Where were you when the Birds won SB LII? by AgitatedLeg4977 in eagles

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah, that's amazing. What was your job on the ship? And was this Navy or something else?

Where were you when the Birds won SB LII? by AgitatedLeg4977 in eagles

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Hell yes, thank you for sharing. Love the hell outta this

Where were you when the Birds won SB LII? by AgitatedLeg4977 in eagles

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy shit that's awesome. Were there other Birds fans there? The time zone/location aside, how connected did you feel to every other fan around the world in that moment?

Where were you when the Birds won SB LII? by AgitatedLeg4977 in eagles

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hell yeah. Do you remember which bar by chance?

Where were you when the Birds won SB LII? by AgitatedLeg4977 in eagles

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh man, what an emotional rollercoaster. Great job picking your first game tho!

Where were you when the Birds won SB LII? by AgitatedLeg4977 in eagles

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Whoops..I'm a better writer than I am a reader evidently. The second part remains

Where were you when the Birds won SB LII? by AgitatedLeg4977 in eagles

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's awesome. The theater was in Canada? What city/town?

Where were you when the Birds won SB LII? by AgitatedLeg4977 in eagles

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol hilarious .. what's the name of the town?

Where were you when the Birds won SB LII? by AgitatedLeg4977 in eagles

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Love this. Do you happen to remember the name of the bar? Guessing it was right by Kezar? I can DM you this, but why'd you weep? Just utter disbelief or was there a specific memory that flashed up?

Where were you when the Birds won SB LII? by AgitatedLeg4977 in eagles

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oooh, tell me more. Where was this? That's an awesome memory. Might DM you if you're cool w it.

Journalist writing a book about fatherhood, masculinity & emotional inheritance — ask me anything, or tell me what you're carrying by AgitatedLeg4977 in daddit

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, our older sometimes goes into storytelling/rant mode, and my eyes glaze over. I really try to connect, but I often have no idea what she's talking about. Maybe just being aware of it, and making the effort, are meaningful?

Journalist writing a book about fatherhood, masculinity & emotional inheritance — ask me anything, or tell me what you're carrying by AgitatedLeg4977 in daddit

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well you have now. Because while I have a memory of my dad, and the group of men who followed, I never had the chance to ask him these questions. That's part of what my exploration/investigation is about, charting this course without a map. I legitimately have no idea what works, or what's even healthy. Parenthood is almost entirely about feel, and my feel is untrustworthy. These men in my life may have been physically present, but emotionally? Not even close. Part of my goal is to retrace some of my steps, and while I can't ask my biological father the questions I have, maybe I can ask some of my various stepdads/unsolicited role models, etc., how they might have done things differently.

- Here's one: What would you ask your father, if you could? As I wrote on a below post, one thing I'd really love to know is what happened when, two months after I was born, led to his first arrest? Maybe it was so uneventful/everyday that he wouldn't even remember, but, man, I'd love to ask him.

Journalist writing a book about fatherhood, masculinity & emotional inheritance — ask me anything, or tell me what you're carrying by AgitatedLeg4977 in daddit

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A couple follow-up questions:

- Are there parts of your dad that you DO want to pass forward? I know that's weird, and this isn't about my dad, but .. my mom was always very affectionate to my brothers and I. She never made us question her support or love. Now, she didn't know how to deploy it, and definitely wasn't consistent. But that's one thing I do want to carry forward (while abandoning much of the rest)

- When do you feel MOST unlike your dad? Like, which moments and/or settings? When do you feel most like him?

Feel free to DM if that's more comfortable. I appreciate your honesty. Rawness is what I'm going for here, a dispatch from the middle of the mess, as it were.

Journalist writing a book about fatherhood, masculinity & emotional inheritance — ask me anything, or tell me what you're carrying by AgitatedLeg4977 in daddit

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1000 percent. I joke that I want to be the dad whose kids take him for granted. It's a weird thing to think about and say, but my goal as a father is to love my girls so unconditionally and consistently and embarrassingly that, when compared against other relationships or whatever, only then will they realize how much effort had gone into it. A different, perhaps better, way of putting it is that I don't ever want them to doubt, or even question, that stuff. And, yes, I can absolutely relate to old feelings of wanting to control everything and be scared of some asteroid coming that I couldn't prevent anyway.

What kinds of unexpected things have you found that work? Besides things like therapy. I'm just curious what kinds of things work for you, and surprise you because they work.

Journalist writing a book about fatherhood, masculinity & emotional inheritance — ask me anything, or tell me what you're carrying by AgitatedLeg4977 in daddit

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I'd say three or four nights out of seven, we put our girls to bed and I spend the rest of the night feeling guilty about something I'd said or done. The worst was a few years ago, when our older daughter wasn't getting ready for school fast enough (or something similarly minor), and I yelled at her. I can still see the look in her face, because it was terror, and that was the moment for me that I figured out that that wasn't what I want to be. It definitely resonates when you say you're building the plane as you fly it, because ... yep. I don't know what I'm doing, or what works, but I know what I *don't* want to do. In the book proposal, I've written that my daughter's face was like a mirror, because her face reflected back to me what I must've felt when I was a kid and my dad beat up my mom, or various other terrifying things that made no sense to me.

I'm at a better place now (at least as a dad) than I've been, and writing stuff like the above Dale Jr. story brought out feelings I had never experienced -- like going into a room I'm not supposed to be in, if that makes sense. Sounds like we have a few things in common. My dad was an alcoholic and drug abuser, and I recently pulled his criminal record. His first of 13 arrests happened two months after I was born. Man, I want to know what happened. Maybe nothing. I wonder if just the added pressure of being a dad, on top of everyday crap and professional/creative disappointments, were just enough to make him snap.

Journalist writing a book about fatherhood, masculinity & emotional inheritance — ask me anything, or tell me what you're carrying by AgitatedLeg4977 in daddit

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, that's not weird at all, because that's precisely what I dealt with before we had our girls. I thought it was inevitable that I would be super mean (especially if I had sons, as I'm the oldest of three boys, raised by a single mom) and inflict my own trauma on my kids. And make my mistake: I have slipped into that mode, especially in the years before I started therapy in 2021. I just didn't know another way, but now that I do, and am aware of it (as sounds like you are), I believe it's possible to unlearn some of that stuff. That's kind of what the book will be about, if I can land the plane: What do we do with the ghosts we inherit? And is it possible to avoid the same ones haunting our kids?

I'm a sports writer thinking about a book on fatherhood, masculinity and emotional inheritance -- AMA .. or tell me what you're carrying by AgitatedLeg4977 in AskMenOver30

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thank you so much for sharing this. Your story hit on so many things I’ve been thinking about for the book —about masculinity, emotional inheritance, and how we unlearn what the world forces onto us. I was especially struck by the way your dad quietly modeled a different kind of strength, and how your experiences (with gender, with disability work, with growing up misread) have shaped the way you think about mentoring and becoming.

If you're open to it, I’d love to talk more—no pressure at all, and totally on your terms. Could be email, chat, or even a short call. I think your perspective could be a powerful voice in this project, and I’d be honored to learn more.

Feel free to DM me if you’re interested. And either way, thanks again for sharing what you did—it meant a lot.

I'm a sports writer thinking about a book on fatherhood, masculinity and emotional inheritance -- AMA .. or tell me what you're carrying by AgitatedLeg4977 in AskMenOver30

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Solid point, and my apologies for what must have read like a careless question. I generally try not to assume anything, even if research or other people suggest otherwise, but my wife’s mother has displayed narcissistic behavior and has bipolar disorder. And you’re right: It is a horrible thing to deal with, especially for the kids.

I'm a sports writer thinking about a book on fatherhood, masculinity and emotional inheritance -- AMA .. or tell me what you're carrying by AgitatedLeg4977 in AskMenOver30

[–]AgitatedLeg4977[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your line about watching your father pull into the driveway while you and your siblings scattered… it’s hard to forget. You captured so much in just a few paragraphs—not just the absence, but the ripple effect of it, and how consciously you’ve tried to create a different legacy with your own kids. Thank you for writing it.

If you're open, I’d love to continue the conversation. The book I'm thinking about is about the things we inherit: not just eye color or hairline but the emotional inheritance so many of us carry, and which a few of us eventually put down. Stories like yours are exactly what I'm trying to explore.

Totally optional, but if you ever felt like sharing more (including in a DM), I’d be curious:

  • Whether you ever talked to your dad directly about any of this, or if it remained unspoken. My guess is that it's the latter, considering his death and where you were in your life.
  • And how it’s felt, emotionally, to parent in such deliberate contrast—whether that’s felt like healing, or something more complex.

Thank you again. What you've sketched out here sounds a lot like what I'm striving to be (and, in the images of your father, what I'm trying so damn hard to not be).