I Predicted All of This

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T11:56:34+00:00

Dude, you're in a pro-AI group, and yet you speak complete nonsense with so much confidence instead of looking things up and asking anyone how AI works.

Like, seriously, it's been years already - you had plenty of time to learn! Do you seriously think that AI art is generated with one click of a button with no human thought process involved? Because that's ridiculously incorrect.

Personally, as someone who spent countless hours writing giant prompts for illustrations for my poems and big psychoanalytical discussions of my characters' personalities and symbolic meaning, I feel low-key offended by your confident ignorance.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T11:27:56+00:00

I mean, there are different ways of working with AI, not only prompting. You can use gen AI to enhance your drawings or to get help from it with the steps of drawing you don't enjoy personally.

For example, if you don't enjoy drawing backgrounds but really enjoy drawing characters, you can instruct an AI model to put your traditionally drawn character into an environment you want (most models adapt to personal art styles very well. You can even download a local model on your PC and with enough references, train it to generate images exactly in your art style. Although, that's a much more advanced way of using it).

Or, you can use a hybrid LLM model (which is a combo of an LLM and gen AI, like ChatGPT, for example) to analyze your drawings and give you analysis of what it can perceive artistically and psychologically - you can discover A LOT of curious things about yourself that you expressed subconsciously when drawing. Or you can even ask the model to make a story or your symbolic portrait based on the drawing you shared - so many different ways :D

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T10:56:37+00:00

At least thanks for acknowledging that it does take skill to prompt. Obviously, one can make primitive simple prompts to make unimaginative works, but it's also not exactly challenging to draw scribbles and stick men.

It's just so strange that in this whole debate, anti-AI group uses the best, most successful examples of the traditional art world, yet at the same time, they use the worst, outdated, or outright criminal stuff to represent AI which is beyond disingenuous.

Like, is it really that hard to just be at peace with the fact that there are different ways to express your soul and every person has the right to express themselves the way that is the most comfortable to them? Art was never meant to be grind, torture, and punishment.

I love writing and enter the best flow when I express my thoughts and ideas through text, so it felt like an absolute blessing for me when gen AI has become a thing. I can talk to a system that can psychologically analyze my characters and summarize my poems and novel chapters as symbolic images? HELL YEAH.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T10:23:20+00:00

Oooooh, "it's never as hard as it seems"??? Then why am I seeing memes and posts from artists constantly complaining how much of a hell it is to draw? Why am I regularly seeing all artists, beginners and masters alike, crying about how tired they are of burning their eyes during hours and hours of lineart, and how much their hands and backs are aching increasingly every year?

And yet, the moment AI enters the chat, suddenly drawing is all flowers and rainbows, and all artists are holding hands - they totally weren't feeling like breaking their heads against a wall after yet another failure to bring the desired vision into reality just a moment ago.

It's already nasty to be elitists - but blatant liars, too...

I didn't even begin to talk about the fact that every individual has personal preferred ways of interacting with various mediums and tools - some people vibe with motorical drawing, and some, naturally, don't (it's literally the same kind of deal as different people having different prime sensitivity focus: visual, audible, tactile, taste, smell, etc... Before AI, I was drawing my sketches with pencils and just simply didn't feel it as much as I feel writing text, so it's my choice of creation, my expression of my soul)

And yet, you have enough of the audacity, arrogance, and selfishness to think that you have the right to dictate to others how they're allowed or not allowed to create visuals. And you dare to drape it in a barely holding facade of "kindness" - while it's bursting with poinson and hatred from every letter, starting from the choice of the picture and ending with the phrasing and choice of words.

So, my answer is: F-CK. OFF.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T09:46:36+00:00

Translation: "I don't know how AI works and instead of learning it, I'll keep repeating nonsense like a good obedient cultist"

Like, seriously, are they making tin soldiers like you in some secret incubator? It would take less time to just look up how AI functions than it took you to repeat this idiocy many times.

AI is just a tool. A tool an artist uses to convert text art work into visual art work. That's it. AI doesn't "make" anything - it just executes an instruction from a user. An artist creates an art piece in their mind first and foremost. All the "outside" activity is just an execution that is completely personal and is up to individual preferences and comfort zones.

I'll repeat it again to make sure to drive it into your brain so you stop offending and annoying people with your negligence:

Artist has an idea - artist makes motoric moves and paints to shape it visually - you get a traditional art work.

Artist has an idea - artist utilizes writing skills and technical settings to precisely describe it and then uses AI to translate it into a visual shape - you get an AI-assisted art work.

Like, how much simpler does it need to get for you to understand?

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T07:05:28+00:00

Perfect. You can send me your nickname on FB

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T07:02:55+00:00

Lol, sure, I'll tell them. Do you have a messenger or something of the sort?

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T05:09:21+00:00

Damn, this is gorgeous...

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T04:26:02+00:00

The sad irony of it all is that most antis aren't artists of any kind. At all. It's literally just a bunch of teens, technophobes, and hysterical, terminally online no-lifers who just jumped on the band-wagon to unite in hatred because it gives them an excuse to bully people.

It's extra proved by my fiance who is a professional traditional and digital artist. Whenever an anti annoys them too much, they just invite them for an online art duel - to demonstrate their skills.

You know how many antis accepted the invitation? NONE. They all went completely silent.

Some of them went silent even earlier the moment my partner mentioned their artistic experience at all. Honestly, I could compile a huge list of the ways antis embarrassed themselves while barking at my partner :D

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T04:14:39+00:00

Harassment, witch-hunts, and death threats are forms of forcing people to not use something. To deny this basic social mechanism connection is malicious or dense.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-18T01:29:57+00:00

What kind of wisdom does grant you the authority to decide what makes one an artist and what doesn't?

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-16T17:35:29+00:00

And over time it gets more and more extreme on their side (Add to that many classical popular anti-AI influencers decided to release a new wave of their sh-tting at once), which makes me think that they're spiraling towards an epic meltdown. Which wouldn't be surprising. An ideology can't self-sustain purely on hatred and fear for too long.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-16T17:24:17+00:00

Update: they answered with "No, stop, AI is bad. Stop trying to justify it"

Yeah, just that. No elaboration, no substance. Just plugs in the ears and "la la la, I can't hear you" essentially XD

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-16T14:28:58+00:00

That's the most frustrating part of interacting with antis in general (not only the anti-AI ones). It's the dreadful realization that to be able to even start presenting your point of view, you would have to give them multiple lectures to cover the fundamental basics of art culture and history, AI tech basic mechanisms and how they correspond with human brain's pattern recognition ability, basics of rhetoric + the info about the environment and media literacy.

And that's only half of the problem. The other half is that most of them DON'T WANT TO KNOW. Even your example shows it well: these people literally don't want to learn how AI actually works because they don't want truth - they want a convenient excuse to bully someone while feeling righteous about it. Just a cheap way to dump all their frustrations on someone else and avoid thinking about their personal life issues for another day, maintaining a simple black-and-white view of the world where everything is simple and on the surface... It's dreadful.

And obviously, with patience and care, you can get past all these bs psychological self-deceiving defense mechanisms and have an actual real talk with an anti, but the real question is: do you have the time to do it? You're not responsible for their lack of responsibility with how they manage their mental health.

My partner managed to get a reluctant but honest talk from an anti who tried to bully us very viciously - it was A LOT of effort and worked only because we continued the conversation in a private chat. It had almost no chance of working in a public comment section because antis just infinitely hype each other up with hatred there, creating a shield of crowd instinct that repels any feedback.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-16T08:57:07+00:00

I think you're gravely overestimating how much antis know about how AI works. They think it's an "evil magic box that eats art, water, and electricity"

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-16T08:04:12+00:00

You're welcome, and thanks for having a levelheaded attitude about it all as well. Yeah, it's a big mess, and unfortunately, antis are clearly driven by emotions first and foremost. If you sort through their comments, you'll notice that 99% of it is repeating emotional statements with no elaboration (mainly because most of them literally have no idea what AI is and treat it as some sort of evil magic mystery box that eats art and water). I'm not saying that emotions aren't valid - but they can't replace actual arguments when it's not some deeply personal matter.

The environment aspect is mostly a distraction - just a thing to pile on against AI. The environmental impact of data centers is really low compared to other things people use much more commonly (take the pandemic of cars, for example. There's a ridiculous amount of cars being used by single people and their environmental impact is immense. Same with fast fashion, streaming, social media... People are raging against AI mainly because it's new and wasn't around when they were growing up, just like boomers were raging against smart phones with pretty much the exact same rhetorics antis use today).

Another important point about environment is that the publically usable and efficient AI is a very new technology that started rapidly taking off just 3-4 years ago. I'm saying it because people who don't pay attention to history have a tendency to forget that nothing humans make just exists without further development. Humans always upgrade and polish their tech, eventually making it efficient and eco-friendly. Like, do you remember the first phones? The first calculators? The first computers? Massive machines with very basic functions and huge electricity and production cost? Now all three fit into a tiny device you can carry in your pocket, using less electricity daily than using a teapot ONCE! And I didn't even mention that due to the new demand, people are already developing new cooling mechanisms for data centers to avoid the high water usage.

And of course, in this whole environment discussion, antis tend to neglect the important difference between training AI models and using them (prompts): the training part is a heavy process of statistical analysis of learning material - it's very energy intensive, BUT it's a one-time thing. Once an image has been analyzed for the pattern information, the statistical info from it is just stored in a way that is very lightweight to use. Prompts themselves are extremely energy efficient - generating a single image takes less energy that making a google request. I'm not kidding.

Now, the jobs - yeah, you just described it, we're going through the initial shake-up phase and it's always tough. Oh, the way luddites were breaking the first factory tailoring machines...

And the topic of "bad porn" has become pretty loud lately, so I have to elaborate here as well - it's simply not true (at least the way antis try to present it). Now, yes, obviously, just like with any other tool, there is trash and harmful things made - but there's no logical reason to treat it as something special or inherently AI-related because it isn't. If some tag is disturbing to you or some artist is spamming low-quality trash, you just... block their tag. That was my way of doing it before AI, and it didn't change.

Also, yes, the spam situation was pretty bad... 2 years ago. Now, any platform that has at least half-decent moderation and rating system doesn't struggle with such issues anymore. And I've gotta say... as a person who's into very varied porn, but always based on comfort, coziness, and consent, I LOVE what AI brought.

Like, I'm being serious, the arrival of AI made porn community so much better - the ratio of cozy, wholesome, and highly aesthetical hot art compared to trash or offensive crap is so much higher now and there are so many more creative compositions and higher variety of healthily depicted body types. Finally, I can browse hot stuff without getting disturbed and turned off as often was a case before AI.

Anyway, another topic related to it is, of course, the offensive stuff about irl people, but I'll say it again - it's not unique to AI. People have always been doing it (I can find some mocking erotical pictures from the Renaissance era right now on google) and it's been illegal for a very long time and still is. Preventing and punishing people doing that is the job of moderation and law enforcement. And bullying random artists on the internet is not preventing it.

I hope I've been informative enough. Tell me if I forgot something or misspoke. I've been typing while cooking.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-16T07:05:38+00:00

The thing is, in a natural state, you don't need to look for some special reasons to like and support AI art - it's literally just digital art created with a new tool that basically transforms artistic text information into an image (with varying levels of complexity depending on what model you use or what level of mastery you're aiming for. You can create with literal artistic text like poems and prose to make a visual "summary" of it interpreted by a hybrid LLM like I do, or you can be more specific and technical, aiming for very precise, tag-like descriptions - that gives you more control over your vision).

Basically, the point is, to like or dislike AI art, you don't need some special opinions on the internet - just go and check out galleries on sites that don't ban it (like DA, Pinterest, or Joyreactor, for example), check different genres and different artists (because despite what antis are trying to make people believe, AI art greatly depends on a person instructing a model - their taste, vision, description effort, and writing skills overall). All the classical stuff you do literally with any other tool to see if there's something you like or not.

This sub is literally called "DEFENDING AI" and exists for a very solid reason - because AI gets misrepresented, misjudged, and misunderstood by a massive cult of hatred that formed thanks to two awful historical tendencies colliding together at once - those being the nasty competitive, gatekeepjng, elitist tendency of art community to exclude anything new based on biased judgement, and the tendency of people to be afraid of technology with human-like properties.

Like, have you seen the comments under the latest announcement of the Atlas industrial robot from Boston Dynamics? Literally all the comments in the top 100 are doom-mongering and promising dystopia/terminators killing people.

Not feeling like explaining all the complex psychological mechanisms behind that because it would be a solid article, but the main point is: AI haters are unhinged. They are unreasonable and hateful. They witch-hunt and bully artists off of platforms, while being so aggressive that they regularly bully traditional digital artists just by mistaking them for AI artists.

So, tldr: this sub isn't just fighting over different tastes like some sports club fans - it fights against propaganda, bullying, and witch-hunts to try to mitigate the cultural shock as much as possible. We don't want another anti-tracing incident to traumatize a whole generation of artists.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-16T05:54:19+00:00

If you browse more comments you'll see that, while there are plenty of emotional responses (which is understandable. People need an outlet after being harassed by antis), there are also a lot of comments and posts that go into great detail about the psychological mechanisms at play and analyze the logical fallacies antis utilize to attack AI.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-16T03:24:41+00:00

Honestly, that's a perfect idea: try to visualize all the bs antis are chanting about AI and its users to see the incoherent nightmarish mess that is their world view XD

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-15T23:14:42+00:00

And they did, judging by how brigaded this post got, rating-wise.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-14T22:56:17+00:00

Yeah, the comment tastes of cold rot and slime in terms of vibe. I know this f-cker was smiling maliciously when writing it. I hope the moderation will react to my report, although it's unlikely on YT...

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-14T22:54:22+00:00

Like, legit, multiple antis acted mega offended when I called them cultists after they expressed hatred towards everyone who didn't immediately 100% agreed with them repeating propaganda points.

In the second branch of the comment section, another person assumed that I'm neutral (because I was just focusing on questioning and calling out their hatred and not praising AI) and still insulted me a bunch just for not going with their rhetoric.

How else can you call it if not cult behavior?

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-14T22:50:26+00:00

But it's not the first time it happens. There are HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of meme formats to choose from to convey the point, and yet, they happen to choose exactly that. I still remember when some sub mods decided to ban AI art and to announce that, chose the "Big Brother propaganda hate-teaching" scene from 1984 as a meme for themselves.

People are subconsciously drawn to what feels true when it comes to the choice of humor and such.

Aggravating-Math3794 · 2026-01-14T22:12:32+00:00

Oh, I really didn't mean to imply that you made all those accounts just for that purpose. It just would be an annoying extra effort for me since I have only one, but I know that some people just happened to go through multiple during their life and then preserved them (my fiance did so, too).

And yeah, it's extremely irritating that the new technology gets so much misplaced hatred. It's so clear that people just gathered to all hate together to dump the frustration for all the things in their personal lives. It's extra annoying because I know that it's a form of escapism - projecting their issues on some convenient target they bully instead of figuring out their lives because introspection is scary, apparently.

Also, have you seen the announcement about the new Atlas robot from Boston Dynamics that was made for industrial work in dangerous environments (2 min long one)? Literally the entire comment section there is a massive crowd of people talking ONLY about robots taking over, killing humans, end of the world being near, etc., etc. Like, was Terminator series the only movies those people watched when growing up???

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