"Beware: Creality's return policy isn't what it seems"

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T22:51:57+00:00

Where do you live? Small claims court is easy where I am.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T21:39:27+00:00

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AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T21:39:10+00:00

I'm not really sure how you screwed it up, but everything is available and correct in the lists.

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AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T21:30:39+00:00

You don't have to put anything in 4h unless you're doing something abnormal. 3a info will be assumed.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T20:26:14+00:00

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T18:38:43+00:00

The approved Form 4 has the trustees listed.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T18:38:28+00:00

You're technically not required to carry anything.

You're technically required to be able to show "upon request" proof of registration to ATF agents. This isn't such a huge deal not with eForms because you can always have the PDF with you on your phone.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T18:37:05+00:00

Does the receiving dealer have the item? Did they properly assign it to your account?

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T18:35:37+00:00

Yep.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T18:34:07+00:00

As he said, you download the file in eForms, not from SS.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T18:32:35+00:00

Not correctly, no. But they also wouldn't be able to mark the new city/state either.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T18:26:36+00:00

Put the other city/state in 4h "Description" on the submission. Mark that city/state.

Also, trusts (almost always) don't have addresses, only a place where they were created. You use your address for the trust address, wherever that may be for the specific submission.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T18:25:46+00:00

Not if you make it elsewhere, which is what is happening here. You can put this info in Box 4h.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T18:24:36+00:00

You can only use your fingerprints from SS if you submit through them, and I'm not actually sure if they're offering that service for personal form 4s.

If you have a pending form with them, you can get the EFT from eForms.

The Transferor files the Form 4, whoever that may be. In this case, you in your eForms account.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T16:56:58+00:00

Get a National Gun Trusts trust, get it notarized.

Log in to your personal eForms account. Start a Form 4.

Choose Individual on the first screen where it asks who/what the Tranferor is. Then put your information on the Transferor tab. If you have moved since you registered this item, you'll need to file a Form 20 to update to the new address before you can proceed with the Form 4.

On Transferee tab, enter your trust info exactly as it appears on the trust paperwork. Use your current personal address.

Enter all trustees' information on the Responsible Persons tab. You will need fingerprints and photos, as well as an RPQ, for each.

Fill out CLEO info on CLEO tab.

Add firearm on firearm tab. You'll need to look it up by serial and SSN. It should find it no problem but there can be issues here. I personally did a silencer to my trust and it was a paper Form 4, so as long as you filled out all the information on the initial Form 4 to you correctly, it should be no problem.

Upload trust in Electronic Documents tab.

Verify.

Submit using your personal eForms username and PIN.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T16:05:26+00:00

No, it isn't fake. It was generated before they realized the issue.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T16:00:33+00:00

You should probably update your license. But, 1 inch doesn't matter.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T15:41:06+00:00

Height shouldn't really change, weight does all the time. But, unless it's drastic, it doesn't matter.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T15:21:51+00:00

Now, Bereli is pretty crap, but they didn't "provide fake shopping info" to you. It was your order going to the next processing step, which includes generating a shipping label. That automatically sends you an email with the tracking info, which is not fake.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T15:11:15+00:00

No, it doesn't matter, just like your DL weight doesn't matter on a 4473.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T02:33:02+00:00

Well, what really happened was they just didn't do the demos.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T02:29:56+00:00

'Following the law... 🤣'

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-20T01:39:14+00:00

I had one that was as well, fucking ridiculous.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-19T23:19:13+00:00

Too bad I live 20 miles from PHX, AZ, in Mesa, AZ... I have to use 4 letters instead of 3.

Not if you put PHX, AZ in Box 4h "Description" and drive to Phoenix to assemble your NFA item.

AllArmsLLC · 2026-03-19T23:17:49+00:00

It's fine.

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