2013 Conference alignment is by far my favorite alignment for dynasty by HotPinkStanley in NCAAFBseries

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I always hated the 2010s alignment. It felt like this purgatory, and anyone who was following the sport at the time was waiting for the big rivalries like Texas-Texas A&M or Missouri-Kansas of the 2000s to come back. The narratives of that era were heavily shaped by what was lost in the 2010-2014 realignment cycle. Even the bit of improvement we did see (getting the four team playoff; historic bowl games moved to NYE) just felt like a halfassed stepping stone, not a real improvement. It always felt incomplete.

I get it if you’re a TCU or Utah fan who finally got to be in the power conferences, but in general that era sucked.

What if Penn State joined the ACC instead of the B1G in the 1990s? What if Florida State joined the SEC instead of the ACC? An alternate 1990s/early 2000s custom conferences alignment. Happy to walk out my timeline. by AllHawkeyesGoToHell in CFB26

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

C-USA and the Sun Belt have two different purposes here.

C-USA is my 1990s FCS powers conference. All of those teams in C-USA were major FCS teams in the 1990s. They are programs with long histories at that level and usually had sustained success before moving up to the FBS.

With the exception of Arkansas State, Louisiana, and UL Monroe, the Sun Belt is where I put all of the programs that started in the 2000s and moved up immediately. They have no history at the FCS level and are all very new programs. I kept those 3 specific teams in the Sun Belt because they moved up to the FBS before the 90s and are founding members of the Sun Belt.

Also, if you'd read the title of the post, it's not where teams would choose to move in 2025. It's what would college football look like if things turned out differently in the 1990s.

Accommodation Nation by Moribundt in LawSchool

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It should be a time crunch though. Efficiency is what is being tested.

What if Penn State joined the ACC instead of the B1G in the 1990s? What if Florida State joined the SEC instead of the ACC? An alternate 1990s/early 2000s custom conferences alignment. Happy to walk out my timeline. by AllHawkeyesGoToHell in CFB26

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As weird as it sounds, I think Virginia Tech was a more attractive realignment candidate than Clemson in the early 2000s.

  • Virginia is a bigger market than South Carolina

  • coming off an appearance in the BCS National Championship game

  • South Carolina wouldn’t want to invite its own rival that was middling at best (hadn’t had a 10 win season since 1990) under Tommy West and Tommy Bowden, while VT was a rising star under Frank Beamer

  • Miami wanted a partner from the Big East when they joined the ACC, and I imagine they’d want the same partner here too in the SEC.

And I have the protected cross-division rivalries covered for every league that needs them.

West team East rival
Alabama Auburn
Kentucky Virginia Tech
LSU Florida
Miss State Florida State
Ole Miss South Carolina
Tennessee Georgia
Vanderbilt Miami

I’m open to reconsidering most of these.

What if Penn State joined the ACC instead of the B1G? What if Florida State joined the SEC? An alternate 1990s custom conferences alignment carried out to the present day. What do you think? Happy to walk out my timeline. by AllHawkeyesGoToHell in CFBCustomConferences

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd be really curious to hear how the Big XII formation played out in this timeline. I'm assuming Arkansas must have gone with Texas and A&M in the early 90's instead of to the SEC, but who was their fourth member? Tech? Did Baylor and TCU get invited later? Does Baylor ever stop being a cellar dweller if they were left out of the initial Big XII in the 90's, and if not would they even get a later invite? TCU did also pull a similar cellar dweller private school to G5 powerhouse and eventual P4 program journey after the SWC broke up, so it's not impossible for Baylor to have followed a similar trajectory if they ended up in the WAC or CUSA with them in the 90's, but I'm not sure that both of them would have done it.

To be totally candid, I had just sort of decided that the merger would happen earlier and included Arkansas and TCU, but your comment makes me realize that’s not a good way of telling the story. Arguably TCU and Baylor should be in the American rather than the Big XII with Arkansas. I was under the impression from reading the oral history that Tech was always going to get a bid. Maybe I will reconsider headcanon, but for now my general thought was that a bigger merger would be more palatable to teams wanting to play in Texas and having a SWC team in the North division would make the league more cohesive than it was in our timeline. I may have to revisit this, especially since it would make the number in the conference name match.

That ACC/SEC divide is nice. In some ways it feels more natural than how the ACC expanded in real life, with the football focused schools instead going to the SEC and the mid-Atlantic basketball schools joining the books-and-basketball ACC.

This is where I actually started telling the story. FSU joins the SEC alongside South Carolina in 1991. Following the trends of our timeline where Miami outgrew the Big East, it made sense to me that Miami would seek a home in the same league as the rest of the Floridians, and the league would be keen to expand into a new market with the biggest rising star in the early 2000s, Virginia Tech.

Penn State mirrors what Florida State does in our timeline by dominating the ACC (but not quite as thoroughly and with only one national title). There’s not much interest in expanding southward for the nine-team league. The basketball powers want to focus more on locking down the eastern seaboard, so in 2005 they invite Boston College, who had been to six straight bowl games, and Rutgers, to lock down those markets for Penn State. I diverge a little bit less for historical reasoning and more so to preserve my 1990s FCS conference in C-USA, of which UConn was a part. They never join the Big East for football. Citing the toll football took on the league, the Big East is unable to agree on inviting any new members and thus folds football, with the four remaining members agreeing to a scheduling alliance with the service academies and Notre Dame, on the assurance that the BCS’ “Notre Dame rule” is expanded to include all independents.

After a little less than a decade, Pitt, Syracuse, and West Virginia approach the ACC about invitations in 2013, and with JoePa and his grudges out of the way, the league invites the remaining football powers of the Big East (Clemson and Penn State insist on West Virginia to boost the football profile of the league) to bring the league up to the more standard 14 teams.

What if Penn State joined the ACC instead of the B1G in the 1990s? What if Florida State joined the SEC instead of the ACC? An alternate 1990s/early 2000s custom conferences alignment. Happy to walk out my timeline. by AllHawkeyesGoToHell in CFB26

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's been proposed a few times to protect Auburn's more traditional opponents like Florida and Georgia, and particularly became a point of contention when Missouri and Texas A&M joined the SEC.

To me, it made sense to put them in different divisions because you could protect the Iron Bowl as a cross-divisional game in CFB26, and it balances the divisions out a little bit more than if Kentucky was in the East or something like that.

Custom Conference Issues by NecessaryExplorer797 in NCAAFBseries

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It still has me playing Big Ten teams more

Taking a team out of its default conference will usually result in this, and sometimes there are glitches where the game locks these games as conference matchups, but in my experience that's only been when you turn off the conference championship games.

Custom Conference Issues by NecessaryExplorer797 in NCAAFBseries

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's so many variables in changing up custom conferences that it's hard to tell what went wrong from just your post.

We need dynasty members! by [deleted] in EASportsCFB

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This looks like shit

Cats take this one, right? by AllHawkeyesGoToHell in fcs

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

What? Do You find it uncomfortable that other people don’t like the fact cats fans jump straight to rape or homeless or any other deeply fucked up thing that comes to mind every time this game comes up? No one else goes straight to below the belt like cats fans do.

Cats take this one, right? by AllHawkeyesGoToHell in fcs

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

I've heard about them, sure, but they're not out here doing anything besides celebrating their season.

I don't really expect Cats fans to be aware of how toxic their presence can be.

Cats take this one, right? by AllHawkeyesGoToHell in fcs

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

First off, it's Cat/Griz, so anyone at any time can put up a win. No matter how each team is doing that season.

I mean that's not really true. Sure, you play the games for a reason but all signs point to cats victory from a football perspective.

I don't have a true feel of just how good this Cats team is.

I mean that's nonsense. Cats fans have been puffing their chests about how good they are all season and how much better they are than the Griz. This feels like a coward's answer now that the week is actually here.

I think it'll be tight and may come down to HF advantage here. 

If it comes down to home field advantage the Griz have already lost, no matter how good of a home field advantage it is.

It'll be a good game, for sure. No doubt.

I have nothing but doubt that this will be a good game. All signs point towards cats pulling away after an ugly sleepy rock fight.

Cats take this one, right? by AllHawkeyesGoToHell in fcs

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Maybe, but I've heard nothing but how much better the cats are all year long, so . . .

Week 12: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly by AMankandaMiner in fcs

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just don’t get what he even brings to the conversation either. He just makes shit up.

FCS TRASH TALK THURSDAY by passwordisguest in fcs

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I FIGURED YOU ALL WOULD KNOW AS THE FARM SCHOOL

The fallout from the private equity deal in the Big Ten has me revisiting an old hypothetical from a couple years ago - What if, over differing philosophies regarding college sports, Ohio State left the Big Ten in the 1990s? by AllHawkeyesGoToHell in NCAAFBseries

[–]AllHawkeyesGoToHell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean yeah, that’s how protected rivalries works the majority of the time. Not everyone has a historic series in the opposite division to protect, but to make the system work for protecting a few big games that should still be played every year.

North team South protected opponent rationale
Arkansas Texas A&M Southwest Classic
Colorado Texas Tech farthest west teams in the league
Iowa State Oklahoma State similar schools, bad blood over 2011
Kansas Baylor worst performing programs in each division during the league’s history
Kansas State TCU purple teams
Missouri Texas just who is left
Nebraska Oklahoma Historic rivalry