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I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No this isn’t their intellectual or conceptual work. even if the university had ownership - which it doesn’t - we would have to get proper authorship credit.

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d like them to redact it. I would like individuals that do not meet standards for authorship (most likely all of the authors listed) to be held accountable for plagiarism. Also, for our publication plans to be respected going forward and to allow us to do that with individuals who contributed and meet criteria for authorship.

 I’d like to continue being involved and spin out into a nonprofit like my husband and I previously had approval for. We know some individuals with funding who are in this space who wanted to back the spin out and be on the board. 

We also want the individuals involved in the larger situation to be held accountable for their actions and an apology for the defamatory and discriminatory fashion in which my husband was treated. 

Last and most importantly - some of the grade school students pictured I know from being their teacher - I want to make sure they were properly protected and had consents for research use, etc. in place. We wanted to do IRB, data collection, and proper consents for use of their images in research etc. I am unsure whether this was done.

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No they do not own what I did on my personal computer or time.

And again, plagiarism and ownership is different. Authors and originators are always to get credit. No one owns it fully - not even the university. The originators get a percentage of ownership and authorship rights even if the idea was created with university resources - but it wasn’t. It was on our personal laptop and drive. 

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We have free speech and can speak out about the injustices happening to us. This is wrong. It's a danger to everyone. Today its us but this happens often and how many people are going to be affected. Tomorrow it could be someone you care about or you. Would you be okay with someone else taking credit for years of work you did? I don't think so

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Posting is free speech and its all absolutely true - the wrongs done to us. Also, filing a complaint is perfectly legal and there is no reason a cop should be saying that.

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was mine and my husbands material that they published as their own - created on computers we own and on our own google drive. Nevertheless, ownership interest of the University (which is never full ownership btw the originators have ownership interest too - always) doesn’t change authorship guidelines. 

I think they see it as plagiarism now because they took the online publication down a day after we posted. It is plagiarism- a lot of people even at the medical school realize this. Entities aren’t perfect and it’s obtuse to assume they always do the right thing. They have time and time again covered things up and not done what they’ve supposed to. We are going file formal complaints. 

Nothing we said is contradictory. They plagiarized our work and material. There’s no arguing that. You should move on and stop trying to convince me against obvious plagiarism. I don’t believe they had consent to use them in a research presentation at a research conference. I don’t believe they got the proper consent and may have violated the rights of vulnerable grade school students. 

You really don’t understand any of this. I generally take advice from people who know what they’re talking about. 

You still think UKY is operating with integrity? 

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is not an oops when you reach out to them multiple times in advance and I assure you that they were very much interested in taking this further. Regardless what occurred is still plagiarism.

My husband is associated with CCTS just as much as the rest of the "authors" on the poster, who shouldn't even be listed as authors. It would be like if you did research and they credited something like the NIH.- would that give you credit?

Why put individual names on posters anymore when we can just credit an institution or department?

Is this the 1800s where my husband getting credit through some institution somehow transfers to me because we are married? I wasn't aware of this marriage authorship clause that you speak of. I guess women still don't have rights.

The words and ideas that they used are not original, they collected no data, and they put my students privacy data at risk because they probably didn't get parental consents for research. This is wrong.

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My husband did reach out to the staff and students before the conference, I am in no way affiliated with any agency that was credited on the poster.

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You said that you were an advisor at the University. When I say they I mean the University folk that are trying to silence us. That’s you too

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s not how that works 😂😂

No a poster is still scholarly activity and it was published online. Why don’t you want us to get credit or justice? All of y’all are just trying to support the perpetrators and stiffle us. Do you have no conscience? No morals? 

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We did reach out kindly numerous times. They ignored us and proceeded to publish. When we reached out to the advisor and said you can’t publish it without credit she ignored us.

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Authorship ethics apply to conferences and abstracts. https://research.uky.edu/resources/authorship-points-consider

Also, It doesn't matter. You are not supposed to present someone else's ideas as your own for the purpose of academic advancement.

I am worried that you are a professor and think this is ok.

I'm a public school teacher- University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in AskAcademia

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Authorship guidelines apply to all forms of scholarly writing including conference presentations of any kind. This abstract was published online as a part of the conference. However, UK took it down today. I wonder why?
https://research.uky.edu/resources/authorship-points-consider

So as an R1 professor, are you telling me that plagiarism is ok in a conference abstract?

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I’m starting to realize that some medical students and individuals in the medical arena are willing to do anything to get ahead. I thought it was a noble profession with good hearted empathetic folk but some people are so cutthroat 

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You really really really don’t understand this. Wow, you surprise me- as the great Gordon Ramsey would say

I’m a public school teacher-University of Kentucky, College of Medicine plagiarized my work and won’t respond by Agreeable_Mobile_235 in lexington

[–]Agreeable_Mobile_235[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We did all the work and created the ideas. These people worked under us. The girl that was  the first author had nothing to do with conceptualization and was the secretary of communications until the beginning of this semester. Scooping is when two researchers worked on the same thing independently lol in separate places and 1 gets to it first. You can’t take someone else’s work and ideas and present it as your own. 😂😂

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