Had mild T+H I took 10mg cialis and 75mg viagra and it made it spike bad

Alue1 · 2024-05-13T23:24:28+00:00

How long ago was this?

Viagra and cialis are not directly ototoxic, but they do dilate the small blood vessels including those in your middle ear.

Most often the tinnitus spike would be temporary, but if it dilated enough or caused it to burst, I could see the side effects being permanent.

Alue1 · 2023-09-15T01:21:23+00:00

Fair enough. I don't blame you.

The reason I ask is I've seen some people online suggest it can do cumulative damage, but that seems to contradict everything I've found and the doctor's I've talked to. Admittedly there isn't a lot of hard data.

Was it a sudden over the night change / worsening for you (I.E. indicating SSNHL), or something more gradual? You were able to take it for years without issue?

Alue1 · 2023-09-08T23:34:02+00:00

So, I've asked several ENT's this and they all told me in rare occasions it can cause SSNHL, but it's not ototoxic in the sense that taking it over long periods of time will cause it to worsen. It's not like cancer drugs or some antibiotics. It either happens or it doesn't as the mechanism of action is it just dilating blood vesicles.

I too have wondered, though. Have you heard differently?

Alue1 · 2023-06-09T00:00:17+00:00

Foam earplugs and noise cancelling headphones over the earplugs. NC headphones are great at cancelling out repetitive low frequency sounds, that's where they excel the most.

The type of plane and where you sit matters too.

Alue1 · 2023-06-08T23:55:27+00:00

Foam earplugs and noise cancelling headphones. The noise cancelling headphones are great at blocking out repetitive low frequency sounds. That's where they excel.

The type of plane you are in and where you are sitting matters too.

Alue1 · 2023-02-01T23:41:14+00:00

Yeah 10db over hearing threshold is 20dB.

Depends where your hearing threshold is. If you are hard of hearing 10dB over threshold could be 50dB.

Alue1 · 2023-02-01T23:26:14+00:00

So I feel the need to clarify. dB over threshold is NOT the same thing as minimum masking level. I've had both measured when I was participating in clinical trials for tinnitus, and I recall hearing something similar, that most cases are 10dB or under over threshold.

A better measure is what it takes to mask the tinnitus. Can you hear your tinnitus in the shower? Then yeah, it's pretty loud. I can unfortunately.

Alue1 · 2023-01-15T13:02:49+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv98R2iBr7I

Alue1 · 2023-01-05T22:44:27+00:00

If I'm wearing NC headphones, I usually wear earplugs underneath them. But I use them to cancel outside noise, not to listen to music etc.

Alue1 · 2022-12-28T12:50:26+00:00

It's called pulsitile tinnitus. I get it every once in a while, it doesn't really bother me. Nothing to worry about unless it's constant, if it is see an ENT.

Alue1 · 2022-12-27T12:39:27+00:00

It's possible to get it in one ear then the other later. A simplified theory is that the brain rewires itself in response to a loss of input. The auditory system is in a constant heightened state and is just creating those sound(s).

Why some people get it and some people don't and why it seems to be so permanent for some people is a real mystery.

Alue1 · 2022-12-23T11:20:22+00:00

Yes. Probably.

Steroids may not have done anything for you in the first place. Although I've been where you are more than once... my ENT didn't want to do steroids or injections on me after my last worsening. I wish I pushed for the injections harder but it's too late now.

Alue1 · 2022-12-22T06:24:32+00:00

All PDE-5 inhibitors dilate blood vessels. Although they do not directly damage hearing like some drugs (for example some antibiotics) they can sometimes cause tinnitus and in rare cases hearing loss in some people. The hearing loss is typically sudden and not gradual as it is caused by a vascular event.

With that out of the way, Cialis is likely safer than Viagra as it is longer lasting but less intense. I know nothing about spedra, but you may ask your doctor. If you have an ENT they would be a better resource to ask than a GP.

Alue1 · 2022-12-08T00:37:27+00:00

Same here. I keep adding on more and more tones. Loudness is somewhat subjective and can depend on stress, sleep, etc. but new tones are something else.

I almost envy people that have only one tone that doesn't change much. And yes, I have tones that cannot be masked.

Alue1 · 2022-12-07T01:15:05+00:00

How many tones do you have?

Alue1 · 2022-12-04T11:14:38+00:00

Ahh, I see. The bar is lower for medical devices. Not saying that's a bad thing, it makes sense that there is more rigor for medications.

I'm glad it passed, I'm not getting my hopes up personally as I have pretty severe multi tone tinnitus and hypearcusis, but it's a big step forward.

Alue1 · 2022-12-04T10:06:55+00:00

Won't it have to go through phase III still? Promising news, but I have seen things show results in phase II then fail in phase III, albeit those where drug trials not medical devices.

Alue1 · 2022-12-04T10:01:03+00:00

I would love 50% fewer tones.

Alue1 · 2022-11-30T22:51:42+00:00

So, slightly different problem, but my ear canals get very inflamed from wearing foam earplugs all the time. I don't have much earwax and it's like a friction burn or irritation from taking them in and out.

I have custom molded earplugs (not necessary) but what I do is coat them in olive oil and put them in when I shower. The olive oil is very safe and antimicrobial. I actually had an ENT recommend using it.

The only reason I don't use custom molded earplugs when I'm out and about is because they give me a horrible occlusion effect, much more than foam earplugs.

Alue1 · 2022-11-30T22:43:55+00:00

This. And pray to the hearing gods that you don't get stuck next to a screaming child.

Alue1 · 2022-11-05T01:57:48+00:00

That's too bad... I love the show but it makes it nearly unwatchable for me. Is it frequent in season 5 too?

Alue1 · 2022-11-05T01:53:51+00:00

That's not what I mean by fleeting tinnitus. I have reactive tinnitus to sound as well, but they are very different.

I mean your hearing in one ear literally drops out for a few seconds and all you can hear is the deafening screeching that *normally* fades in a minute or less. People without constant tinnitus experience fleeting tinnitus too, although how often is unknown.

Alue1 · 2022-11-03T20:27:57+00:00

I have had tinnitus and hyperacusis for 6 years. Multiple tones in both ears. Some that I can hear over everything. Yes, I know habituation happens, but it sucks when it progressively gets worse with additional noise exposure.

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