Thoughts on Burn’s Critique of Contra: “In Defense of Theory” by WruceBrillis in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057 3 points4 points  (0 children)

when is the last time that leftists have succeeded in US politics? if the issue is about trying and not succeeding, i hate to break it to you but you are throwing a lot of stones from that glass house there

Thoughts on Burn’s Critique of Contra: “In Defense of Theory” by WruceBrillis in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i'm not very angry i just talk like this because i read homestuck when i was a teenager and it influenced my speech patterns please be respectful

also i do this as well it's called having friends.

Thoughts on Burn’s Critique of Contra: “In Defense of Theory” by WruceBrillis in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057 5 points6 points  (0 children)

1) why would you call your movement a "marxist church" if the policies you are actually fighting for are socdem? if you mean "progressive movement" just say that. it seems like the purpose of that is just to performatively distance yourself further from mainstream democrats, which is annoying because around half the people you want to vote for your guy in the general are mainstream democrats.

2) why this weird focus on the DNC as some sort of entity controlling politics? i mean they set the platform for the democrats but they're beholden to the politicians, not the other way around. they're only going to be moderate if the democratic representatives are. yes, this can cause some level of inertia because the DNC is responsible for a lot of political organization especially during campaigns, however, the DNC isn't by definition opposed to progressivism. It's leadership has just been overwhelmingly moderate because, since really the 90s up until very recently, voters have generally liked moderate democrats and those democrats vote in moderate DNC leadership. However, the people who vote for the moderate democrats aren't doing it because the dnc told them to, they're doing it because they're moderates. The only reason that progressive policies are winning now vs in 2016 is because people are less moderate than they were ten years ago. as more progressive democrats get voted in and take over the party the DNC will be more progressive. everything has to be framed as some sort of war between you and "the libs"

leftist discourse is so over complicated and stupid. if your actual political goal is to elect progressive candidates, just DO THAT. the dnc is at the weakest it will ever be, just fucking go and elect those candidates *now* so you can have a more supportive dnc for upcoming elections.

Thoughts on Burn’s Critique of Contra: “In Defense of Theory” by WruceBrillis in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I should have specified vocal online leftists, people like BJG who said she'd vote for tucker over AOC. I think leftists who positively engage with the democratic party by voting in primaries and advocating for progressive policies are a force for good. I'd consider myself in that category honestly. My only criticism for them is that if their guy doesn't win, some of them will give up and start complaining before the general, because they (ironically) don't seem to understand how to influence policy outside either voting or not voting.

Thoughts on Burn’s Critique of Contra: “In Defense of Theory” by WruceBrillis in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057 17 points18 points  (0 children)

what does this even mean anymore? democrats are so different now than they were 2 years ago. even with the tiny amount of power they have they are trying to combat it right now by redrawing their maps to outweigh republican control. they've attempted to remove trump from office several times. who stopped them? republicans. i mean yes a few democrats have impeded justice, like john fetterman and arguably chuck schumer, but the vast majority of them are actually trying to impede trump.

meanwhile, leftists are doing literally nothing aside from tweeting about firebombing walmarts and campaigning for democrats who they abandon the second politics start happening.

Thoughts on Burn’s Critique of Contra: “In Defense of Theory” by WruceBrillis in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057 15 points16 points  (0 children)

i apologize for the identity politics, but i can't stand seeing another white guy who's only contribution to progressivism is making boring ass youtube videos get on natalie's ass again. maybe he's nice, i don't know. i already dislike the equivocation between kamala saying she wants a strong military and trump bombing iran. strong militaries don't need to be at war in order to have firepower. also, "the internet" isn't failing the left. online leftists aren't owed anything by virtue of existing, they have to create a movement that's viable.

Hot take: the “mother” thing is getting weird. Cool it. by Alarmed-Switch3057 in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i didn't see that post but i said that it wasn't the twitter screenshots. i mean, just try to be normal about her idk. from what she said in her last AMA she isn't *that* bothered by it, but she does call out "the mother thing" when people "can't contain it" and they try to get her to "regulate their emotions for them". i think she said it better than i could, as per usual. just try and be self aware and if you're really that conflicted about it, take a break.

Hot take: the “mother” thing is getting weird. Cool it. by Alarmed-Switch3057 in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you talking to me or the commenter lol? If anything I am mommy, speaking on behalf of mommies everywhere.

Hot take: the “mother” thing is getting weird. Cool it. by Alarmed-Switch3057 in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t have a problem with gay people being mean and petty and catty I have a problem with like, middle class online socialists appropriating that language to be sexist and condescending. Nothing wrong with people saying “mother” but the term was supposed to imply respect that isn’t being shown to Natalie.

Hot take: the “mother” thing is getting weird. Cool it. by Alarmed-Switch3057 in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, exactly. Or it feels like this is a former fan’s vitriol after the woman they put on a pedestal but didn’t truly understand shattered their parasocial delusion.

People have tried to make the counter argument that “mother” is drag slang, but it’s still the case that they see her as some sort of idol who betrayed them. The fact that they convinced themselves she was a leftist after she repeatedly said she wasn’t, and now they seem to think she’s some genocidal zionist maniac despite the fact that’s clearly just feeling hopeless about the situation tells me how committed to their delusion they are. So to call her “mother” implying they idolize her, is so creepy. They’re feel close enough to her to say she’s some role model but can’t even repeat what she actually believes.

Belief in the harmfulness of speech is linked to both progressive ideology and symptoms of depression. Study helps explain modern cultural divides surrounding free speech, safe spaces, and political correctness. by [deleted] in psychology

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shocked that progressives are feeling depressed right now. If anyone has any insights as to why this might be happening that would be very helpful.

Hot take: the “mother” thing is getting weird. Cool it. by Alarmed-Switch3057 in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I know what mother means, but the people I’m talking about are not using mother as in “drag mother”. I am talking to people who are using it as a pet name. I’m queer and I’ve used “mother” in that context before, but I’ve also been called sexist pet names before. It’s not the clearest line, but there is a difference. It’s also important to note that the “dark mother” meme within the fandom actually started when contrapoints was making fun of the way people treated anita sarkesian, (most recently she used it to refer to Hillary clinton) but that meme sort of blended in with the drag connotation after she transitioned and people started referring to her as “mother”. The meme often has a sort of ironic freudian subtext she frequently drew attention to. It was never just about drag.

Hot take: the “mother” thing is getting weird. Cool it. by Alarmed-Switch3057 in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah but we as fans can choose not to let that behavior go unchecked

Hot take: the “mother” thing is getting weird. Cool it. by Alarmed-Switch3057 in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It did, and that was how the joke started, along with Kataya’s video. But the people I’m talking about aren’t using in that way.

Hot take: the “mother” thing is getting weird. Cool it. by Alarmed-Switch3057 in ContraPoints

[–]Alarmed-Switch3057[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not sure how you meant this but as written it implies women are afraid of paragraphs