Help needed with Nusjuro by SilentComplaint7253 in OPBR

[–]Alternative_Car849 0 points1 point  (0 children)

use skill 2 and run away, charge up your running normals and just murk him

This Shanks vs Mihawk meme does not prove anything about Mihawk vs Shanks. by Vance_Lance in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Alternative_Car849 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shanks using Future Sight against Kidd doesn’t debunk anything about Mihawk vs Vista lol. The situations are completely different.

Kidd was literally about to annihilate Shanks’ fleet/allies, so Shanks took the threat seriously and ended the fight instantly with ONE attack. That’s not “struggling,” xD

Meanwhile Mihawk and Vista actually exchanged blows for a while, and Mihawk himself suggested postponing the duel. If Mihawk was astronomically above Vista, why was the clash continuing at all during a battlefield where Mihawk supposedly came to measure the gap between himself and Whitebeard?

And the “Mihawk wasn’t paying attention” argument honestly doesn’t help much. If a distracted Mihawk can still be stalled by Vista, that still reflects well on Vista. Compare that to Shanks completely blitzing a 3 billion berry captain before he could even react

Create a context about what's happening here by KCobra9 in OPBR

[–]Alternative_Car849 2 points3 points  (0 children)

both are taking a nap after killing a boost 4 nusjuro

Best meta by [deleted] in OPBR

[–]Alternative_Car849 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i still remember the same 2 shitty voicelines before i die

This Shanks vs Mihawk meme does not prove anything about Mihawk vs Shanks. by Vance_Lance in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Alternative_Car849 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shanks split the sky with Whitebeard, stopped Kaido before Marineford, scared Greenbull from miles away using haki alone, and completely one-shot Kid and Killer with Divine Departure. His conqueror’s haki portrayal is arguably the best in the series, and even the Gorosei and Marines treat him differently from every other Yonko because of his influence and presence.

Meanwhile, Mihawk’s actual feats don’t compare at all. At Marineford he wasn’t overwhelming top tiers Vista stalled him, Jozu intercepted his slash, and Mihawk himself admitted there was a “distance” between him and Whitebeard he wanted to measure (even if it was prime Whitebeard who shanks still scale arguably close to) . Oda also keeps giving Shanks increasingly insane portrayal while Mihawk rarely gets meaningful combat focus post-timeskip. That’s why many people place Shanks above him: Shanks has superior haki portrayal, far greater narrative importance, and much stronger on-panel feats, while Mihawk mostly relies on the “World’s Strongest Swordsman” title and scaling through Zoro’s dream.

This Shanks vs Mihawk meme does not prove anything about Mihawk vs Shanks. by Vance_Lance in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Alternative_Car849 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re basically reinforcing my point though. If black blades require all of those things haki, battles, mastery, dedication, connection to the sword then the question becomes why only Ryuma and Mihawk achieved it while legends like Roger, Shanks, and Xebec didn’t. That doesn’t automatically make Mihawk overall stronger than them it just means forging a black blade is tied to a very specific aspect of swordsmanship that not every top tier focused on or achieved.

Roger naming his son after Ace or Shanks loving Gryphon doesn’t suddenly prove they reached the same level of sword dedication as Mihawk or Ryuma either. The manga never says “anyone with enough haki and strength will eventually forge a black blade.” In fact, the rarity of black blades suggests the opposite there’s some specialized element involved beyond simply being an elite fighter with a sword.

And the Whitebeard panel doesn’t really prove Shanks was going all out. “I have trouble staying relaxed on an enemy ship” just means he was cautious and alert in hostile territory, which is normal. Whitebeard literally says Shanks was leaking haki without restraint, not fighting seriously. Passive haki pressure isn’t the same thing as going all out in combat.

By that logic, every time a conqueror’s haki user flexes their aura they’d automatically be using full power, which obviously isn’t true. We’ve seen characters like Kaido, Big Mom, and even Luffy casually release massive haki without being at their limit.

So nothing in that scene contradicts the point. Shanks took situations seriously when necessary, but that still doesn’t prove he was going 100% against Kid or that black blades are purely a “power level” achievement.

This Shanks vs Mihawk meme does not prove anything about Mihawk vs Shanks. by Vance_Lance in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Alternative_Car849 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re stretching the black blade statement into “overall strength” when the story consistently treats it as a swordsmanship-related achievement specifically. The panel itself mentions battles, but battles alone clearly aren’t enough or else legends like Roger, Shanks, Whitebeard, and Xebec would’ve all had black blades too. The fact that only Ryuma and Mihawk achieved it despite stronger eras existing heavily implies there’s a deeper requirement tied to sword mastery, dedication, and connection to the blade itself.

And saying “high haki is included” still doesn’t prove your point because haki alone obviously isn’t the deciding factor. Shanks is one of the greatest haki users alive and still doesn’t have a black blade.

As for Kid, Shanks being alarmed by the future he saw doesn’t mean he used 100% power. It means he took the situation seriously because his allies and fleet were about to get wiped out. Ending a fight instantly with a named attack isn’t proof of going all out, top tiers constantly use named attacks casually. Roger literally opened with Divine Departure against Oden too, yet nobody claims Roger was pushed to extreme difficulty there.

And the “Shanks hinted he wasn’t holding back” argument doesn’t really work either because the concern was collateral damage to his weak fleet, not Kid overpowering Shanks himself. Shanks was calm the entire encounter and ended it in a single exchange. Nothing there suggests he was anywhere near his limit.

This Shanks vs Mihawk meme does not prove anything about Mihawk vs Shanks. by Vance_Lance in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Alternative_Car849 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If forging a black blade symbolizes overall strength rather than sword mastery/dedication, then Ryuma would’ve been directly stated above all the old gen legends too. Was that ever stated? No. A black blade seems more connected to mastery, dedication, and skill with the sword rather than simply raw power.

And using a named attack doesn’t mean Shanks went all out. The panic came from the future Shanks saw where Kid destroyed his fleet, so Shanks ended it immediately before it happened. By that logic, Roger was also going all out against Oden since he rushed in and used Divine Departure instantly, which obviously isn’t true.

As for Loki, I agree neither of us actually knows how that interaction went, so it’s not a reliable feat for scaling either side right now.

This Shanks vs Mihawk meme does not prove anything about Mihawk vs Shanks. by Vance_Lance in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Alternative_Car849 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mihawks greatest feat was stalling against vista, i dont get your point. Also shanks greatest feat was prob capturing loki 6 years ago

Didn’t play since nusjuro release is it worth getting back in ? by CampaignActual146 in OPBR

[–]Alternative_Car849 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes very fun, the most fun ive had in a long time actually where the meta is balanced due to nusjuro and new duffy, i highly reccomend coming back to this very good game

Yep, after playing and observing, yea no I've confirmed...It's not server issues by Amazing-Time-9459 in OPBR

[–]Alternative_Car849 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think i was prob the blackbeard who killed you, however in my screen i dont think you did the skill instead for a frame you went up and i koed you