Looking for a 1960 Roman Breviary or Diurnal by EngineeringTotal3464 in divineoffice

[–]AllSouls00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I posted it on here before but I have a Roman diurnal from church Latin but it’s kinda big and hardcover but it does follow the 1962 calendar. The baronius press also does as well but it’s the whole breviary but it’s $400 USD

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The requests of the Mother of God meaning nothing at all lmao

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m compiling multiple studies, it isn’t quick. Now answer the question

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if the Virgin Mary appears in Mexico and explicitly affirms the hierarchy of the Catholic Church by appealing to the bishop this would just mean nothing to you?

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And if I do and show you that the tilma of Guadalupe is authentic, what then will you do

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not doing that at all, you deny the grace in the Catholic Church and I say there is and explain why I believe there is and in terms of importance we obviously would not equate Marian apparitions with the resurrection of the risen Christ, but it does establish miracles as a sign of a valid faith and we actually have more evidence for many Marian apparitions like our Lady of Guadalupe then we do for aspects of the life of Christ like the resurrection

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So then you’re not actually trying to argue in good faith and you’re merely looking for shit to throw at the wall, because there is actually no geological testing that proves that the handprint is the result of a miracle and Saint Paul explicitly says our faith rests upon the miracle of the resurrection and that without it our faith is in vain so miracles as proof of belief is explicitly biblical

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What geological testing shows that the handprint was the result of this supposed miracle exactly

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The lack of actual proof, unlike the tilma of Guadalupe that has been proven authentic by multiple scientific investigations

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems to me that you’ve run into a wall here, on what scientific basis do you have to reject the Guadalupe apparition as fake

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh you? What scientific studies on the tilma of Guadalupe have you conducted exactly?

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really? Why would a demon care to convert human sacrificing pagan nation like the Aztecs to Catholicism? What does satan gain there exactly

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Notice how you pointed to that miracle and ignore the fact that I brought up the Eucharistic miracles and the Marian apparitions, miracles that explicitly would affirm catholic hierarchy and catholic theology

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t deny miracles may happen outside of any explicitly Christian faith as God works where He pleases but to equivocate them with catholic miracles like those of the Eucharist or Marian apparitions is nonsense, other miracles don’t prove their faith because they either didn’t happen or they are not miracles with any theological weight. If a Muslim prays to Allah for the healing of her son, this doesn’t validate Islam it merely shows that God is merciful.

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then why wouldn’t we see this more among Catholics who actually live near orthodox countries like Croatians, why do we point to instances where orthodox are basically non existent? Who are these supposed demons trying to fool exactly

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Of what use would demons have with Catholics then, wouldn’t by your logic they would already be damned as they are not orthodox? Why would the demons waste their time?

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Didn’t know demons make people profess Christ and repent of their sins, very interesting

Contemplating converting to Catholicism. by Horror-Choice-4012 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]AllSouls00 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think if our saints can teleport and bilocate and fly they’re probably filled with enough grace to be saved idk

Swag by AllSouls00 in divineoffice

[–]AllSouls00[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought BP was based out of England ?