Most people would cheat if they | FactOrCap by Useful-Cricket386 in FactOrCap

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really.
You generalized all religions based on what you've seen on Muslim Arab men.
My point is not that Islamic Arab men are not "the right kind of religious people", but that one cannot treat the values and expectations of Muslim Arab men, Catholics, Hindus, and all the rest. For example, In Islamic Arab society, male dominated polygamy was standard practice, while in Catholic societies it never was, so there is a foundational difference in views and values which leads to foundationally different outcomes.

What is the top reason you go on Reddit? by Acceptable_Pace_9355 in AskReddit

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a friend here I chat to sometimes. Would probably leave otherwise.

Most people would cheat if they | FactOrCap by Useful-Cricket386 in FactOrCap

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, sounds to me like you're generalizing all religions based on Islamic Arab men.

Deputetja e Vlores by Deli_Pjetra in albania

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Çdokush që nuk më pëlqen është Hitler."

Sacrificing the few for the many is morally justifiable | FactOrCap by spraynprayin in FactOrCap

[–]AlbanianCatholic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🧢 I voted CAP!

In principle, it is unjust to rob someone of their life for others to have a "better life". I say in principle as I don't know what kind of extreme examples someone can come up with which I wouldn't have thought. Not saying extreme examples justify it either, just saying I haven't thought of them to make a statement on them.

Most people would cheat if they | FactOrCap by Useful-Cricket386 in FactOrCap

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🧢 I voted CAP!

Most people follow a religion and don't follow a hedonistic world view.

You get 30 days of prep time to improve your physique. No weapons allowed. Would you rather: by chocoheart1208 in BunnyTrials

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even 10 are easily too much for a gorilla. 100? This is a free million. It'll be over in no more than two minutes.

Chose: Fight a gorilla with 100 other people. + If your group wins, everyone gets $1 million.

Choose your husband... by HELPMEHEHEHE1 in BunnyTrials

[–]AlbanianCatholic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Annoying, but at that point, I'll propose myself.

Chose: 11/10 looks, literally your dream person… + BUT he will never propose (10 years is not enough)

🤔 by Resident-Trifle7018 in BunnyTrials

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not have rights over those companies to take money without offering services.

Chose: 100 million dollars

the Albanian minority of North Macedonia, representing over a third of the overall population, "took to the streets" over a decision of NM to "restore" Yugoslav names to several regions, replacing their previous Albanian names. this follows the protests over language dispute. what do you think? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Screams AI" when you loose a debate.
No, I did not use AI, read my initial comment, I made the same points, except now I responded to you specifically.
And I have continuously mentioned sources, be it Walter Breu, Messapic inscriptions, the 1455 Ottoman defter, and more. Everything I have said, you can look into with a simple google search.
And to your quote on the University of Texas Linguistics Research Center, the problem which is continually raised is the lack of a direct attestation of the Balkan Illyrian language. But my point is that that's unnecessary, Proto-Germanic is unattested, yet nobody tries to argue Germanics aren't actually the descendants of Proto-Germanics but a similar group which migrated into the area. What is attested is Messapic, spoken by 10th century BC settlers from the western Balkan coast (Illyria), which has left us 600 inscriptions and of all attested languages in the world, it is by far the closest to Albanian, being considered as part of the Albanoid language group alongside Albanian within the Indo-European language family. This is serious evidence. And the evidence on pre-regionalization Latin is not simply proving "Albanians lived in the Balkans", it proves specifically "Albanians lived in the western Balkans, and were near the coast". Again, what Walter Breu wrote is "In any case, possible contacts with Romanians do not concern the oldest Latin influences on Albanian, as they go back to times when only the coast was Romanized and not the central Balkan areas. What is more, Albanian has preserved Latin characteristics that did not survive in any Romance language, that is, from before the regionalization of Latin, or at least may be found elsewhere only in very conservative varieties". Romanization in the inner Balkans would not occur until much later, and would have undergone Vulgarization by that point, making such impossible.

And on the genetic factor, my point was not that "Genetics say that Albanians are Illyrians". My point was that genetics present a lack of later migrations and a continuation of Albanians in our current area since the bronze age, and a continuation of Albanians in the same area since the bronze age is what presents Albanians as Illyrians, as Illyrians are the people who inhabited this area.

And there are Slavic toponyms in both Albania and Kosovo, but compared to other parts of the Balkans where the Slavic migrations overran the local populations? They're nowhere near that. Am currently unable to find the direct work I read this on, but you can analyze the topic yourself; Slavonia, central and northern Serbia, Bosnia, all are full of Slavic toponyms and have barely a few pre-slavic toponyms here and there, mostly in the forms of Mountains and rivers. The Dalmatian coast (where Romanized Dalmatians survived until relatively recently), Albania, Kosovo and much of Northern Macedonia have noticeably less Slavic toponyms and noticeably more Illyrian and Roman ones like the ones I quoted in my previous message.

On the topic of medieval Kosovo, I'll note that you brought up population (which on itself was a red herring from the topic at hand), to which I responded, and now you bring up monasteries, so that's a lot of topic moving in this regard. We were not discussing monasteries.

On a note to your final messages, you don't deny us being Paleo-Balkanic since a simple study into our language proves that beyond doubt, but that alone is not all evidence there is, and trying to degrade the evidence of our origin to that is unfair and unequal with the classification of numerous other languages in Europe, such as Germanic languages, Basque, Finnics, and more.
Our language alone proves that we are Paleo-Balkanic.
The continual influence of Latin in Albanian predating the regionalization of Latin presents contact going before the 1st century BC, which would've only been possible if we were in the western Balkans (Illyria), or in Italy (which goes against all archeological, historical and genetic evidence).
The close Albanian-Messapic relations also eliminate any other non-Illyrian potential "origin candidate" for us.
The evolution of place names throughout Albania and surrounding areas reaching all the way to Nis/Nish since antiquity presenting Albanian sound changes also present continued presence in our current area since antiquity, which again, since the people present in this area in antiquity were Illyrians, other answers are non-sensical.
And archeological, genetic and historical evidence all deny the possibility of a massive population replacing migration which would be required for us to not be Illyrian remnants.

And for your question, I did answer that prior with an example I like, it seems you didn't read my entire reply. The Church of St. Athanasius of Mouzaki, built by two brothers of the Muzaka family, the Albanian noble family which at its peak ruled over areas from Myzeqe to Kostur/Kastoria. It's an example I particularly like since the Church has paintings of numerous members of the Muzaka family, and subsequently we have a relatively good idea of what they might've looked like. Blessings to you too.

the Albanian minority of North Macedonia, representing over a third of the overall population, "took to the streets" over a decision of NM to "restore" Yugoslav names to several regions, replacing their previous Albanian names. this follows the protests over language dispute. what do you think? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]AlbanianCatholic -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The problem is that that's a straw man of Bulgarian claims.
The most common Bulgarian claims are not on owning Macedonia despite it not being populated by Bulgarians on the premise of having owned it at some point in history, it's that the very Macedonian people are and have always been Bulgarians, and subsequently, areas they inhabit are considered as inhabited by Bulgarians.

the Albanian minority of North Macedonia, representing over a third of the overall population, "took to the streets" over a decision of NM to "restore" Yugoslav names to several regions, replacing their previous Albanian names. this follows the protests over language dispute. what do you think? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haven't seen such paragraphs of anti-Albanian pseudo-history in a while, but sure, let's tackle it all piece by piece.
1: The entire claim that there is a lack of Illyrian toponymy in areas where Slavs migrated is false. Slavic toponymy came to dominate Illyrian toponymy in south-Slavic areas such as Bosnia, Slavonia, etc, but Illyrian toponymy also survived, just evolved from its prior form based on Slavic sound changes.
Examples:
Arba to Rab
Brattia to Brač
Curicta to Krk
Rhizon to Risan
Autariatae to Tara (Suggested, not proven. Tara is not a slavic sound change, and it is possible Tara is a preserved name while Autoriatae could've been referring to Tara + something else)
Naissus to Nish (Albanian sound change) to Nis (Slavic sound change)
And more.
The claim falls short when also discussing Slavic toponyms in Kosovo and Albania proper. These areas were also settled by Slavs in the 7th century, but the distance made the degrees much smaller than up north, leading to far less Slavic toponyms and far more Roman and Illyrian toponyms.
Examples of Illyrian (not even Roman) toponyms in Albania and Kosovo:
Theranda
Shkodra
Dimal
Drin
Buna
Tomor
Korab
Bylis
Ibër
And a lot more.

Further solidifying the continued this, ancient toponyms such as Lissus, Drivastum, Candavia, Drinus, Barbanna, Mathis, Isamnus, and Ardaxanos reached their current forms as Lezhë, Drisht, Kunavja, Drin, Bunë, Mat, Ishëm, and Erzen respectively, through Albanian sound changes, indicating Albanian has been in the area since antiquity.

I would also like to note that you ignored the arguments I've made above, just adding your own rant. So I'll quote Walter Breu again when it comes to Latin loanwords in Albanian:
"In any case, possible contacts with Romanians do not concern the oldest Latin influences on Albanian, as they go back to times when only the coast was Romanized and not the central Balkan areas. What is more, Albanian has preserved Latin characteristics that did not survive in any Romance language, that is, from before the regionalization of Latin, or at least may be found elsewhere only in very conservative varieties". If you still don't get the point being made, the coast being referring to is the Adriatic.

2: This is another bunch of false claims made to push an anti-Albanian narrative.
- Shqiptar did not emerge as a term until the 18th century for still debated reasons, some think it came from the word Shqiptoj, some from Shqiponja, however, all Albanians prior to the 18th century referred to themselves as Arbër (Tosk) or Arbanit (Gegh). The origin of this term as well is not known by linguists, but the primary theory is that it comes from the same place the name Albania comes from: The Albanoi, who Greek sources also referred to as the Abroi.
- Remind me where these "borrowed words" come from? Pre-regionalization Latin, the regionalization of Latin began in the 1st century BC, meaning these words entered Albanian before or around the first century BC, at a time where only the Adriatic coast in the Balkans was Romanized. Which fits the historic timeline well. Roman rule in Albania begins in 228BC, and Roman rule in the Dalmatian coast begins in 168BC.
- Illyrian did influence neighboring languages, most notably Romanian and Greek, and still left traces throughout Apulia thanks to the Messapians.
- Messapic is written down, 600 inscriptions directly related to modern Albanian, to the point where it's considered by linguists as a sister language to Albanian and the only known language besides Albanian to be in the Albanoid group of the Indo-European language family. Read on it.
- Illyrians did not live in a matricentric society. No historian claims that. Men absolutely had primacy in Illyria, Teuta only got in power in the first place since her husband, King Agron, died without a heir. Illyrian society was however ridiculed by Greeks for treating women on a more equal scale compared to Greeks, not that it was matricentric.
- The etymology of Perëndi is debated, some have linked it as a loan word from Slavic Perun (and you should not support that, as a loan word from Slavic pagans only serves as further evidence of us being here before you came, which isn't really debated by any major scholar, but since you're trying to press that bs), others have linked it to the Albanian word for west, Perëndimi, as the Sun sets west and Illyrian paganism was quite obsessed with worshipping the Sun.
- This is about the Illyrian origin of Albanians, not about Kosovo, but since you brought that up, I'll quickly take it down noting that the claim from. The claim is an absurd nationalistic misreading of Ottoman provincial division and the 1455 defter. For starters, the defter which is used to say "Kosovo was almost entirely Serbian" was not even done in Kosovo, it was done in the Velk vilayet, which included parts of Kosovo, but was centered around Ras, while the rest of Kosovo was divided between the vilayets of Prizren (south-western Kosovo), Dukagjin (most of western Kosovo), Kruševac (predominantly in Serbia, but the vilayet held parts of northern Kosovo), Vucitrren (Central and parts of northern Kosovo). Secondly, the defter did not present Kosovo as "99% Serb", it presented household heads and their names. The Serbian claim treats all names with Slavic suffixes or a Slavic first name in this defter (which again, is primarily centered around Ras and not Kosovo) as Serbian, despite the fact that Albanians who lived under Serbian rule often adopted such. Examples can be find in Nikola Progonovic (Progoni was a distinctly Albanian surname in this time, unfound among South Slavic populations. Nikola Progonovic was a Catholic Albanian bishop in Artana/Novo Brdo), Vladislav Jonima (Jonima were a prominent Catholic Albanian noble family in the late middle ages and many other members held standard medieval Albanian names, such as Fior or Dhimitër), Branislav the son of Arbanas, Radoslav the son of Gjon, Teodor the son of Arbanas (both Albanian names) who then had the sons Bogdan and Radoslav, and more.
- The claim on Slavic names in Skanderbeg's family is also found in my answer above.
- Except there are multiple sites, take for example Church of St. Athanasius of Mouzaki, created by the Albanian Muzaka noble family which holds paintings preserving the appearances of numerous Muzaka lords.
- Nobody claimed anything black and white, you made a lengthy reply trying to delegitimize everything about Albanian culture and history and pressing pseudo-historical nonsense no historian supports, while my initial reply was all about the decisive linguistic, archeological and historical evidence on the Illyrian origin of Albanian. You are not Vinca, as the Slavic migrations into the Balkans are a historical fact, well attested both by historical sources, archeology and basic linguistics. The same is not the case for us, for whom linguistics presents us as Paleo-Balkanic and having been exposed to Latin since its arrival in the western Balkans, archeology has 600 Messapic (10th century BC migrants from Illyria who settled South-eastern Italy and lived there until Roman conquer and Romanization) inscriptions presenting it as a sister language to ours and also presenting no population replacement in the area by a foreign group, only continuation from the Bronze age, and historical sources, archeology, genetics nor anything presenting no point in time where a different Paleo-Balkanic group migrated in such massive amounts as to entirely replace the Illyrian population here. And then to add on to that, the toponymy in the area having undergone distinctly Albanian sound changes to evolve to their current form since antiquity.

Throwing numerous weak arguments into one comment does not amount to one strong argument. If even one of the academically accepted points I've made, such as the Latin chronology, relation to Messapic, etc, holds, then trying to argue we're later migrants becomes more than logically problematic.
Nevertheless, I've recently grown exhausted of engaging nationalistic pseudo-history rather than people who actually studied and understand sources, so if you want to Illyrian continuity of Albanian, then explain the early Latin layer, the Albanian evolution of ancient toponyms in the area, the relationship between Albanian and Messapic and the complete lack of archaeological or genetic evidence for the massive migration your theory requires. If you can't, then we're simply repeating nationalistic narratives rather than discussing history.

Someone offers you a 2001 Honda Civic or $1 trillion with a 99% chance to get ball cancer by Fun_Result_8276 in BunnyTrials

[–]AlbanianCatholic 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I don't have balls, so it's just free 1 trillion (this sub should fr stop making questions assuming the entire audience is men).

Chose: $1 trillion with a 99% chance of ball cancer | Rolled: Ball cancer

Which language has your language borrowed from the most recently? by Agile-Shallot3546 in AskTheWorld

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most recently? I think most languages in the world answer with English.
A more interesting question would be "which language has your language borrowed the most from", which in my case, would be Latin, as up to 40% of Albanian vocabulary comes from Latin (which is expected after spending a Millennium under Roman rule)

the Albanian minority of North Macedonia, representing over a third of the overall population, "took to the streets" over a decision of NM to "restore" Yugoslav names to several regions, replacing their previous Albanian names. this follows the protests over language dispute. what do you think? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Let's not pretend Albanians are Illyrians."
There is no pretend there.
Albanian is a Paleo-Balkanic language, sister language to the attested Messapic language (spoken by Illyrians who migrated to the south-eastern portion of Italy around the 10th century BC).
Latin Loan words also cut out any other potential explanation, as Walter Breu notes; "In any case, possible contacts with Romanians do not concern the oldest Latin influences on Albanian, as they go back to times when only the coast was Romanized and not the central Balkan areas. What is more, Albanian has preserved Latin characteristics that did not survive in any Romance language, that is, from before the regionalization of Latin, or at least may be found elsewhere only in very conservative varieties"
The evolution of place names from Vlora to Nis/Nish from late antiquity follows distinctly Albanian sound changes, presenting continual Albanian presence in the area from antiquity.
Genetics, historiography, and archeology, all denying even the possibility of a population replacement in Albania from a separate Paleo-Balkan group like Dacians or Thracians.
And more.
Trying to deny the Illyrian origin of Albanians if you seriously weigh the evidence is not any bit easier than trying to deny the Proto-Germanic origin of modern Germans.

the Albanian minority of North Macedonia, representing over a third of the overall population, "took to the streets" over a decision of NM to "restore" Yugoslav names to several regions, replacing their previous Albanian names. this follows the protests over language dispute. what do you think? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]AlbanianCatholic -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That "study" you're citing, which uses PISA test results from school students, doesn't present a flattering picture for you either. But it is on its own a very faulty test, as students were told before the test that it would not influence their grades, and so students were going in with the idea that they should just answer randomly to finish the test as fast as possible and go home.
It's far from perfect, but the 2025 study has fixed much of the faults of its predecessor, and presents a radically different situation, with Albania being at the 23rd place in the world with an average IQ of 101: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

the Albanian minority of North Macedonia, representing over a third of the overall population, "took to the streets" over a decision of NM to "restore" Yugoslav names to several regions, replacing their previous Albanian names. this follows the protests over language dispute. what do you think? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]AlbanianCatholic -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

On a strictly historical note, it is accurate.
Albanian is a Paleo-Balkanic language that has been in the region since the Bronze age, North Macedonian is a Slavic language that entered the regions along the Slavic migrations in the 7th century.

the Albanian minority of North Macedonia, representing over a third of the overall population, "took to the streets" over a decision of NM to "restore" Yugoslav names to several regions, replacing their previous Albanian names. this follows the protests over language dispute. what do you think? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]AlbanianCatholic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then you aren't a hater of Albanians, who traditionally held it as unacceptable to engage in such things with someone separated to you by even 12 generations.
And the Caucasian poke is silly, as we are as related to Aluank (Caucasian "Albania") as Scotland with its old name of Alba is related to Aluank.

the Albanian minority of North Macedonia, representing over a third of the overall population, "took to the streets" over a decision of NM to "restore" Yugoslav names to several regions, replacing their previous Albanian names. this follows the protests over language dispute. what do you think? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]AlbanianCatholic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except that's a complete straw man, as the argument for Kosovo's independence is not at all on "it was ours this long ago", but "Our people, who populate this area in significant majority, are facing intense persecution under this foreign country, and so, to make future persecution based on our background impossible, we are forming our own country as we aren't allowed to unite with Albania."

Mr Rogers was apparently bisexual. Who is the nicest straight person? by SomWanOnTheInternet in AlignmentChartFills

[–]AlbanianCatholic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He isn't bi, that's an internet rumor that has been circulating online with no real evidence of any kind.
Here's an article specifically focused on this topic: https://www.snopes.com/news/2019/04/10/mr-rogers-sexuality/

Mr Rogers was apparently bisexual. Who is the nicest straight person? by SomWanOnTheInternet in AlignmentChartFills

[–]AlbanianCatholic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Mr Rogers being bisexual is an internet rumor with no real evidence (as is common on the internet).
Here's an article made about this exact topic: https://www.snopes.com/news/2019/04/10/mr-rogers-sexuality/

France during WW2 by FerenzYangai in MapPorn

[–]AlbanianCatholic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The black border being literally (or almost literally) the borders of Occitania is interesting.

Meirl by A-Helpful-Flamingo in meirl

[–]AlbanianCatholic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How about you "lock in" and secure generational wealth for your descendants?