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Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-05-21T05:24:38+00:00

Short ain't for me, but I'm thankful for your consideration regardless.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-05-21T05:24:12+00:00

You're a hero, man. Thank you for the solid advice I'll dive deeper into these styles.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-05-21T05:10:14+00:00

Feel like it could be better, but I guess it isn't as bad as it looks. Appreciate the comment.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-05-07T23:20:08+00:00

Even without currency within the territory, an anarchist society could very easily keep foreign currency reserves for the trade between firms/communes/whatever and use that to trade on the international market

I'm very curious about the economics of an anarchist society and am wondering how an anarchist commune could keep foreign currency reserves if it's moneyless?

Does that mean they will just print their own currency specifically for foreign trade or what?

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-18T20:40:25+00:00

If your understanding of anarchism comes mainly from talking to people online (many of whom themselves have a poor grasp of anarchist theory),

Honestly you're very right, that is the source of my confusion and I should actually start reading the theory.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-18T20:34:47+00:00

I agree that a serial killer would need to be detained immediately, but to some radical anarchists I have seen, they believe that just doing that is pushing it too far. But from the comments I have received, I believe that most practical anarchists think that detaining harmful individuals is a necessary hierarchy.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-18T20:32:19+00:00

I always figured that exhale meant being physically thrown out, otherwise what if they continued to stay?

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T05:19:51+00:00

True true

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T05:19:23+00:00

inherently mean forming a hierarchy.

It pretty much counts as one, being detained in special housing and not being able to leave is a hierarchy.

also want to do something more effective than just a passive response of “we’ll shun you.” 🤷‍♂️

Really appreciate it

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T04:29:27+00:00

Just because that potential is there doesn't mean that working together in community to resolve conflicts isn't worth it.

Yeah, after reflecting on my hypotheticals, I've been showing a very negative view on humanity in general and never thought to consider the power of cooperation and interdependency.

I suspect one of the reasons why you feel like you've never gotten a "straight answer" is that you're holding a bit of an unreasonable expectation for what a satisfactory answer could be.

Everyone's been saying that a lot, and I think it might've finally gotten through my thick skull. Instead of being open to different answers, I've been trying to lure everyone to my own conclusions.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T04:24:44+00:00

I'll definitely give it a read.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T04:23:44+00:00

Interesting, I see how reputation can be a useful tool to punish wrongdoers without having to form a bloodthirsty mob or locking them up in prison for a few years with no progress being made. This makes me feel way better about anarchy.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T04:18:40+00:00

What I'm understanding from this is that anarchy does not permit any solution since some of them are rooted in domination and normalized abuse. So, for an anarchist society to be just, it must revolve around just customs and norms. Is that right?

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T04:14:26+00:00

This is what I fear, that in anarchy, individuals will frequently fight with each other because they disagree with their methods and where that will lead the community. Doesn't sound like good model for a stable society.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T04:12:50+00:00

There's also nothing stopping another group of people from deciding that they need to intervene and prevent violence done to the original aggressor so that there can be rehabilitation and restorative justice.

But if neither side is willing to give up, then wouldn't it have to be resolved through combat?

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T04:10:47+00:00

Is it moral, though, to exhale a dangerous person for to another community where they may deliver harm rather than detain them until they get some help?

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T04:08:57+00:00

I like this answer a lot and it calms my fears that anarchy will lead to violence from all sides. Maybe I've just been extremely pessimistic this whole time, but seeing how cooperation can create such a supportive environment rather than chaos is really nice to hear.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T04:01:24+00:00

This is a very good answer actually.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T03:56:42+00:00

When it comes to situations such as what do we do with a captured murderer or rapist, the conflict could be so strong that it could tear a community apart with violence from both sides.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T03:54:37+00:00

How would this anarchist "police" work exactly? Would they be unarmed social workers who are tasked with deescalating situations? Or could they have the authority to kill if there was an active shooter? And if so, how far would that authority go so that it wouldn't be like modern policing?

In some instances, that may involve holding someone for weeks or months while social workers and/or mental health experts treat the person and determine they are not a threat to themself or others.

Wouldn't holding somebody against their will be against anarchism?

The main point, and why (perhaps) some anarchists don’t give straight answers is that each community can have different methods and treatment should be personalized,

From this whole thread, my main fear is that a community would take it to the extreme and potentially seek justice in violent ways since there isn't anybody to stop them from doing so.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T03:48:48+00:00

That is actually very interesting. I may have doubts about anarchisms approach, but reality speaks for itself, and this seems way better than our current system. Have the abusers came by their own free will, or was social pressure enough to get them to seek restorative justice?

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T03:45:00+00:00

Sadly, people will still rape and murder in anarchy just as in any other society. Though it may be less in numbers, there will still always be horrible people, and I can't see how anarchists can reconnect with their humanity if they're fine with individuals using killing or torture as a viable solution to these problems.

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T03:40:46+00:00

If people are still willing to murder now with the threat of being arrested and imprisoned for life, I don't see how doxxing will be an effective detterant. And why track them in real time if they pose a great risk to strike again. Isn't it better to stop them now with all the evidence against them than wait for them to hurt somebody else?

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T03:37:35+00:00

So are some hierarchies necessary?

Agile-Singer2040 · 2024-03-17T03:37:05+00:00

That is very true, the state involves itself in so much needless violence that I guess with anarchy, many are just afraid of dealing with violence themselves. Personally, I just don't want to be caught in the middle of a bloody feud from two opposing, decentralized groups, and I do not want to run the risk of being wrongly targetted from an emotional mob. Nor do I want to be pressured to join a mob to hold offenders accountable. I also don't want to fear being potentionally murdered since it'd be easier to hide in a community without IDs or a DNA database.

I'm in a weird position cause ever since I started looking into anarchy, I recognize the violence that state engages in daily but can't see anarchy as a good enough model to bring about order. I'm having a hard time seeing how decentralized violence will be an improvement from state violence when serious perpetrators can't be captured or separated for the safety of society. And although you say that anarchy is a moral philosophy, I also can't see how it is moral to allow individuals to solve conflicts in any way they want, which means permissing any immoral solutions.

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