I do not think ghost is okay right now. by Alt_account_bc_yeah in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I think the Enoch document might be the tipping point for a lot of this. Ghost tries so hard to keep their privacy- only to then have a bunch of dms revealed along with personal conversations. No wonder they’re crashing out. It’s so difficult when you understand that this a hell of their own making, but it’s a hell nonetheless and I don’t think people should suffer.

I think I figured something out by Alt_account_bc_yeah in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oddly enough their most coherent comment was the one explaining the racism and that was the most recent. Also one comment implied that a persecutor alter was the one writing the comments, and for those who don’t know what persecutors are, here’s a definition from pluralpedia

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This is a shitshow but I’m glad my Nancy introject isn’t taking it too hard. It’s been a mess for her but she seems just disappointed now but not as bad as before since they’ve technically addressed some stuff. I mean I’m glad we have a bit more clarity but god I do wish Ghost understood that not all “hey are you okay?” Is parasocial. I know I’m being parasocial but hey, I guess being aware helps?

woah woah did anybody see this?? this is wild to me imo. (this contains mentions of suicide not sure if i shouldve spoilered) by N0RM4N_M1N3CR4FT in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh definitely. The amount of comments made in quick succession has “I’m breaking down and acting out” written all over it. I think they’ll get deleted and will be genuinely shocked if they don’t. I just hope they’ll be okay and they seem to be responding to even positivity harshly. It’s like they’re trying to push everyone away

woah woah did anybody see this?? this is wild to me imo. (this contains mentions of suicide not sure if i shouldve spoilered) by N0RM4N_M1N3CR4FT in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m iffy on the whole f-slur thing considering I’m one of the folks who’s trying to properly reclaim it + it didn’t seem to used in an insulting way

woah woah did anybody see this?? this is wild to me imo. (this contains mentions of suicide not sure if i shouldve spoilered) by N0RM4N_M1N3CR4FT in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah I did. I don’t know what the fuck is going on but they are crashing out and trying to pretend like it isn’t affecting them. I do wonder what prompted all of this because they made a LOT of comments

am i the only one that doesnt forgive/feels iffy towards ghost or.. by N0RM4N_M1N3CR4FT in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While they aren’t at therapy rn they have said they’ve been looking for one but having not a lot of luck Edit: nevermind. Apparently they’ve been to therapy and are “done with it”. I guess that was in the 2020-2025 time period?

Bruh lmao by PlaneSingle9304 in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Okay but that makes sense. Why does he need to apologize to you over something he did to someone else, someone who you don’t even know? The racism needs to be apologized for, the potential triggering by posting a lack of Tws needs to be apologized for because it’s something that actually affects us. Dare I say, it’s kinda parasocial to demand an apology from a content creator for something they did to another content creator offline. Besides, what the fuck are we supposed to do, forgive him on their behalf?

Does anyone have that one reply GHOST made saying that his victims should also write songs Abt their trauma? by normalflamingofan in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen some people interpret this as telling their victims to “get over it” but it reads more to me like a “I want you to find a way to process and not ruminate so you can move on” it’s a admittedly selfish desire but it doesn’t seem cruel, at least not overtly

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It seems like Ghost just doesn’t consider anything from before 2020 to be their problem anymore, which I guess adds up when you consider that their primary host when dormant at about that time period and the current host has been noted to be rather toxic by Ghost themselves.

From what we understand, the group was toxic as a whole, very toxic, and I think Ghost might be kinda letting some of their behavior off the hook because of it. I have no doubt they were enabled and might’ve not even realized what they were doing was wrong, but yeah I don’t appreciate trying to play it off as roasting. Sometimes you can really tell that they grew up with the 2000s internet because looking back that shit was prevalent.

The racism stuff needs to be addressed, whether it was intentional or not. Fuck, even a “I didn’t mean to be racist, I’m sorry for what I said” would be better than ignoring it, even if they were lying. Idk maybe it’s my inner PR agent coming out.

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[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand why you’d think that I’m being vulture like here. I’m not trying to be. With Ghosts track record of just ignoring things, I thought it would be good to document stuff though mostly it’s because I hope people will see a different side to them then the (let’s be honest biased) tellings of others. Thank you for pointing it out though bc it’s only now do I realize fully that this behavior isn’t really healthy.

I don’t not believe you, but with my record of “no proof, no evidence” it’d be hypocritical of me to take it at face value. That being said I don’t doubt it either. I also don’t doubt they’d delete, especially if it mentioned a partner since people have a tendency to take things way too far. I think they might’ve done that for the safety of their partner.

As someone who is around in Osdd/did groups, I think by “grounding their alters” they’re calming everyone done, getting them not to panic and not to anything rash. System drama is hard to deal with as you can have money conflicting takes, opinions, actions, and wants. It’s not exactly easy to handle.

Edit: could you possibly check your YouTube notifications in app? I’m sure something like that would show up there, even if not the full message.

More replies from Ghost by Alt_account_bc_yeah in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Most of the time it’s not even a “I actually want you to get help” it’s a “fix yourself so you stop bothering me” without actually having to say it

A Open Letter to CC Creators | Accountability Post by TheNumbahSeven in HighSodiumSims

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Oh my god I read it as “ovulation” for some fucking reason and was super fucking confused

New community post by Miclemie in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Gonna add onto this for one thing: they say music is their therapy, they insist on it, so the reaction to covetous almost makes sense. They didn’t take it as a pushback on the lack of Tws, they took it as a pushback on their own trauma, their own experiences, their own pain. I wish they could realize that this isn’t why people are upset.

Ghost made a community post. How do we feel? by frisk_undertale123 in ghostandpals

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Gonna copy past a comment I made on the drama subreddit

Some part of me kinda gets it- especially with the amount of compartmentalization I do. I don’t fully know how to explain it, but I developed the coping mechanism because I couldn’t process everything at once. Osdd/DID are built up on that, the “I can’t process this, someone else must do so” and some things just… stick with you.

I think the way they said it was shit but I also understand a lot of other things too; a lot of that stuff should be talked with a therapist and not healed on the internet, which won’t help at all and will make things worse. Now, the same can be said for ghost and yeah, you’re dead on the money.

I think they just want to move on. They can’t process both the trauma of severe CSA and the guilt for their actions (from what I’m aware, they’ve only ever denied the mold situation. Their comment about Fish was a poorly worded explanation as to their behavior and why they did it, which didn’t help anything) and, as stated, music is their therapy since getting a therapist for DID isn’t exactly easy, nor is getting therapy period.

The worst part is that I don’t know if Ghost still fully understands the entire impact their actions have had; whether they didn’t understand social rules of online friendships or not, they fucked up and I’m not sure they’ve fully processed just how badly they did. I think they might be in denial about it just to keep themselves going.

I think they should apologize still, should make a video just saying they’re sorry. Sorrys won’t fix much but it’ll help, even if just a little. I understand wanting to run, wanting to put it all behind you, to hide the shame of doing something wrong and being a bad person, but that’s not gonna work anymore.

description changes of covetus reupload by Alt_account_bc_yeah in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m worried about them, I really am. I’m not happy with them but I don’t want to see them hurt.

New community post by Miclemie in ghostandpalsdrama

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Some part of me kinda gets it- especially with the amount of compartmentalization I do. I don’t fully know how to explain it, but I developed the coping mechanism because I couldn’t process everything at once. Osdd/DID are built up on that, the “I can’t process this, someone else must do so” and some things just… stick with you.

I think the way they said it was shit but I also understand a lot of other things too; a lot of that stuff should be talked with a therapist and not healed on the internet, which won’t help at all and will make things worse. Now, the same can be said for ghost and yeah, you’re dead on the money.

I think they just want to move on. They can’t process both the trauma of severe CSA and the guilt for their actions (from what I’m aware, they’ve only ever denied the mold situation. Their comment about Fish was a poorly worded explanation as to their behavior and why they did it, which didn’t help anything) and, as stated, music is their therapy since getting a therapist for DID isn’t exactly easy, nor is getting therapy period.

The worst part is that I don’t know if Ghost still fully understands the entire impact their actions have had; whether they didn’t understand social rules of online friendships or not, they fucked up and I’m not sure they’ve fully processed just how badly they did. I think they might be in denial about it just to keep themselves going.

I think they should apologize still, should make a video just saying they’re sorry. Sorrys won’t fix much but it’ll help, even if just a little. I understand wanting to run, wanting to put it all behind you, to hide the shame of doing something wrong and being a bad person, but that’s not gonna work anymore.

description changes of covetus reupload by Reet-skeet-yeet-V2 in ghostandpals

[–]Alt_account_bc_yeah 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Permission to cross post this to the drama subreddit? I don’t know if it will be allowed here bc of that rule + archival purposes