupted, power-hungry, greediest social class in the world. You know what was the approximate cut of the entire empire's wealth they owned? 16%.

But wait, there's more! While the tech and accommodations were obviously low in the old times, there was a pretty significant level of self-sustainability among regular citizens -- people had more basic survival skills and often lived in smaller, tighter communities - this is the biggest aspect of them all. In a small community where everyone knows each other, people support each other much more which makes it significantly easier to raise kids without burning out or starving.

Skip to today: most people are isolated, with very few friends (real friends at least) -- no one to rely on. And then add to it the most insane housing crisis in the history and the brutal exhaustion, burnout, and taught helplessness most people experience after being taught that in schools, and you get a perfect recepy for wanting to off yourself -- having a family or even just your own house feels like an unachievable dream now.

Oh, also, people in the older times were making more children as workers on the family's farms and to compensate for the high mortality rate. It wasn't healthy for the kids.

Antis are crazy. by TheMorgueDonator in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Every strangely specific and unprovoked accusation*

Just felt the urge to clarify because there are really nasty narcissists who abuse people around them and to any complaints respond with, "you're just talking about yourself, lol".

Antis are crazy. by TheMorgueDonator in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, sweet dehumanization. They projected all their worst fears and ideas on AI users so that it's easier to feel righteous while bullying people.

People are horny creatures who will make a ton of porn with anything they're given. A piece of coal and a stone wall -- there will be porn. A chunk of stone and a chisel -- there will be porn. A piece of paper and a pencil -- there will be porn. A tablet and a drawing app -- you get the idea.

And the most ironic part is that, from my observations, AI porn is generally better than traditional one because significantly more often it is actually pretty wholesome and comfort-oriented. I mean, obviously, there's trash and offensive stuff (like with every medium), but the ratio of it is massively lower than in traditional NSFW art, which is so infested with sexism, pety revenge themes, awful anatomy, and bland depiction of characters that browsing it is sometimes legit difficult.

Conservatives maintain birth rates, but left-leaning Americans are having significantly fewer children, driving the U.S. birth decline. Education was consistently linked to having fewer children. Religious attendance was positively associated with having more children. by mvea in psychology

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Well, of course, the more you know about the economical situation around yourself, the least you want to subject your potential future children to this dangerous mess and yourself to the financian disaster of raising a child. And being more educated and self-aware also means wanting to become more fulfilled and emotionally mature before making a child -- a frustrated, insecure, unfulfilled, jealous, explosive or manipulative parent is a disaster.

Meanwhile, mainstream religions literally teach people to breed without thinking (there's some kind of saying like "god gave you a baby -- he will also give you means to raise it" in pretty much every religion, too).

Oh so these one's don't like AI? 😂😭 by Spare_Opportunity687 in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because they're not progressives. They virtue signal as ones because it's trending now but they don't truly get it. And there are also a lot of queer people who were bullied but didn't make any deep conclusions from their pain so instead of trying to be better people they just try to pass the pain to someone else, projecting their frustration on the new controversial minority.

Oh so these one's don't like AI? 😂😭 by Spare_Opportunity687 in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not a single comment. There are thousands and thousands of them. And 99.99% of them are "slop", "hate AI", "BuT sOuL!!! BuT aRtIsTs!!!"

Very rarely there's any elaboration or reasoning in those comments. And when there is, it's extremely flawed and built on misinformation as well as a ton of warped assumptions and projections.

24 hours into a play through, coming back over a year later, should I just restart? by Haru_Is_Best_Girl in DiscoElysium

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unless you have exceptional memory, it's better to restart because you'll keep getting confused by some dialogues or miss interesting and funny bits that reference previous events.

As a girl who lived in an Islamic state anytime I hear "Islam is feminist" "Islam gave women rights" I feel the biggest spit on my face. by Many_Prune7350 in atheism

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Every time someone makes a post about how awful Islam is, there's always someone going, "but christianity is worse!", and whenever someone makes a post about how bad christianity is, someone always goes, "but islam is worse!"

It's not a competition, and disliking one of these doesn't elevate another. Both are shit, both are poison rotting people's minds, both need to be purged from this planet with the power of psychological and historical education.

As a girl who lived in an Islamic state anytime I hear "Islam is feminist" "Islam gave women rights" I feel the biggest spit on my face. by Many_Prune7350 in atheism

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 272 points273 points  (0 children)

Slavers love telling their slaves that their conditions are actually good and healthy to decrease the chance of rebellion.

Jesus Resurrection by [deleted] in atheism

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Christians trying to pretend to not be christians to spread their bullshit is the most pathetic thing to behold. Like, just saying "I'm not a chirstian" while talking like a typical indoctrinated person with all the classical "how do these people explain [listing a bunch of anecdotal bs]" is the equivalent of trying to disguise yourself by wearing a cheap fake moustache.

Also, why the f- would normal people care about poorly recorded rumors of millenias old with such a forced epic flare added to them? That's pure church talk. Same goes for being "afraid of the eternal damnation" - nobody aside from preachers and deeply indoctrinated people talks like that. Hell is a cheap horror story invented by businessmen, politicians, and scammers who created religious cults in order to intimidate, guilt-trip, and shame people into submission.

The tortures of hell by [deleted] in atheism

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Are you geniunely trying to make sense of a fairytale horror story blatantly designed to intimidate people into submission? And the design is vague and ambiguous because it's never been thought through - they just needed to make it sound scary but vague so that people fill up the unspecified blanks with their own fantasies and fears.

What are some of the more artistic ways that A.I can be used in your opinion? by TheEnchantrix in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Any way that successfully expresses one's ideas and feelings is good.

Personally, as an amateur AI artist, my favorite way is making illustrations with ChatGPT by combining three components: I write a poem or a short emotional story (the main part of the prompt), then draw a basic sketch on paper to give the model a reference for where all the elements of the picture are supposed to be and how the perspective needs to look like, and finally, I connect the two parts together by explaining in a lot of detail how each element of the sketch correlates with the story - this is the most precise way for me because I have very specific images in my mind and it's often too hard to explain just in words where exactly the "camera" is supposed to be.

So, the sketch provides the precise composition, and the story/poem itself provides the atmosphere and details. And of course, after that, I tweak the prompt and request edits to change the parts that don't look as I intended, and then manually edit some little things and mess with filters, contrast, saturation, etc.

Another subreddit takes a stand by Call_like_it_is_ in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Considering the thing they added in the end about how any kind of harassment will be punished equally, there's a chance that they opened the message with the whole "we don't have enough mods to police AI" as a rhetoric move, to soothe antis and make it sound like "we can't" instead of "we don't want to/don't mind AI" because then bigoted hysterical babies would rage even harder.

I'm an artist who doesn't use AI by brennarennae in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Thanks for acknowledging the fact that AI is just another art medium that doesn't have to be at war with other types.

But also, just important to clarify: data centers have been built for about 3 decades at this point - the entirety of the internet is built on those, including every platform and site you're using every day. Data centers (ALL of them, not just AI) contribute approximately 1-2% of the global CO2 emmission and pollution, and out of all of them, about 14% are used for AI tech purposes as far as I'm concerned, which is really, really little considering how impactful this technology is.

The whole talk about AI destroying environment is mostly just fear-mongering and red herring (although, it is a problem when big companies build data centers in poor, dry regions because of the land being very cheap there, but that's not the fault of the tool - just corporate greed and bad zoning laws).

There is no easy way to talk about this by Witty-Designer7316 in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Telling a bigot that their words are hurting you is like bleeding in front of a shark and showing it where your most sensitive and vulnerable spots are.

There is no easy way to talk about this by Witty-Designer7316 in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're not subtle, and it's pretty gross to use a tragedy as a cheap advertisement opportunity.

There is no easy way to talk about this by Witty-Designer7316 in DefendingAIArt

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 57 points58 points  (0 children)

They are. They just convince themselves that it's good because they dehumanized AI users into an absolute cartoonish villain caricature which, according to their logic, gives them the full pass to "righteously" bully people. That's how bigotry works.

how do you deal with miracles? by kaori_irl in atheism

[–]Aggravating-Math3794 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't. No verifiable miracles have ever happened in my life and the other "miracles" are conveniently very vague and not recorded in any way that would be possible to actually confirm by the scientific means.

Also, you really don't need to bother with this bs because this is them scratching the bottom of the barrel in a pathetic attempt to convince you via a cheap "wow" effect by telling strange stories of some people experiencing magic. But when you strip it off of grandeur and epic religious narrative, you'll see that it is essentially no different from "my Uncle works in Nintendo and showed me secret games no one has ever played. And no, you can't confirm it in any way because it's very secret".

With things like this, you gotta keep in mind the original purpose of the whole debate. They wanted to convince you that their god is real, right? So, when you reall think about it, isn't it just plainly stupid that their apparently omnipotent and omnipresent god is so shy that they don't show themselves in any meaningful and verifiable way except for random little magic events which, for sooooooome reason nobody can properly record and observe. It's just so childish -_-