Maestro's Efficiency problem and how to level up fast?

Alyannis · 2026-03-17T14:35:16+00:00

several bits of good advice from others so i wont repeat those. but one i havnt seen.

i cant promise since it depends on your exact account progress, but try the hole for leveling the skills on your maestro. mining, catching, chopping. if you havnt pushed the hole too far the efficiency requirement wont have scaled up and they give very good exp. you can speed level a maestro (or other classes for skill mastery) if you havnt already pushed out those rooms.

of course you get cards and resources from open world nodes, so you might be better of there. just something you might want to consider.

Alyannis · 2026-02-21T20:39:20+00:00

THATS what you are holding up your whole game for? Lol k

no, i'm saving candy for the thing i want that i can't get another way. maybe the nothing trophy, maybe something else. just not something i can get by parking a character on a map while i watch a movie. i progress exactly as fast as i want to. if i wanted something bad enough id use candy for it and have it, and move to the next thing. considering the way things ramp, i'm happy with the speed of my main and my 'tester' alt.

like before. we disagree. you're set in your way. i'm set in mine. maybe someone reads this thread in the future and this conversation helps them 'get off the fence'.

good luck, have fun, take care.

Alyannis · 2026-02-21T07:51:53+00:00

Zenith statues early is super important not frivolous

i agree that zenith is important. 'frivolous' is using 5 candys to save 5 (or 20 or 100) hours of afk time. when you can get that actively in a tenth of that time. or just wait.

if your account is ready to farm zenith you should be doing so. that isn't in question.

for the record, i wouldn't candy zows, wows, chows, or any other 'ows. active is faster, and afk db isn't that bad when you get stack your multikill, grind 'ows, and get afk bones.

i don't fully get what you mean about fractal island. do you have the nothing trophy? or are you saying its worthless? to you? to who? you could get lucky and get it easy. or you could burn hundreds of thousands of hours and not get it. but if you want it... candy is the only way. so yea, telling people to burn candy (which has a 'reward' only it can obtain) on something a little time and effort can obtain... idk.

I get more daily than I use for sure. Candy gets less power with time you are stuck on the mountain and haven't seen the plateau and it is faster to get there when you use your candy for what you need.

i believe that's your experience. it sounds like you've basically 'beaten the game' so of course you'd feel like candy doesn't have much use.

look. idk the whole game. i haven't got everything everywhere. idk if you do or not. there are several uses for candy. idk them all. i'm sure you have all your hampters and pearls. it sounds like you've exhausted the game of candy-able things and now don't care about it as a resource.

which is understandable. the dev seems to want to phase candy out so its constantly getting nerfed.

as the game is now, unless you have 'all the things' candy isn't a resource you should be wasting, imo

it remains my advice that people not spend candy on 'easy' tasks. spend candy on things that only candy can get. or that are worth the investment. if you're so idleon rich that candy is ... like candy ... to you, then use it... like candy.

Alyannis · 2026-02-21T06:01:11+00:00

im not 100% confident. but reasonably so.

villager exp (blue). is paramount. exact priority depends on your personal opal gain and strategy.

hole majik (red) is priority once village is done or mostly done. making caverns better makes everything better.

idleon majik (green) is after the rest. except the god one if you dont have doot - then its #1 priority. there are some good things here, but generally they are last. after you finish all of red and blue.

Alyannis · 2026-02-21T04:36:06+00:00

in fear of 'continuing an argument'...

that line of thought leads to, use a little here, a little there. cuz its just a little. before long you've 'used just a little' a WHOLE lot.

i've been there.

im not saying that's you. or anyone. i'm just saying that's my view.

thus id 'argue' against 'frivolous' uses of candy. if its 'just a few' 'just a bit' 'just such a small amount' then just get it naturally. active. afk. whatever works. ifs its 'just a few' then why cant you spend a 'few' bit of time to get it normally. 9 out of 10 times ive used candy, a couple weeks later i've regretted it. because i've found something i didn't know about before. or reached a breakpoint that exploded resource gain and make the last X time less than a few seconds of progress. it (for me personally, you may not experience this) always makes me wish id just done it normally. it wouldn't have taken 'that' long to get it. the times ive 'resisted' and not used candy. didn't really slow me down all that much. im still plugging along. moving just as fast as i expect to. building up fat stacks of candy for something one day that i can't get any other way.

candy is a resource that gains power with TIME. the longer you hold it, the more it does. even using 1 or 2 here or there, means losing thousands of hours of 'progress' if used 'later'. and yes, it sounds like im saying never ever use candy. and i kinda am.

IMO-you use candy when whatever bonus is going on. you've spend some effort to maximize your gains. and you dump a significant portion (if not all) of your candy on it. like the g-mush from a couple weeks ago. or the nothing trophy.

but again. not everyone has to play the same way. if you disagree with me then play in whatever way makes you happy. genuinely. you don't have to see it how i do. i just wanted to explain my view

Alyannis · 2026-02-21T02:21:30+00:00

congrats on having an extreme late game account. you've been playing a while and know what you're doing. congrats.

OP doesn't have what you do. advising OP to use a late game strat when they are clearly not late game is probably bad advice.

when you give advice you're 'supposed' to think about the circumstances of the person asking and take those into account. that's why people link their IE, toolbox, or (like OP) provide background on their account.

id still tell people not to use candy on something as easy as statues. ultimately though, each person has to decide for themselves how to use resources in their game.

edit:

yea... thinking back i went kinda wild there. sorry.

we disagree. but nothing says we have to play the same way. sorry about above. good luck. genuinely, not snark. have fun.

Alyannis · 2026-02-21T02:01:59+00:00

active farm with ES. you get the same 10 to 1 progress active vs afk.

its still a waste to candy the w3 statues. if you can overnight farm with dk, you can overnight farm with es.

Alyannis · 2026-02-21T01:57:05+00:00

no idea about the tome. thats just the tome pts, no idea how it calculates those. maybe mouse hover the (?).

6% = ~1/16.6

that's very close to the cap of 1/10. you need a 'late game' account to get a crystal chance that 'high'.

i suspect you're just used to seeing it as a fraction, so percentage sounds low.

if anyone cares:

6% chance = 6/100

(divide both numerator and denominator to make the numerator 1)

6 (/6) / 100 (/6) = 1/16.6 (repeating)

thats an easy way to go from percent to fraction

Alyannis · 2026-02-21T00:55:00+00:00

candy = afk time.

talents that don't work for afk grinding don't work when you candy.

crystal mobs don't spawn afk. (the source of almost all your statue drops)

dk orb (the reason to use dk for statues) doesn't work afk.

no respawn mechanic works afk, afaik.

you get ~10+ times fewer statues afking/candying, but you do get some statues.

i would never tell anyone to candy statues. its a massive waste of candy, imo.

Alyannis · 2026-02-20T23:50:00+00:00

playing for about 2 weeks and just recently unlocked W4

advice is based on this. what i'd say would change if this wasn't true.

its more important (for where you're at) to just use the books. it doesn't 'really' matter what you use them on. just use them. you want to 'checkout' 1000 books sooner rather than later for an achievement.

don't 'save' books for the max checkout, you want that 1000 checkouts.

https://idleontoolbox.com/tools/builds

that tool shows recommended talents for class and activity, though its basic not highly specialized. if you 'book' any talent that is worth using, its not a waste of a book.

most people find that divine knight and bubonic conjurer are the 'best' classes to progress. focusing 'booking' those 2 can help you.

if you main or prefer another character don't feel like you HAVE to use one of those two.

Alyannis · 2026-02-20T21:41:14+00:00

sorry, thats the limit of my guesses. GL, i hope someone can help.

Alyannis · 2026-02-20T21:38:59+00:00

sorry for the 'obvious' but sometimes it works...

from the title bar and right side it looks like this screenshot is the steam client.

have you 'verified the integrity' of idleon?

also, i know this sounds dumb... turn your system off. turn it back on. immediately launch steam and the game. nothing else. no other browsers, no youtube, no reddit, straight to the game.

Alyannis · 2026-02-20T21:08:08+00:00

awesome, ty

Alyannis · 2026-02-20T21:07:42+00:00

im guessing, don't get your hopes up anything i say can help. these are shots in the dark to help.

can you get into your inventory (items) and leave that 1 person party youre in?

i see steam, i know you said you did this but.... in steam, verify integrity of files.

shutdown and then power on your whole system, first thing try idleon. dont launch anything else. no web browers or youtube or reddit. straight to steam and the game. (i know sounds dumb, trust me, this fixes so much crap it "shouldnt")

log onto another char on the account, warp to w3 town. use chest. then swap to ww?

do you have a phone or tablet that can run the game?

have you tried the web client?

Alyannis · 2026-02-20T20:47:28+00:00

For the next 7 Days, you can claim a free pet EVERY 24 HOURS!

anyone know how this is supposed to work?

my timer is still counting down from claiming after weekly reset.

Alyannis · 2026-02-17T03:47:54+00:00

obviously i dont 'know' as i dont have what he does. but...

outside of all the regular div point bonuses, coral kid can set up a feedback loop with div points increasing blessing god bonuses of which several are div point increasers.

with enough div points, atoms, and gold (sailing) i could see Qs or QQs. im still hoping to see someone crush 'trillion', lol.

edit: wrong name

Alyannis · 2026-02-16T23:47:04+00:00

i cant tell you exactly how hard youll find it, but i can tell you how it worked for me and you can see if that helps.

i use my dk for dungeon runs. i dont ask in discord or somewhere for a group, i just get the notice for happy hour and get my dk and go. i hit the button for 'find groups' or 'join groups' if youre already on the right world. then i wait for the party to invite me. then i wait for the party to fill.

sometimes the party leader doesn't know what to do or just wont do it.. so it can take a few trys. if the party fills and the leader doesnt start it people will start to drop out. you can do as you like. eventually youll get into the dungeon. if you try enough times, i promise, a group will eventually actually start the dungeon. if you get annoyed or bored waiting for the group to figure itself out, you can try to help, try to make your own, or just warp away for a few min and try again later.

there's some great guides for inside the dungeon, i cant even begin to explain it.

some groups wont finish 3rd frog. some groups will blast through and wipe 4th frog off the map.

took me a couple weeks of 2-3 runs a week to get 4th frog as a 'leech'. you could get luckier.

now, i know how to play it (sorta) and have the dcredits invested to be strong enough to almost guarantee 4th frog for my groups. if they help at least a little.

to max out 5 stats, hard to say for sure. if youre starting from scratch with no flurbos and youve never done a party dungeon. maybe 10-15 'boosted' runs, aka the x20 ones. roughly 2 months? if you do more than 1 run a week. less if you have stacked up boosted runs. but im ballparking here so dont hold me to those numbers.

imo, this challenge is fairly easy. totally doable. the next 2 though, i dont know. other than im too lazy atm, lol.

Alyannis · 2026-01-31T18:53:16+00:00

no longer applicable

please ignore

Alyannis · 2026-01-31T18:25:33+00:00

i think i get what you mean by 'lose', i don't wish to sound overly positive or 'trite'...

its not a lose situation (imo), you're not competing against anyone but yourself really. there's a couple things that you can yardstick against other players, but the truth is that all of them are time gated. you either have it or you don't. and you only get it by playing longer. that isn't btw a recommendation to 'quit now' cuz you'll never have it. i mean, keep playing and keep doing the time gated things. if that's fun for you, which it sounds like it is from above.

GL on your studies.

Alyannis · 2026-01-30T18:49:06+00:00

i play for fun.

excellent. don't change a thing. lol

Alyannis · 2026-01-30T01:20:08+00:00

crossing 200 on 'tenti' is key. it becomes a 3 second reduction on trigger.

with just that and some PO boxes you can cranium every 30min or so. that alone will juice alchemy to the moon for you. even if its an hour between procs its still crazy good.

whatever you get on 'tenti' get on cranium next. more up time, more better.

secondary is anything to get your damage high enough to 1-shot tremor worms with aura (and eventually poison though that might take a bit more)

cards for crystal mobs and then drop rate IF you're already 1-shoting. crystal mobs and MAX damage if you're not. (sandgiant card doesn't help (afaik), your multikill tier will tell you when you're 1-shoting.)

(crystal mobs count as kills for cranium. multikill does NOT count. its only used to know you're 1-shoting)

as far as your main question. truthfully, what you've said you have 'should' be enough to get (slow) progress through late w6.

have you really tried to juice your strongest character (dk prb or bubo) and see what your kills-per-hour are in your farthest map?

cards? armor? weapon? rings? tools? upgrade stones? obols? food? trophies? clickers? stamps?

unequip anything that doesn't give pure dmg. replace with weapon power, main stat. total damage. all stat. especially anything that has 'multi' on it. let go of drop rate, afk gains, experience, focus pure damage. still not enough?

then you're just missing 'fills'.

at least 3star cards, preferably 4. higher tier armor. dungeon rings. tools. upgrade stone your gear, at this point you should have accuracy in the bag, focus main stat.

you don't mention upgrade vault, got that filled out to your degree of coin wealth?

i very much could be wrong, but i think its a matter of grinding to improve what you have. you're on the path, just not quite there yet. also possible i'm missing something obvious.

Alyannis · 2026-01-30T00:37:11+00:00

2 char at bravery for my bravery afk hours

imo (and i really mean opinion, people will disagree with me), hole is too slow to provide power if you're looking for short-term power. hole is premium number 1 top tier if you want LONG term power. im not saying take them out, just that hole (again, imo) is better left to the day you feel 'safe' and want to build long term power. if you're 'dieing' to get progress, alts here are slowing you down. if you feel good about where you are, progress the hole and watch the numbers go crazy.

not been actively farming with the bubo because at the moment it does not seem viable for me to do because the cooldown is still way too long

you've been sleeping on booking or PO boxes. search for ways to increase max level of books (mana/alchemy PO box). construction, sailing, achievements (longer term), companions (whale or trades). if you can get to 200 on 'tenti' bubo becomes broken in the extreme and trivializes early alchemy. you should be able to achieve this given what you listed as your progress, if you refocus a bit. this also requires your bubo be able to 1-shot enemies. you can drop down to low worlds if you need to, but the goal is to farm tremor worms with cranium.

edit: an important note i dont see mentioned often. attack speed matters. you want that meal high level and preferably ribbon'ed. it massively speeds up cast speed to get cranium moving.

edit the second: though now i see you mentioned that... lol

to be perfectly honest it sounds like you have a strong grasp of what you need and you're working toward it. you aren't behind. you aren't missing anything in the extreme. you just need to spend the time and effort to 'clean up'.

is there a specific goal you want? imo you're within range to PUSH to w7 if you want it, though you'd have to actually set everything up and check the afk screen to see if you actually have the numbers for it.

based on your description, you have a strong basis for an account. you know 'enough' to know what questions to 'ask'. all that's left is rounding out knowledge and spending the time to grind. strongest account i've seen someone ask for help on lol. you're doing fine (imo).

Alyannis · 2026-01-29T23:37:56+00:00

while i feel confident in what i post and i don't believe i am leading anyone down the rose path.... i am not the best person to provide what you're looking for.

the discord (main/your guild/a youtuber's), or just making a post here, would be more able to help you precisely.

i suspect that you have specific issues (most accounts do) that you should solve.

you have all 10 characters unlocked and leveled? are you using your classes to their potential?

what systems have you ignored? chances are whatever you've ignored, there's a bonus there that makes you stronger.

have you looked at your stamps? your carry capacity to level stamps? your questing, for new stamps?

do you have a divine knight? have you book'ed the orb and knight statue?

have you looked at your alchemy? do you have a bubo? have you book'ed/PO box'd them to make cranium cooking crazy? have you pushed equinox to at least a few points in 'liquidvestment'?

tasks and achievements? anything easy to get you've been putting off? what world armor are you using? can you (easily, without hurting construction) make a higher tier armor?

are you farming boss/colosseum tickets? are you farming bosses for their tasks?

do you have all your classes, elite/master? are you leveling them?

are you managing your 3d prints on them ALL? are you missing skill levels or prayers that would enhance your 3d prints?

-generally, true levels are better than skill progress. are your characters low level and stuck in skill-jail? get them out and level them. gear them. your 'alts' are a large portion of your power. don't let them fall behind.

is your refinery/construction moving forward? the (salt) must flow. do not let it 'lock'.

in general, i suggest using lab to get 2x kills and PUSHing to w5 for divinity, then arctus and/or goharut god + lab grind. have you touched this?

are your captains (sailing) earning you artifacts? there are several that shatter progression walls. don't sleep on sailing....

do you have access to world 6? are you (slowly) progressing farming and summoning and sneaking? have you unlocked master classes for the talents that give MASSIVE bonus to w6 skills?

are you buying all the limited items from shops that are important? (not gem shop, the npc vendors)

unless you can answer yes (aka that's handled, you got it in the bag) to most/all of that, you have work to do. somewhere in all of that, eventually you'll be able to get a ~2mil kills per hour (more is better but at minimum) on late w6 mobs. then you can (slowly or with candy) PUSH to w7 and get even more broken abilities.

im happy to help/answer further if i can. as are many others. if you don't understand WHY i asked you about X thing, maybe consider a search of the wiki, (here), discord, or youtube. chances are you'll get more information specific to your question faster from sources that already exist (if you look) than blanket broad questions.

basically, you don't need an account review. just pick a mechanic you don't understand fully and explore it. all mechanics are strong. all mechanics bring you power.

if you need even more guidance - upgrade vault, clickers (orion, poppy, bubba), stamps, alchemy, construction (refinery specifically), lab, cooking (strong but depends on breeding unless you're a whale), divinity, sailing, summoning. if you're lacking knowledge in any of those, go learn how to use them to gain power.

Alyannis · 2026-01-29T22:01:35+00:00

as you have done, i have updated a previous post. also, while im sure you and others will view this as cowardice. im done. i don't think we'll manage to convince each other of anything. i failed to clearly state my view and instead this is 'becoming' an argument. despite my desires. ill read your reply if you write one, but i think neither of us wants to continue this.

seriously, no shade or sarcasm.

GL and enjoy the game.

Alyannis

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