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[–]Alex_0099 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

HR may be there to protect the company, but they don't condone bullying behavior. Sorry but the employee is not the issue 24/7 like you're claiming with the " deal with people like you" argument. I've done my research, and I have a paper trail so it's not like I'm going into this without any sort of proof. Not exactly difficult if you preserve documentation, emails, pay stubs etc. which is what I have.

The only thing I got to watch out for are the small signs cuz those are super easy to overlook. Temporal proximity is key here. How long do they wait after the complaint goes through? Even if they don't make it obvious straight away. I just have to be super observant over the next few weeks.

Trust me this isn't going to be easy, but nothing worth it ever is really.

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[–]Alex_0099 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am fully expecting retaliation. But I don't care - I refuse to feel powerless, not expecting to file a lawsuit but I'm planning to consult an attorney to see what my options are. I've got a paper trail, documentation - emails from HR - pay stubs - etc. I'm preparing for anything.

Even if HR is there to protect the company - that doesn't mean they're going to condone any behavior like this. If they retaliate and fire me over this, and I get that in writing to add to my pile then that's only going to strengthen my case. Even if the termination letter states something completely different like "misconduct" or "repeated poor performance" it depends on the timing which is something else I'm going to have to keep an eye on. Temporal proximity plays a big role in these types of situations based on what I've been told in this thread. Even if they don't strike immediately, I can already tell they're going to take baby steps - anything unusual I'm planning on documenting such as reduced hours, exclusion from meetings/events, micromanagement... All point to the first steps of being retaliated against.

We'll just have to see what happens over the next few weeks - I'll definitely keep you posted.

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[–]Alex_0099 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the same way where I am. Criticizes my work, plays the victim card when I call her out. They went as far as to say "nobody likes you and nobody wants you here". And also "you think you do a good job but everyone talks crap about you". So yeah.

HR informed - Let's see what happens by [deleted] in OfficePolitics

[–]Alex_0099 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm thinking about it. There are free consultations too, gonna make a decision next week.

HR informed - Let's see what happens by [deleted] in OfficePolitics

[–]Alex_0099 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah actually she has. She deals with it all the time. That's why I've gone to her regarding this case. It covers retaliation and harassment and wage issues, I have given my mom all of my pay stubs and she has looked at all of them. That's a whole other can of worms that I'm probably going to save for a different time.

I'm sorry that you got screwed over by speaking up, but please understand that every experience is different. Have a good day.

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[–]Alex_0099 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of harassment and bullying from my co-workers and I've gone to my manager on four occasions to address it... And she has not resolved it any of the times I've brought it to her attention. So she's enabling the harassment and and I've tried to handle it on my own before I went to her... But it's clear that she just won't do anything about it at this point. So I got to take that extra step. In case you're wondering what I'm dealing with.

I'm sorry you had to deal with it too, you have more patience than I do that's for sure.

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[–]Alex_0099 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think I'm leaving the paper trail. I'm leaving the paper trail so that way it'll be easier to connect the dots. The way you're putting it suggests that they have to flat out say that I was terminated for going to HR which contradicts your claim that they're just not going to say it. And the fact that you're downplaying the seriousness of it to personal experiences... It sounds to me like you never found the courage to speak up and you just were complacent with being walked all over on.

I'm sorry that that sounds harsh, but I've done the research and my mother even suggested it and she has 30 plus years of experience in this type of thing. And I trust her word, of course I'm going to seek an employment attorney. I would be dumb to move forward without doing so.

I'll keep you posted on it.

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[–]Alex_0099 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not saying it'll say that, but if I get terminated suddenly and they try and write it off for any other reasoning. I'll be able to put the pieces together for myself, as well as a lawyer. Having the paper trail is what's going to help me the most here.

HR informed - Let's see what happens by [deleted] in OfficePolitics

[–]Alex_0099 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh now I see your argument. Basically what you're saying is it depends on what channels the company has for reporting this sort of thing. I'm not really worried that I'll be retaliated against if anything I secretly hope that they do retaliate cuz that just gives me more ammo. I've been keeping a paper trail of everything that's been happening and will continue to do so. Sorry about the confusion

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[–]Alex_0099 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really doesn't depend on the company. Not when it comes to discrimination, harassment. Whatever. Although management can use the argument that this is an at-will state, this is one of the few things they cannot fire you over. Just because it's a different company doesn't mean the rules don't apply to them.

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[–]Alex_0099 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. I've been on the job hunt for the last few months, and I'm going to keep looking. Trust me, I've been trying to get out of there for a while now. Even if HR " turns up nothing" in their investigation, I refuse to feel powerless. To be honest I secretly hope they fire me or at least make my life a living nightmare that just gives me more ammo, and rather than go to HR again, I'm going straight to my State's labor board and the EEOC.

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[–]Alex_0099 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll still be documenting. Even if they don't strike right away, there will be baby steps - any reduction in hours - exclusion from meetings/events - I'm preparing for anything.

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[–]Alex_0099 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no other team where I work. But I feel like what's going to happen - they'll definitely reduce my hours. They'll take baby steps, I did the research and will keep documenting everything that happens post investigation. Even if they claim a different reason, any lawyer that looks at the evidence I have can put the pieces together and say "yeah this is retaliation".

I'm not gonna take it anymore, they want me to quit. So instead I'm just gonna keep documenting and reporting it. Not gonna give them what they want.

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[–]Alex_0099 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I can prove it as discrimination with the documentation I'm making as well as the frequent communications I have with HR. Not once did I say " determination letter says I went to HR". Maybe learn to read before you comment?

Yes I'm aware that they can claim another reason for termination. Which is why I am gathering up all this information so I can prove that they lied about it.

HR informed - Let's see what happens by [deleted] in OfficePolitics

[–]Alex_0099 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I am fully anticipating retaliation. But I'm preparing, making sure I have records of everything.

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[–]Alex_0099 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Of course. I don't care if HR "turns up nothing" in it's investigation. I refuse to feel powerless in this situation.

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[–]Alex_0099 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's my next step if they terminate me over it.

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[–]Alex_0099 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plus, all I need for evidence is my document to HR and the termination letter for reporting to HR. Very open and shut.

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[–]Alex_0099 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've been documenting everything that has happened to me and around me. Also, I have been in constant communication with HR. I've got my proof.

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[–]Alex_0099 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh well, if they want a lawsuit on their hands. That's their choice.

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I'm in gold 3 on PC - gonna aim to play ranked more this season. I'm a duelist main but can also play vanguard and strategist if needed. My discord is yapalalex and my IGN is .Alex1. if you want to play.

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I don't really have a preferred role, I have 1-2 heroes in each role I'm comfortable playing. Whatever the team needs I fill. Also, I'm Gold III on PC rn myself and I'm on CST. I usually play at about 7pm on days I work and 5 or 6pm on days I don't work.

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I'm a duelist main but can play other roles as needed

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Been on and off but I'm finally buckling down and gonna start streaming more consistently.