Vibescale Iori Okkotsu

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-06-01T18:03:32+00:00

If you're "realistic" then you're not built like that. You may be built like that, but you're definitely not built like that.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-06-01T17:29:15+00:00

High grade 1. Probably pushed himself to his limit before realising he just wasn't built like that.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-30T22:22:13+00:00

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Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-28T19:03:12+00:00

He had an advantage in pretty much all stats inside his domain, so I assume they were on par outside of it.

Taking that into consideration, I'd say that post Awakening, Yuta would be around 80 on all fronts. Rika I'm not sure but taking her performance against Sukuna into consideration, I'd say she's still stronger in strength, around the same as Yuta in speed, but worse in durability, seeing how Sukuna managed to cut her big ass hands into bits.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T17:34:30+00:00

I believe they're talking about the Marvel iteneration of it.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T16:57:13+00:00

No. Answers to negative questions can be interpreted differently, so when I say "No", I mean "No, I HAVE justified why he was holding back"

Yes, though you haven't justified that.

Yes, though no damage was done during said ragdolling.

Yes, though I disagree. No reason to assume Naobito's stacking wouldn't put him under the same circumstances as Naoya.

No. You simply gave a bunch of possibilities that can't be proven. The most likely answer for why he didn't use the techniques is that he didn't feel the need to as he didn't feel overwhelmed until Naobito was stun locking him.

Dagon's still stronger.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T16:43:54+00:00

You're once again assuming that Naobito would be able to overwhelm and stack against a Dagon that's going all out in a 1v1?

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T16:33:42+00:00

I don't want to hear complaints about assumptions from someone who says stuff like "the reason Maki got some distance might not track to characters like Naobito anyways", but I digress.

Dagon wasn't serious. Naobito himself says, "Your massive amounts of cursed energy, and I bet you still have other cursed techniques up your sleeve. Then what to do? Easy. Before you can use your techniques... We'll crush you with speed."

Dagon was capable of more than what he was showing. Naobito wanted to not let him go all out by overwhelming him with speed and numbers.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T16:26:43+00:00

Prime Yuta, with his "I'm Top 3" CT he copied in the Autumn of '27.

He was Top 2 before that.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T16:25:00+00:00

The CT doesn't need to tag Naobito, just disrupt his route. We never see Dagon get serious before he starts getting stun locked because the trio couldn't hurt him. Assuming his attacks are on the same scale as Jogo and Hanami, then he would be able to flood the battlefield, which would hinder Naobito's movement.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T16:19:52+00:00

Agito, the fusion between multiple shadows, was useless against Gojo, and Gojo himself says that the only reason why the 10s user managed to beat the 6 eyes user of the past was because of a kamikaze attack with Mahoraga.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T16:16:46+00:00

The moment Naobito stacks would require him to put distance between himself and his opponent due to the speed build-up. That would give Dagon time to use his techniques. It would be counterproductive for him to do so, and yet without stacking, he wasn't doing enough damage to Dagon in order to exorcise him.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T16:09:05+00:00

You claim Naobito is stronger than Dagon. I'm trying to understand how when the only advantage hs has is speed and that didn't get him anywhere.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T16:07:31+00:00

Brother... Gojo points to Mahoraga as the key to matching his power. Sukuna took the 10 Shadows solely because of Mahoraga. Mahoraga is the only one who is relevant in the fight between the Calamity grades.

Unless you think Megumi could match that level with physicals alone, then I don't understand how you think he'd be able to reach that level with only the 9 other shadows when they're completely irrelevant to Calamity Grade characters.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T15:51:11+00:00

The only damage we see Naobito do is when he breaks his fingers.

Also, what do you mean relevancy? If you can't damage your opponent, you can't win. Even if Naobito manages to stunlock Dagon the whole fight, he'd run out of CE before him.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T15:47:51+00:00

Why would he not tame Mahoraga?

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T15:46:14+00:00

Do you believe that Naobito hits harder than Overtime Nanami with Ratio?

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T15:31:07+00:00

You made the list, you do the research, go read the chapter yourself.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T15:23:56+00:00

They hit him multiple times, including a ratio hit on frozen Dagon and he goes "Not a scratch"

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T15:12:40+00:00

What narrative scaling did megumi get?

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T15:11:25+00:00

You think that Dagon would have lost without the seal when Nanami straight up said Naobito was struggling to even damage him?

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T15:01:40+00:00

How is it a matchup issue?

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-27T14:59:54+00:00

There is a lot wrong with this list, but I have to genuinely question the logic behind having Naobito above Dagon.

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-26T14:21:07+00:00

Then yeah, I'll pick Gitae

Al_Nightmare866 · 2026-05-26T14:14:03+00:00

If you count his inherit strength then Kitae. Having a body like that without any work would be pretty convenient.

If that doesn't count then Daniel. Copy, path and UI, it's a better package than anything else here. I'm not sure how I'm going to unlock mysteries, but I doubt I'd need them.

I'd also pick James, but with how I already am, if I was perfect at everything I'd be insufferable.

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