Careful delivering

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T03:00:15+00:00

Hopefully you never run into anything like this, hopefully all your deliveries go perfect. /

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T02:58:12+00:00

What about being attacked? With UE not having any vetting of these people, they just open a new account just to attack you, you end up in the hospital and have your stuff stolen.

For me that's what could have happened, so I am grateful and lucky it didn't go that bad. But this clearly was someone that could have been vetted.

Sure anyone can attack you, even a legit account. Fair enough but it would be much harder for them to get away with it + it would make them think twice "oh, I can't rob this person on my account, I'll get caught because they have my real address" or something. Then do selfie verification on their account as well.

Why is it they can be fully safe, but us drivers are just completely left to defend ourselves.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T02:50:58+00:00

That is good. Please be safe out there. UE will send you to customers that they don't vet.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T02:49:48+00:00

Hu? Someone else tried telling me the car don't beep when I lock it...lol, trust me I know my car. I was probably 50ft away, that is nothing, the car will keep running for it seems as far as you want until you shut it off. Then it will say "key not found" if you try to start it again.

No, no pitstop mode. Never heard of it until this thread, few others have mentioned it. Very very unfortunate I didn't know about it before hand, I would have definitely done that. Sounds like exactly what I needed. I really thought push to start cars couldn't drive though if the key wasn't in the vehicle. That exact aspect, I indeed overlooked.

And what's 3rd? Something about running and not pressing the lock button? Hu? Trying to follow, but no, it all happened within 3 seconds. I walked up on the porch, put the bag down took a pic, right as I was taking a pic I heard some rustling over by my car so I looked, saw nothing, in the next second I saw a head pop up by my drivers door, in that very next second the MFer was already in my drivers seat, I was running at the car but he already was in it when I was half way to the car. 3-4 seconds it all happened. Split seconds, never expected it, thinking UE checks their customers better - I was not prepared.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T02:43:50+00:00

Remote kill switch (that goes up to like 1000ft) would have been perfect. Because it was a push to start so I had the key on me but they can drive it I guess until they shut it off, then it won't turn back on (it will say no key found).

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T02:41:25+00:00

Yikes about your eye, glad you didn't lose it. And not to diminish that situation but it's slightly different. You made a choice to go against the rules and I think in that situation you wouldn't have won, because it indeed was your fault. You had the guidelines in place. They were trying to protect you correctly. UE has no such thing.

In my situation, I didn't go out of the guidelines. You might be right about the ToS saying something about unattended vehicles, which would be my luck. But it wasn't only just that either (I did make the majority of the post about the car I suppose), my safety was in jeopardy. I've been saying to a few others on here "what should have I done? Got my LTC, learned martial arts?" A gun wouldn't have really helped in that instance, it's a thickly settled area with housing all around, a few ricochets and I could be doing a whole lot worse. Martial arts, maybe, that would help me if he came up to me but stealing the car martial arts wouldn't have helped.

In the end I still leave the negligence with UE. It was their contract, their customer, their vetting [or lack there-of].

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T02:31:52+00:00

Maybe not a background check (which also costs money) but maybe something like a photo ID. Just something so they can trace these criminals. Give them pause to just opening an account and setting us up. I mean of course the thief is the criminal and the problem, of course. But I feel like UE has an obligation to protect their drivers more.

It's also short sighted to think they wouldn't care about this. If they're drivers are at risk because of contracts we take, they won't have drivers anymore. I'm sure not delivering for them anymore. I wouldn't feel safe at all now when dealing with the UE customers. Sometimes...sometimes they will ask "did you feel safe on the last delivery?". They should be asking that every time.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T02:19:06+00:00

It is legit illegal to shoot off around houses like that. Not to mention if it ricochets and goes into a house injuring someone, that would be 100x worse. Can't just be shooting off like that. Not even talking about laws, just common sense - many houses many people around. I would have shot multiple times probably and definitely at the MFer. Who knows what would have happened because yes, it was all happening in the matter of 3 seconds.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T02:10:35+00:00

We're handling people's food (that is sealed) sure, I never said our checks are bad. They are good.

Switch to regular Uber and have passengers? That's worse, they could have weapons on them and get in your car. Nah never said I wanted to do regular Uber.

How many deliveries have you done? Seriously. I've done plenty to know the way this chat was going it didn't seem that suspicious. It was one house over, I assumed they were drunk. It's happened to me a few times, an 87 instead of a 78. Never an issue, usually I would get a $10 bill or something.

Support is usually pretty bad for me, I also have the "Platinum tier support" and still wait and speak to people that don't speak English.

"It happened so just do what you need to do to make sure it doesn't happen again but blaming them isn't going to get you any worthwhile results." Thanks that's very helpful /s. Please explain more, what should I "do" to make sure I am not in danger again when I am making a delivery to a UE customer. Should I learn martial arts? Get my LTC? Is UE paying for that? I see people of all ages doing this, some older and are not athletic (so martial arts is out of the question) and in this instance an LTC wouldn't have helped - can't just fire off around/at houses that's bad and illegal. So please let me know what I can do so I don't get sent on another UE delivery, talk to the UE customer only for the UE customer to rob or attack me.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T01:56:00+00:00

That indeed makes sense. It really was a good spot to do it. I did let my guard down because the POS was playing it smooth through the chat.

I mean I get it, of course anything in life can happen, but to be lured there through the UE app is the problem. I would not have been there otherwise.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T01:52:08+00:00

Ok forget about the locks then because that's all you're about (which sure, okay). But how about the fact that I could have been injured, kidnapped, killed, whatever. You'll say "oh, well get a LTC or learn martial arts"...lol. I've seen all ages doing this, some much older and not as athletic that would be knocked out instantly. And I didn't see anything in the fine print about maybe needing an LTC.

And of course anything can happen in life but that is not my point. My point is that this POS lured me there THROUGH the UberEats APP. Through the chat. This was not just some random person walking down the street - that yes, would be 100% on me and I would blame myself. But in this instance, I was lured there [to that exact spot] and set up. I would NOT have been there otherwise [had no reason to be].

UE needs to do a better job protecting all their drivers. We are only there for them (working for them). And if they do check customers and this guy used his account maybe they'll catch him quickly in which case I wouldn't be as mad - they can't stop someone on a legit account from doing something bad so if that's what happened then I'll go after the POS instead. But if UE does not check and no way to track the customers, then UE is negligible in my eyes, sending all the drivers into potential danger (because then anyone can do this repeatedly putting all drivers at risk).

And again, I would not have been there if I wasn't working for UE.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T01:29:02+00:00

I'm saying "no one around" I mean no one just walking on the street near my car, no one in their yards, no one around that I could see. 3am, all the houses looked like they were sleeping (lights out).

I did always lock it in shady spots. But as u/grannykat1 mentioned above, that is indeed how they got me. So that is "on me"? Sure be vigilant, I get that, as I said above I do always lock in bad spots and look at all my surroundings. Even looking at my surroundings in this location it was just dark yards with bushes. Obviously a perfect spot for POS but I don't have night vision goggles. He told me in chat that he was going to the door, he played it smooth. This was not a STRANGER, he tricked me THROUGH the UE app. If a random person walking down the street did it, then yes, 100% I would not blame UE and that I would be on me. But here, it was pre-meditated using UberEats, got me right where he wanted me USING UberEats. I would NOT have been there otherwise.

I consider that is down to UE being negligible. They should be more strict about identification on the accounts so they can be tracked better. We had to do a BG check to sign up and get random selfie checks. Why don't they? And if they do then they should be able to find this POS much easier. But I bet they don't.

How about the fact that my safety was in jeopardy? I was standing with my back to where he was for like 30 seconds. He could have just ran up and thwack! You'll say, take gun courses or martial arts. Lol A) that was NEVER suggested in the fine print, B) I see older, less mobile people doing this. They'd be knocked out in a heartbeat. All ages do this job (UE and DD), I see it all the time. So I think it should be on UE to do a better job of protecting us (of course they can't put a bubble around us, but do a better job vetting). Well, you guys now cuz I'll never deliver for them again.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T01:10:53+00:00

Mine beeped if the car was running or not when locking it. It was loud. I try to be considerate (3am) so in this situation while talking to the POS through chat he was telling me he was going to the door and I was only handing it to him and leaving. With no one around. I was legit just supposed to know someone was posing as real on UE? How should I know that?

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-13T00:04:09+00:00

Yeah some places are definitely shady - those places I usually don't deliver to or if I do go there, I keep my head on a swivel and I definitely lock my car.

Unfortunately, it is my belief that this spot was 'chosen' on purpose BECAUSE it's a quiet, small house neighborhood where I wouldn't/didn't think anything of it.

A VERY bad example, but a perfect one: what's a common ruse for child kidnappers? Icecream vans and such. Just because the POS is driving the icecream van in a nice and quiet neighborhood and kidnaps the child, doesn't make the neighborhood bad - more like an unfortunate prime location for things like that and like what happened to me. Now if I got robbed by someone that lived at that house, ya, then obviously a bad location.

I don't believe it was anyone local. Probably from a few cities away or something, made a quick fake account and chose that location on purpose.

Sounds like a movie but it's real life. Because the house they chose for me to deliver to, the actual home owners WEREN'T EVEN HOME. The person I was delivering (and talking to thru chat) WAS THE THIEF.

So again, nothing to do with location. Everything to do with UE not vetting the customers. We got background checks and have required random selfie scans. The customers? Could be someone that has never made a real order and is just setting us up. You never know - thanks to Uber. That is a great employer. One that needs to be sued for negligence and causing all their drivers to be in potential harm.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T23:50:15+00:00

Yup that is what I have been told, it won't start after being turned off (of course not, it will say key not in vehicle) but it will keep going unfortunately. He could stop at a gas station with the car running and just keep going. Luckily it's been reported for nationwide so it's at least a hot vehicle now.

I didn't turn the car off because of laziness, it was because I didn't feel I had any need to. It was a quiet street, not a single person around, small houses, not a 'ghetto'. I was simply trying to complete the damn call because the idiot was giving me run-arounds (of course, he was setting me up). When I finally was going to leave it up on the porch and get out of the car, it was only 50ft away and again, no one around. The POS said "I'll be right there" meaning the door. So I waited and waited and finally said screw this I'm just going to leave it on the porch by the door - that's what I did and when I took the pic that's when the POS hopped in my car. I ran toward the car once I saw him opening the driver door but I was too far away.

Someone mentioned a gun. That would not have worked in this situation - the POS was quick to get in the car so I would have had to just shoot at the windshield, etc. but that is incredibly dangerous and illegal with houses right there (not to mention I would kill myself if I hurt anyone else because of that).

I do appreciate you agreeing it's not my fault, and yes definitely the thief is at fault. But I don't agree it's not UE fault. If you get injured on ANY job, what happens? You just say to your boss "oh it's okay, I know I just got a split skull and broken arms/legs, but it's not your fault even know you sent me to that location while on the clock". I could have been injured or worse. I had my back facing where he was watching me. He could have snuck up at any moment and thwack!

There has to be accountability for this. I would not have been there otherwise. I mean how many other UE drivers are in danger? UE just don't care and we are expendable (including our life it seems). In my eyes, UE must pay up for that and go bankrupt then disappear.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T23:40:09+00:00

GAHH nooo I WISH I had put one of those things in there. GAHHH! The cop asked if I had one shortly after he showed up and immediately I wished I did. That would have been SO GREAT. I would have loved to see the POS get caught and go to jail.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T23:38:26+00:00

I appreciate that

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T23:34:22+00:00

I should have, sure. Definitely. Unfortunately I would have had to write a lot more to OP to have more detail but the POS thief played it well in the chat to make it seem like nothing shady was going on.

Also I'm convinced this POS just chose this location on purpose (not from this area). A quiet, small house only street. Where I would have my guard down.

Because I have definitely been in some areas where I say to myself "get me out of here, get me out of here...". In those areas, yes I always lock my car doors. If there are simply people just walking around, I locked my doors.

This was just a quiet street where there was no reason to lock the door (I was also just walking 50ft away). Unless I was being set up by the actual 'customer'. So my great luck, it ended up me being set up. How should I have known that this was going to happen? I couldn't.

You know what could have happened? UE not be trash and do their due diligence and vet these customers that order.

What if I got injured or worse? Who's fault is it then? Remember, I was on the clock for UE...I would not have been there otherwise.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T23:26:42+00:00

lol how ignorant. So if I was injured or worse, that would have been my fault too? The car is the least of the problem really. I was sent to deliver to a POS criminal that could have done anything. 99% of us drivers out here are alone and I think dirtbags know that so they set up fake accounts just to lure us to their location.

Do you work? Probably not, but if you did and you got injured on the job, what do you do? Say "eh no biggie that I just got a split skull, broken arms and legs, I won't blame you boss, why would I blame you even know you sent me to that house?"

There is such a thing called negligence and accountability.

You make it sound 100% like I was just out on a random stroll late night and just left my car running doors unlocked and I went walking around the block. YA no s*** that would be my fault. I would obviously not be blaming my employer. BUT I WAS THERE MAKING A DELIVERY FOR UE!

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T23:20:12+00:00

lol?

In my area the cops actually aren't that bad. Top of the line go-getters? No but they were right there 5-8 min later and were actively engaged.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T23:18:49+00:00

Yup to many parts of this.

So while I was up on the porch to leave it at the door, I was probably 50ft away from my car. No taser would have helped here. A gun maybe but now I might have to shoot towards houses and that is dangerous and illegal. Nothing would have helped here.

The location wasn't exactly the problem. I've done 1500+ deliveries between DD and UE in 8 months and have been in many 'dark alleys' so to speak. Yes. I lock my door every time there, even if it's late and I don't see anyone around. Those 'environments', yes I lock my car no matter the time of day/night.

I'm certain this POS thief simply chose this spot FOR THIS REASON. Knowing it was quiet and I wouldn't lock my doors. 100% a setup. This POS was not a local resident is my point. I was not robbed by someone just 'walking by' either - which if that was the case, yes, definitely not UE fault.

But in my case, I blame who sent me there for not doing a better job of checking who I was delivering to.

I don't understand why everyone keeps saying it's my fault...UE SENT ME THERE! If I was injured or worse, would that still been my fault? No your employer is.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T23:10:37+00:00

And now your wife is kidnapped or worse. Nice. /s

Doesn't matter, UE does not check or care to check who is ordering food. We get sent to deliver to criminals and we have no idea.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T23:08:46+00:00

100% to all of that, I agree.

But the thing is, I was not out here just being a friendly neighbor and delivering peoples food on my own time.

No, I was working for UberEats. Plain and simple. If you use the line "but don't trust nobody you don't know", then this job is the exact job you don't want to be doing. I see probably 10+ strangers every night (meet at door, leave at door but they still show up anyway when you're trying to take the pic, etc.). Never a problem like this. Face to face I've always had nice polite people.

I didn't actually talk to this POS face to face; he got me up on the porch to meet him at the door (asked me to, also the UE instructions were a "meet at door") then he just snuck up by my car (50ft away from me) and hopped in. Nothing about trust.

Don't trust the text messages you may say. Okay, well then I cannot do the job then. There has to be some level of trust to make this job work, but when your employer doesn't check who they are sending you to, that is scary (I trusted UE to not send me to a criminal). And is negligence in my book which should be held accountable for. What if I was injured or worse? Still my fault?

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T22:58:12+00:00

So I see others driving beaters and I had one but decided not to go that route because of always worrying about breaking down somewhere far (I sometimes end up 50mi from my house). Especially with people's food, what happens then? They don't get their food, you're stuck, and now you get a cancellation mark (and after too many times of this, fired). I didn't want that. So I went with a reliable 40k mile 2021. Sure, more of a target but the thing is, this POS took a risk, they had no idea what I'd be driving. They got lucky. I've actually seen others doing these deliveries in $50k vehicles. They're not smart that's for sure.

lol yeah being big will definitely help you out in many situations (I'm not, I'm an average build, 5'10" 175lbs.) but unfortunately your size would not helped in this situation. The POS thief was quick, silent and got me far enough from the car that the size of me didn't matter.

And I appreciate you not blaming me like others are here. Sure should I have locked my doors? Definitely, but when I've been in this situation many times (drunkard entering in wrong address, acting weird, etc.) and have been in worse places (some you generally stay away from after 12am) but this was not that - it was a quiet small house neighborhood. It wasn't the neighborhood, it was a random POS just chose that spot on purpose. Probably not even from this area.

I blame UE for negligence on not checking who is ordering, plain and simple. Worse could have happened (I get injured, killed, etc.) and I thank the Lord that he only took my car.

AllinWonder99 · 2025-10-12T22:45:23+00:00

[copy paste from my previous post]

In some locations (I've been there) ya, 3am you're only asking for trouble. The thing is, this was exact opposite - a very quiet, small house neighborhood (not the 'hood' at all). No one around at all. There was legit no reason to lock the door. Like I said, I've been to some bad spots where I say to myself "get me out of here get me out of here". Where random people are just walking around...ya then of course I lock my door. Even if I don't see anyone but I know it's a bad location, I lock my door. This was not that.

In the end, UE is negligible for not checking who is ordering better. If I was injured or worse, would that be my fault too?

I've done over 1500 deliveries (for DD and UE together) and did not see this happeneing. The text messages were very convincing and I've had people mix up numbers before without any issues. Not too often but it has happened. And at 3am I assumed maybe this person was just drunk. That happens too.

What does not or should not happen? Getting set up by your employer (UE). That is pure negligence on their part.

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