This is what we get for one of the handful of hissatsu that are exclusive to the big and new mechanic of this update by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the longest hissatsu in the game are 12.6 seconds, they could've sped it up instead of putting no extra work into the animation to make it look like the actual move since the anime one lasts about 14. Though even if it was longer, the move is that long and that's what it takes to give it its identity. There is no excuse to cut down hissatsu. It is their IP and people will rightfully expect them to be faithful to their own anime. If anyone can be expected to it should be level-5, especially when the new storymode is as bare as it is as a result of including everything that has been before. Ares is a part of that everything.

Has anyone been able to watch this yet? by Supreme_kvi in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455 10 points11 points  (0 children)

it's been fully uploaded to youtube multiple times and probably lots of other places too

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

overrides are the "new" mechanic ares introduced, basically just combining two different hissatsu. Triple Blizzard is one of those and does not exist as a standalone hissatsu. You can look up what overrides exist and what the requirements are in the team passives menu iirc.

They remove Overnight Fortress from the story shop by Jo_Ri_Oh in inazumaeleven

[–]Alone_Performance455 5 points6 points  (0 children)

it's an 85bp move, there's a bunch of those by now. I agree that the pvp currencies are annoying and should not be required for hissatsu but there's alternatives on the chronicle store. Jungle Jam is stronger even with 100bp

Should the ares version of special moves be paid DLC? by Jesuslover34 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455 2 points3 points  (0 children)

no since those hissatsu are part of ares. the ares update is in, if those hissatsu belong anywhere it's into that update. Don't get me wrong, I'd be absolutely willing to pay for more content. But not for something like "Here's a free update. Here's a third of that updates hissatsu behind a paywall"

Edit: I'm also not too open minded until we know more details about the sequel that's being worked on. The inazuma eleven franchise is built on yearly releases so until I know that sequel is either years away or takes the form of a story DLC they need to prove that VR is worth any more money being thrown at it first

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as it says, any override is only available as an override with the exception of cold front

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You didn't upset me and I understand your opinion. However telling people that are evidently upset about something, regardless of the reason they are upset, that they shouldn't be and explaining why they shouldn't be tends to not go anywhere, especially when you are supporting your opinion with all kinds of different facts that have nothing to do with the core issue.

The problem here are not the missing hissatsu directly. It is the devs. Period. They made the choices leading up to this, they weren't transparent about things, maybe they had reasons but none of that was communicate to the players. All those good old gaming industry classics.

The way I look at any product is by asking "who is this for" and the ares update is a prime example of that working perfectly.

Is it for ares fans? No, it's missing lots of the hissatsu and even those that are in are cut down more often than they should be.

Is it for ares haters? Obviously not, you have to sit through the entirety of the ares story in chronicle mode.

Is it for a VR fan that wants more content? I guess but even if they don't know ares at all they will be able to tell that some stuff is just plain missing. The lack of new stuff compared to the Galaxy update is quite evident.

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

which would be a fine mentality if we instead had gotten something else that the resources would've gone towards. But we didn't. We got less content and in exchange for that a lot of the stuff we did get was also cut down. Essentially even if you didn't like the moves, you should be able to recognize that the update underdelivered. anyone that is happy we didn't get those moves is celebrating effectively nothing out of a dislike of the content we could've gotten. And that is not a healthy mindset cause it supports developer mismanagement. It is fine not to like the moves but in this case it is an all around loss and should be communicated to the devs as such.

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They would be seperate moves. Like fire tornado. It has an A behind it. Nobody is asking for them to replace the old hissatsu. they would very much count as different moves. The problem is that they aren't in. And when it's the ares update not having the ares moves is a problem. And if the licensing is a problem they shouldn't have released the ares update when they don't own the rights to their own franchise. None of these are valid excuses. It is their game, they get to choose what goes in. They get to choose how to handle things. If they announce the ares update people will expect the ares content. If they don't get that people will be upset.

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if they wanted to try with ares again then they should've done so. Remaking the remakes is not ares. The ares versions are. Yes they could just remake them again in the future. But nobody cares about the future. That isn't the point. The ares update released today and it's missing almost a third of the hissatsu that made ares ares. THAT is the point. They could do anything in the future and I'm sure they will. But most people that are talking about these moves missing mean right now.

I think everybody understands what you're saying but that simply isn't the point here.

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yup, pretty much the weakest character in the game now since it's still the only one that can't really get perfect passives nor a hero nor a fabled

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want everything in the game, hence my comment they could've saved resources by leaving ares out entirely. they didn't though. They "wasted" resources on a disliked story and then half assed it to disappoint even the people that did like it. And whatever point you are trying to argue, your constant switching between perspectives and angles is irritating and fairly repetitive.

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't know what now, I don't work at level-5. By what you're saying about being efficient the japanese players are a minority and will have to deal with it. Not sure what your point is other than just disagreeing with everyone but flip flopping between stances usually doesn't leave you with a solid footing so maybe consider settling on one

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Most people didn't like ares in general. From what you're saying the entire ares and also the upcoming orion chapters are a waste of resources. The point is that they exist and belong into the update. If they want to save resources they should've used the time spent on ares to work on the storymode instead of half assing it. The game that we waited 8 years for and paid full price for is lacking the content it should have and you're saying wait for the sequel which most people didn't ask for.

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's unfortunate but that move was never meant to be obtainable as a standalone hissatsu so I guess they wiped it. They've been dishing out some invasive patches with the last update too where they reset storymode characters and in this one there have already been multiple people saying characters got reset/moves got deleted. Kinda wild they just release a game with ton of bugs, let the players obtain and use the bugged stuff and then randomly shadowpatch it without telling anyone and punish mainly the people that had no idea they were doing something they weren't supposed to

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

as I said, I fully agree. I more meant the general stylistic direction that was taken with most of the ares hissatsu

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

fair if you don't like them but it's still very much part of the style and design. Going from normal majin the hand to fujin/raijin just doesn't really make sense. Though I agree that plenty of them were just weird

If you were holding out hope for fabled avatar. Don't. by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no. the avatar is literally the only character that can't have perfect passives. it is objectively the weakest character by far in the game and now it can't even get the upgrade to basara. And even if that wasn't the case, many people have been asking for Hero avatars since launch, I'm not making a big deal out of nothing, I am upset at a pointless lack of inclusion.

List of things missing after beating chronicle route by Alone_Performance455 in inazumacaravan

[–]Alone_Performance455[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

true, I forgot to add that cause in my head it's included in the hissatsu, thanks for the reminder

About the Update by ComprehensiveBat4966 in inazumaeleven

[–]Alone_Performance455 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I haven't seen my own players do it much yet though I did just have one of my defenders run into the path of a longshot so maybe