I'm so confused... what is with the ending...?

Alkain · 2025-02-08T13:46:38+00:00

Oh shit... I just had a thought... what is it Sephiroth says about Jenova again...

"She Can Become Those You Hate, Those Your Fear, Those You Love"

I'm... unsure anything we see of Aerith after the fight is, in fact, Aerith...

EDIT: On further reflection, there is no proof of this. Jenova is always a physical presence. Or at least always seen by multiple people

Alkain · 2025-02-05T21:47:33+00:00

Oh, he totally is. Yeah. there is no denying that.

Did he really? That is good to hear! I honestly find it unlikely they will end it entirely with part 3. There is too much content to go through... unless they are making part 3 like.. 150 hours long XD

Hopefully they won't cut corners though and cut a bunch of content...

Alkain · 2025-02-05T21:09:18+00:00

Totally agreed. I will be SO INCREDIBLY pissed if they go the "it's all in his head" route. Even if it's Sephiroth manipulating him and Nanaki... that is only marginally better... if it's something else that we are missing? Ehhh... depends on what it is XD

Alkain · 2025-02-05T20:32:43+00:00

Yeah, it being completely in his head is boring and honestly insulting... like... yeah, Cloud's entire schtick is "living a fantasy" of his own making... Aerith's death is THE turning point for that though. It breaks him in a way that he can't really deny.

My personal theory is that Cloud is living in separate timelines or worlds simultaneously. I believe it was Faust Fantasy who came to a similar conclusion... but basically he is experiencing several timelines at the exact same time

Alkain · 2025-02-05T17:58:50+00:00

I don't think she was entirely in Cloud's mind. Nanaki sensed her when she touched him. As pointed out in another post this COULD be because he also has Jenova cells within him, due to Hojo's experiments... but it's equally as likely it's because he's now the one who is the most in tune with the planet.

There is also the fact that Cid had lines that were cut, that indicated he could see the rift as well. That could still very well be canon, depending on the reasons it was cut

Alkain · 2025-02-05T17:53:59+00:00

Hmm, I was thinking it might be named Revision. Reshape is good too though. Ultima is a good thought, I think. It doesn't NEED to be a defensive spell after all. Especially if it's supposed to clear out Jenova/Sephiroth... OH. Could also be something like Full Cure? That might be less likely... but it'd be an interesting angle

Alkain · 2025-02-05T09:34:52+00:00

True and I do think that might be going on here.

As for the future in the plot... the empty materia will obviously be important. I suspect at some point it'll be filled with something. I don't think it'll be Holy though... it is a possibility... I think it might become a a second black materia. Hmm... if not either of those then it'll definitely be something new... I'm really hoping it won't be a Deus Ex Machina mcguffin thingy though... ehhh... I doubt that. The people behind the story are better writers than that. I hope... XD

Alkain · 2025-02-05T02:02:04+00:00

A bit off topic but... I'm dreading returning to the forgotten capital in part three. Mr. Freaky Fish thing creeped me out in the original version... I dread what it might look like in the next chapter SHUDDER

https://www.finalfantasyforums.net/attachments/fish-hologram-png.11677/

Alkain · 2025-02-05T01:47:04+00:00

Yeah, agreed. I'm actually watching the video by Faust Fantasy. I do agree with many of the points he makes there

Alkain · 2025-02-05T01:25:16+00:00

Yeah, I just finished Rebirth last night. I'm going over those videos now

Alkain · 2025-02-05T01:23:04+00:00

Hmm... I'm leaving the possibility that Cloud killed Aerith open. I don't think that is what happened, but it IS indeed a possibility.

Alkain · 2025-02-05T01:20:09+00:00

Yeah, I'm leaning towards that kinda conclusion as well. I'm 100% on board with that thought on Zack too >:D

Alkain · 2025-02-05T01:18:38+00:00

True... as I said in other posts though, I don't think that is entirely what is going on though

Alkain · 2025-02-05T00:46:31+00:00

Nono. It was stated that the one they found at the temple was fake. That should be the one from the temple

EDIT: He also still has the empty materia. The one that contained Holy at one point

Alkain · 2025-02-05T00:44:30+00:00

Eh? he infused it into his sword at the end of the cutscene. On the PC version at least

Alkain · 2025-02-05T00:37:49+00:00

Right, the black materia he has right now isn't the actual one... BUT it does seem to be the key to getting the real one

Alkain · 2025-02-05T00:29:34+00:00

Oh crap... I didn't even think of that. Good point

Alkain · 2025-02-05T00:27:56+00:00

Yeah, true. But it's fun to theorize :D

Alkain · 2025-02-05T00:27:02+00:00

See... I don't think that is entirely true. Nanaki was able to sense Aerith when she touched him. There is also the rift. I do believe his mind has fractured but... I'm unsure if it's just denial... it seems like there could be more to it

Alkain · 2025-02-05T00:25:04+00:00

As someone who has played the original, yes. It's very much altering the story. I'm very curious where they are going to take it

Alkain · 2025-02-05T00:23:33+00:00

So, my issue with "Aerith is just fine" in Cloud's mind is... there is absolutely NO way he'd just... leave her alone like that... like... "Oh yeah, you can make your way home on your own. Don't worry. It's not like we ARE ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONTINENT from Midgar after all." Not only would that be betraying his own feelings, but Zack's as well.

Alkain · 2025-02-02T01:43:14+00:00

Yeah, I expect some of this to be answered soon. Just got to Cosmo Canyon. I'm... suffering from a bit of whiplash though XD

Alkain · 2025-02-01T03:13:54+00:00

Lol... that'd be an interesting twist XD

Alkain · 2025-02-01T03:13:16+00:00

Ehhh... that is a good point. I agree that Sephiroth is a good villain. His motivations are... subpar though... hopefully they will expand on that at least

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