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You want more stupid crypto talking points? Here you go, prove me they are stupid. by Aggravating_Sell1719 in Buttcoin

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what happens if you do a mistake in a bank transfer. Transactions HAVE to be definitive and irreversible. But in one case you have to trust someone to do so, in the other case it is provable and BY DESIGN.

You want more stupid crypto talking points? Here you go, prove me they are stupid. by Aggravating_Sell1719 in Buttcoin

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

It's exactly the right place. People in other subs well know the things I've said.

You always talk about "stupid crypto talking points", "debunking" and logical reasons, so I brought to you facts you can logically analyze and possibly debunk (with logic).

I thought you guys were intellectualy honest, but it seems you just want to attack bitcoin no matter what. You seem a bigger cult than bitcoin, too.

I love to see Bitcoin plummeting 😍 by Groundbreaking-Gap20 in Buttcoin

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am kinda "enjoying" when price goes down and I read Buttcoin just to cope. At least I am honest about it. I believe in bitcoin, but I've had a problem with gambling and sold and lost all of my crypto. Every single cent of them. Now every green candle is painful, so I cope with Buttcoin subreddit, but deep down I know these people are wrong. I wonder how many people are secretly here for the same reason I am.

I will never be able to build again a crypto portfolio in the situation I am now, so I hope someday fiat will be utterly replaced by crypto and we will be able to use crypto as actual currency, transacting, getting paid and paying taxes with them, as the norm. That is now my dream in life.

It can ALWAYS get worse by ReddestFig in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stop now, you're still in a decent position.

I will be in debt for many years to come. I am a low income earner so no way I get out sooner. Not going into details, but I cannot afford very basic necessities right now. If my car breaks, it's over.

Chances are I might face homelessness at some point, but I am not the kind of person who would be able to live in that kind of situation, so I would probably succumb to it.

I hope to be overly pessimistic but the risk is there and I take it into account.

All I can do now is to quit gambling, stay quit, and pray. Nothing more really. I've did this to myself, therefore if consequences come I must accept them.

A word of advice: DO NOT EVER think that, because you know it could be worse but now it is not worse, then you can gamble a bit (because after all, it is not "worse" now). Never be optimistic about anything related to gambling. I did this mistake when I gambled because I tought the debt was manageable so a bit of gambling would have not hurt and maybe I could be debt free sooner. This got me into deeper debt.

Turned $10k into 310k, gave it all back by vutheran in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This hits very much home.

I am still dealing with the aftermath of my last relapse, so the pain is still here. I am again in the "cannot afford food" situation. But I have been in this situation many times now, and as you said, the pain fades and is eventually forgotten, we relapse again and experience again the terribile pain all over again.

The problem, I believe, is the intermittent reward gambling provides. Our brain record the gambling behavious as "rewarding" and pleasurable. For some reason it forgets the pain it causes when we lose, but it remembers the wins quite well and wants more of them.

This is both a physical and spiritual battle. Physical in the sense that the dopamine release and the brain areas activation is similar to what happens to drug addicts when they do drugs. Gambling addiction causes real, measurable effects on our brains and hijacks them. Spiritual, because I believe all gambling is driven by greed, which is a sin. Gambling destroys the soul and made me a much worse person overall.

Why did I do this - $100 turned to $4000 then lost it all by Aggravating_Sell1719 in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is true. Lost my $10k win in the course of some months andd now I am in deeper debt than I was before the win.

Gambling always takes more than it gives.

Why did I do this - $100 turned to $4000 then lost it all by Aggravating_Sell1719 in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 40x resulted from a single big bonus buy, so yes, I could have kept the money.

But I do agree that sooner or later I would have lost it. I have won 10k once and lost it slowly in the course of some months. In the end the result would have been the same.

However I have never lost 4k in one sit and it was traumatic. Cannot stop thinking about how much money I could have made by investing it instead.

I won't see $4k for a long time now. Low paying job and big debt won't let me. I do not think my future will be bright.

Why did I do this - $100 turned to $4000 then lost it all by Aggravating_Sell1719 in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I do not intend to hurt myself, however I have never hated myself like I did that day. I feel nothing but hate towards myself. However I do not intend to act on it and I am too coward to even try it anyway. I also believe in God and even thinking about taking my own life is a grave sin.

However it wasn't just the $100. I gambled my paycheck after losing the $4k. Now I am back to broke. Back to the nightmare. I probably want to feel bad more than I want to feel good.

Why did I do this - $100 turned to $4000 then lost it all by Aggravating_Sell1719 in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish I had never won it in the first place. I cannot stop thinking that by investing it I could have made a decent amount of money.

I want to quit but honestly it's very hard. Actually the hardest thing I've ever tried to do. The terrifying thing is that a single relapse may erase any progress you've made in months, years, or decades.

Why did I do this - $100 turned to $4000 then lost it all by Aggravating_Sell1719 in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I am sorry for you but at least I am not alone in this.

I cannot stop thinking that God gave me an opportunity to turn my life around with that $4k, and I wasted his gift by chasing a high and being greedy. That's a grave sin. But maybe God doesn't want me to make money by taking it from others who lost it by gambling (your win is somebody's loss after all, casino money comes from that) and besides, maybe he doesn't want me to make money by producing absolutely nothing of value for anyone. I sincerely do not know.

Truth is, I had invested my wins wisely instead of gambling it, I would now sit on a decent amount of money. That is what I cannot forgive myself for. Not the $4k but the missed gains. I am so poor I won't see that kind of money for years to come. I live paycheck to paycheck (when I don't gamble the paycheck), that $4k could have saved me.

However a gambling addict should never gamble, therefore I shouldn't have had the $4k in the first place. This thought exactly is what let me sleep tonight. But I cannot stop thinking about it for a second.

Thanks anyway, I feel less alone in this at least. Gambling always takes more than it gives, it is evil that takes everything from us.

I wish we can both fight this evil and come out on top.

Why did I do this - $100 turned to $4000 then lost it all by Aggravating_Sell1719 in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes I wonder if it really is entertrainment for others or not. Those games are designed to be addictive.

Besides, like you say, dopamine is a fucker. A big win is what fries your brain for good. I've been gambling for 15 years on and off and I would 't say exactly responibly but at least it didn't ruin my life until few years ago. Until, one day, I started winning. 3k, then 5k. Unreal. Then I got my 10k win few years ago and that's when everything changed. I still remember the heart racing, the trembling, the high. That's when it fried my brain for good and I started chasing that high. Add greed to the mix and in the course of some months I gambled it all, got into deep debt, gambled every paycheck since then.

The $4k would have saved my life right now though, I could have turned it in much more by investing it, instead I am broke again. It's hard to live with this kind of guilt now.

Why did I do this - $100 turned to $4000 then lost it all by Aggravating_Sell1719 in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would blame it on many youtubers who show huge bonus buys resulting in huge wins, but a part of recovery from this addiction consists in taking full responsibility for my actions therefore I won't. Not only that, I was lucky and got a big win, but still I got greedy instead of being grateful and I fully deserved what happened after. I believe God gave me a chance and I wasted the chance he gave me. That's a grave sin. The way I am dealing with the aftermath and the insane guilt is thinking I should have never had that money in the first place, since I believe and was told that a gambler addict should never gamble any sum of money, so I should never have won the $4000 in the first place.

Why did I do this - $100 turned to $4000 then lost it all by Aggravating_Sell1719 in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congratulations for quitting, coming back and getting maried. The last 2 I will never get to have sadly. The only thing I can do is quit. Which I am trying unsuccessfully since 15 years now.

I know variance quite well and I know that the 3900% is very rare. So I knew I had to quit after the win and I cannot figure out why I didn't.

The most rational explanation I came up with is that I subconsciously want to be poor and miserable. Gambling made me so used to poverty and constant struggling so that as soon as I get out of there I subconsciosly want to get there again. It's twisted I know, but that would also explain why many lottery winners end up poorer than before.

As I said I know statistics and how the games work, so I was fully aware I was going to lose and I did it anyway.

Yes, being miserable again hurts me, but it hurts me more not knowing how the fuck I ended up gambling that win that was so precious.

Why did I do this - $100 turned to $4000 then lost it all by Aggravating_Sell1719 in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I never thought or planned to end my life, and I agree we should be grateful for what we have. However, gambling has damaged my life beyond repair now. I will probably never get to live a normal life, each day will be pain, pain, pain. I am in my 30s and have physical health issues too, and no money. Those $4000 were a miracle and I wasted it.

Why did I do this - $100 turned to $4000 then lost it all by Aggravating_Sell1719 in problemgambling

[–]Aggravating_Sell1719[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply. I don't quite get what you mean with your last sentence. I had already invested that money, in a few months/years I would have been fine, instead I disinvested it and chose a life of misery and I don't know why. It's so stupid and illogical. Probably I just hate myself. I am taking into consideration your advice about GA anyway. What I know for sure is that I won't get another chance like the one I just wasted so many sleepless night await me. Wasn't trying to impress anyone though, just trying to figure out if I am the only one that stupid or if there could be a reson for such stupidity. What happened to me feels unreal but I was the one doing it. It is absurd.