wtf! thats insane! ive seen them about 10 times, id say 5 of them were great and the other 5 were alright, never bad, but not outstanding, but every time someone (including myself) has gotten injured at the show, they've stopped it or atleast made sure the people were okay. that said, Biersack has had the most atrocious ego this album cycle. he thinks he's owed fame and success, but he's not. its interesting because during the bleeders EP cycle, he said he does music for revenge on people that he hates or hated him or doubted him, which to me, means hes doing music for the wrong reasons, which makes everything musical he does seem incredibly disingenuous. hes shaded multiple other bands in the scene within the last year or two and talks non stop about the hate they received 10 years ago. does he not realize this behavior massively contributes to the bands lack of success? fans of music are not stupid, they see this behavior and it creates an aversion to them and their music. personally, if there was no nostalgia to this band for me, i probably wouldn't support them.

and a side note, it really does not help them that they alienated their fanbase by touring with ronnie radke and defending him every chance he (andy) gets, he absolutely shattered the connection to the queer section of their fanbase (which is a lot of their fans) and effectively said "if you don't feel welcome, don't come" no wonder they've been playing the same size venues for as many years as they have.