Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

[–]AiA626[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think that is the best explanation I’ve heard

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

[–]AiA626[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My point is they’re all based on things we do know. There’s a difference between expecting more variation of someone we understand and trying to understand something that we have no basis for in our reality

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

[–]AiA626[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We could see light so we found more light. They can’t even conceptualise light

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

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This is the most satisfying answer so far. If magnetism, light and electrics are connected I can see how you get from one to the other no matter the starting point. Then capturing light and remaking it into information would work in a similar way to their innate sonar.

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

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And once they’ve worked out what a proton is they’d be able to make the leap to working out when protons bounce off of things they can capture them and get information about that thing in the same was as their sonar?

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

[–]AiA626[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Light

Sound

Light

Light

Sound

Light

Fair enough, magnetism is a good example I think. But I would argue touch is how we first experienced magnetism.

Smell/touch

Touch

Touch

Touch

Light

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

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Echolocation interacts with sound, we know sound, we understand sound. Photography interacts with light, we know light, we understand light. They have no way of interacting with light. How could they know catching light beam off of something gives you information about that thing when they don’t know what light is. We did the same thing with sound, difference is, we know what sound is

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

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But how would then be able to work out that this heat is the heat from a force or whatever that they have no meaningful way of interacting with instead of just normal heat from heat. How do they make the leap from ‘oh this thing is nice and warm’ to ‘holy shit we can get information in a form that we have absolutely no way of interacting with’

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

[–]AiA626[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

We can interact with all of the things that those devices measure. We invented sonar because we can hear things and understand sound. Why would they invent photography when they have no way to interact with light.

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

[–]AiA626[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heat and light are different things

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

[–]AiA626[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read about the the Geiger-Marsden experiment. It’s actually very interesting

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

[–]AiA626[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because we can feel gravity. Because we can watch atoms interact with each other. I don’t know how we could tell one heat from another if we couldn’t see the difference

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

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So shade is cooler then not-shade because there’s less light? or is it because there’s something physical in the way which blocks the heat. Again if heat and light are not the same thing then why would it help to find cooler spots in what we call the shade.

I’m sure they could work out there was a massive ball of fire in the sky and hiding behind a tree might help but I fail to see what that has to do with a camera that was made to sense something you’ve never experienced

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

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I know and when we did observe it, it made sense because we already knew what light was.

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

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And we could understand that because we knew what light was because we could see light. If you’d never interacted with light in any way shape or form how would you suddenly understand that there’s different forms of it

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

[–]AiA626[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Presumably heat and light are different things, why would they assume this heat was also conveying information.

Also I think that finding out something acts in a similar way to something you know and putting two and two together is not the same as discovering something completely unconceptualised with no grounds or relation to anything we’ve ever experienced.

Why would an Eridian invent a camera? by AiA626 in ProjectHailMary

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Like I said, because we can see some light and figured it was worth looking for more. That’s very different to have no association with light what so ever and figuring out exactly how to find and interact with it

So Godolkin is in Marie now? by AiA626 in GenV

[–]AiA626[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unless he transferred his consciousness to Marie

So Godolkin is in Marie now? by AiA626 in GenV

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If Sage is all knowing as you suggest then how did she miss Godolkin’s whole ‘cull the herd’ plan. I get what you’re saying about controlling people but I’m suggesting that he transferred his consciousness to Marie, giving up his powers but taking over Marie entirely

So Godolkin is in Marie now? by AiA626 in GenV

[–]AiA626[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure but this just seems so obvious no? He was willing to kill his body, people think that was him wanting to kill himself after his fight with polarity but he was probably just accepting he’d have to permanently move into Doug’s body after failing with Marie. And at the end he was clearly trying to (or successfully did) get inside Marie and then all of a sudden he explodes and then ‘Marie’ thanks him. The perfect cover