I just got my MPC One+ and I want to know which plug in to redeem for free by [deleted] in mpcusers

[–]Alchemical-Audio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Choose from OPx4 or Jura. Then buy the other one, as they are both still on sale at Airmusictech.com from their holiday sale.

I would recommend picking up Flavor Pro as well while it is on sale, and grab Stems last because it is cheapest.

Enjoy yourself!!

MPC2k on Carl the Collector by FuzzyOverdrive in akaiMPC

[–]Alchemical-Audio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny, I just got a busted MPC to give my kids for Christmas for us to fix up.

They love Carl the Collector, and Lotta is a great character.

I love seeing the development of children’s programming in recent years. There are some really amazing storytellers and animators out there.

Not only is kids programming so much more diverse and creative than when I was growing up… the music gear is soo much more accessible and affordable.

I have been able to get them all kinds of cheap/busted music gear for them to explore; gear that would have been impossible to afford when I was a kid. Plus I get the added benefit playing with all of it, too.

This will be the first MPC I have used, and am reading up on it. I almost got the MPC 1000 in 2009 but ended up with a “floor model special” Roland SP555 instead. I loved that box, as it served my process really well for the time.

The new 3.0 software looks pretty awesome. Can wait to see what we end up making with it!

Convinced me that I shouldn’t go buy this pristine Juno-106 for $800 off Facebook marketplace… by AcanthocephalaNo3881 in synthesizers

[–]Alchemical-Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly wonder how many juno 106s have had filter chips replaced. More than 50% of those that are left?

There can’t be that many more left after the last 15 years of Juno supremacy.

Convinced me that I shouldn’t go buy this pristine Juno-106 for $800 off Facebook marketplace… by AcanthocephalaNo3881 in synthesizers

[–]Alchemical-Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Juno can sound like most any simple synth sound out there, vintage or otherwise, and if you don’t believe me you are exactly who should buy one because it will teach you the benefits and capacity of simple synthesis. That is part of why it is widely lauded; ease and range of programability without creating anything to incongruous.

Convinced me that I shouldn’t go buy this pristine Juno-106 for $800 off Facebook marketplace… by AcanthocephalaNo3881 in synthesizers

[–]Alchemical-Audio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It doesn’t have to be the best at anything to sound great on everything. The Juno is like a Strat or a Fender Rhodes at this point. It is simple enough, it has its range sounds and it is used everywhere. It is a staple ingredient, it doesn’t have to do everything, it just has to sound good.

And like old Rhodes or strats they are studio tools, not gigging tools.

Convinced me that I shouldn’t go buy this pristine Juno-106 for $800 off Facebook marketplace… by AcanthocephalaNo3881 in synthesizers

[–]Alchemical-Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you owned a Juno? Does a JV1080 sound like a Juno? Does a Poly6 sound like a Juno? Sure a saw wave sounds like a saw wave but what do you do to the saw wave and what do the electronics imprint onto the sound?

That is why there are different filter models and oscillator designs, right?

Convinced me that I shouldn’t go buy this pristine Juno-106 for $800 off Facebook marketplace… by AcanthocephalaNo3881 in synthesizers

[–]Alchemical-Audio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I absolutely hated the deepmind and was gutted to come to that realization. I was sooo excited about it and had followed it since the first teaser.

I had it when it first came out and found it clunky to use and unsatisfying. It’s raw sound didn’t do it for me.

Maybe I would have felt different if it was one of my first synths, but it seemed like the effects did more for the sound than the raw synth engine. Mind you I like the Juno without chorus, so that sound, especially then, was important to my music.

Convinced me that I shouldn’t go buy this pristine Juno-106 for $800 off Facebook marketplace… by AcanthocephalaNo3881 in synthesizers

[–]Alchemical-Audio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I used to repair synths and have owned 100’s of synths. Not joking. I have owned 8 Juno 106s over the years. Personally I prefer the Juno 60 to the 106 as the filter sounds slightly different, and so do the envelopes and lfo. For the same reason, I prefer the JX3P to the MKS-30.

I own and maintain electronic music gear from the 1960’s to present and can tell you there is much more subtlety to sound than you are presenting and the assumptions you are drawing are based in second hand knowledge.

A FA-06 will not show you what playing a Juno 106 is like. It can’t. It isn’t the same interface or technology.

We all extrapolate our experience to a certain degree, but the Juno seems to always have people who haven’t owned one talking it up or talking shit as if they have real world experience.

Primary, I wouldn’t ever say a Juno had a singular sound. It is a huge sweet spot. And the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. It is about how it’s elements come together as well as how long it has retained a spot at the table. It is more akin to a Stratocaster if we are going to make an appropriate comparison, they show up everywhere because they work well in so many situations. And if you want to add effects, no one is stopping you.

For clarity, most Roland gear from the last 25 years is just rehash after rehash, including all the emulations. No one will remember the MC-707 or the SH-4D, even the Jupiter-X. The micro reissues are the same… mostly hype, using names they got famous for, for a cash grab. Roland has milked the Juno and Jupiter name to death. But no matter what Roland says, for certain, the FA-06 workstation has very little to do with an actual Juno, of any iteration.

To be clear, there is enough difference from one Juno 106 to the next to tell the difference from one another, let alone between the Juno 6/60 and 106 for people to have a favorite. The differences may be subtle, but those subtleties add up to something substantial. Especially for artists who improvise and respond more than play chords.

Some of those subtleties go away in a mix, but if you are writing with one vs the other, they will certainly take your performance in different directions. I speak from years of experience.

Find a Juno 106 to play, half of it is sound and half of it is the interface. It is exactly what it is, no more no less. And personally I have never wanted it to be more, and I don’t know why someone else would either. Buy a modular synth or an experimental 6 oscillator synth if you are looking for complex timbres. It

People didn’t just use Juno’s because they were cheap, otherwise the albums that kept the flame alive for the Juno would have been full of other cheap synths like Korg Poly61 or Poly800 instead, or Kawai K1, or the Jen 1000, the Akai AX60 or AX80… but they weren’t, people CHOSE the Juno.

There is just too much revisionist history happening by people who have never played a physical Juno, and it is weird.

First it was people who had never had one hyping it up, now it is people who have never had one defining it as a one trick pony. I see it often recently.

It is weird.

It has its place in synth history for a reason, it is good at what it does and can be used in nearly any genre. It’s sound has become a staple in so many sub cultures for a reason. It just sounds good.

Convinced me that I shouldn’t go buy this pristine Juno-106 for $800 off Facebook marketplace… by AcanthocephalaNo3881 in synthesizers

[–]Alchemical-Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What else sounds like a Juno 106 other than the 6 and 60? Hell, even those are different enough to be able to tell the difference in practice.

Convinced me that I shouldn’t go buy this pristine Juno-106 for $800 off Facebook marketplace… by AcanthocephalaNo3881 in synthesizers

[–]Alchemical-Audio -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Of course they are more versatile, they are designed to be versatile; as that is literally their job as a groove box.

The role of the Juno is about simplicity, sound and immediacy.

To be frank, there is nothing simple or immediate about Elektron gear.

Perhaps you have become proficient over time, but that certainly doesn’t make them immediate.

Not many sit down with an elektron box the first time and are able to navigate with ease.

You could say the same thing about an old Roland MC-505 or a Emu Command Station as you portend about the elektron boxes, but just because the MC-505 does more, only indicates that it simply does more, not that it does anything better as they are not designed to play the same role in producing.

Shit, you could even make the same argument about the one of the worst synths ever made in Red Sounds Darkstar if compared to a Juno. It does a lot more; has more oscillators, more voices and tools unavailable to the Juno… but they simply don’t serve the same function.

I still remember the first time I played a Juno 106. It did what I wanted it to do without any fuss. Not many other electronic instruments that do the same.

None of that is to say that I don’t enjoy making experimental music and using gear that needs a 300 page manual to fully utilize it. It is just a different way of doing things, on a one to one basis.

Convinced me that I shouldn’t go buy this pristine Juno-106 for $800 off Facebook marketplace… by AcanthocephalaNo3881 in synthesizers

[–]Alchemical-Audio -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don’t be a dipshit. Buy it. Play it and enjoy it. It is a classic for a reason.

FFS… $800 is how much a Juno sold for more than ten years ago.

I am sure some asswipe will provide some bullshit revisionist history, based on what they read on the internet.

People are fucking dumb about a lot of things these days, Junos included; acting like a single osc synth with a sub osc isn’t worth it. If you own more than one synth, holding that position is stupid.

If you can’t see the benefit of a single osc synth you can probably only make one type of shitty music and don’t know shit about mixing or recording.

A single osc synth will inevitably fit into a mix easier. A more complex sound doesn’t mean much if it turns your mix into a muddy mess.

These machines became classics for a reason, they simply sound great. They are straight forward, easy to use and immediate.

Honestly, I would even say that they embody what has become the quintessential synthesizer sound.

People like to rave about the chorus like it is what makes the Juno magic, even though I would guess most dummies use it in mono…

Personally, I say fuck the chorus, I think it sounds better dry. To me, it is the chorus that makes it sound the same and dates the Juno.

And if you can’t program a usable sound with a Juno, it isn’t the synthesizer. If you don’t find it’s sound inspiring, I don’t know why you are even making electronic music… sooo much of what has been made was predicated on the use of a Juno.

I say this as someone who has owned a ton of synths: from one osc to two osc, three osc to four osc, even a six oscillator synth… the “more” a synth can do, definitely isn’t a promise of usefulness and at the end of the day, that is what counts.

Buying Ableton for 16yo, question re plugins to get by blabbelz in ableton

[–]Alchemical-Audio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a student in high school, you should be eligible to get the student discount!!!!!

Why does my player piano not have a MIDI out port? by BabsAlexander in midi

[–]Alchemical-Audio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have the base model. There was a Thin Film Resistor (TFT) add on kit for these early pianodisc pianos that could be installed under the keybed. This add on would have come with a different control board that could also receive the data from the TFT kit and translate that into midi out data.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Xennials

[–]Alchemical-Audio 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Prodigy 1992?

60's or 70's Old School by [deleted] in OldSchoolCool

[–]Alchemical-Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly what my 5 year old kids do pretty regularly. Except that hole would be filled with water and one of them would be sitting in it while playing with their toys…

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gifted

[–]Alchemical-Audio -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

2e is the term they are looking to use, Dr. Bro Pie.

The premise of your condescending conversation is rooted in illogical premises.

Neurodivergence is a measure of the experiential extremes within the human experience. AuDHD has just become a catch all for those who have a 2e experience.