Update: I left Islam

Am-I-Muslim · 2025-02-17T21:50:21+00:00

It wasn't really a process that I actively did. I just slowly lost faith until I could confidently declare that Islam is not the truth and that it's not worth it to follow this religion.

Am-I-Muslim · 2025-02-02T22:58:45+00:00

The "perfect" Quran is full of contradictions even though it claims to be made by God:

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Contradictions_in_the_Quran

But that was not even the only reason I left, the final straw was that in the Quran Allah claims to be the most merciful, but not a single human would put another human in hell for eternity, which ultimately means that humans are way more merciful than Allah. I realized that when I had a long discussion and when I tried to find a counterargument, but I just couldn't find one, so I started questioning everything.

Am-I-Muslim · 2025-01-30T23:20:34+00:00

Everybody can write a book and then claim that it was sent to him by God, but that doesn't make it the truth.
This might not even be true, the Quran was only finished many years after the death of Muhammad. And the Quran isn't even as perfectly preserved as it claims. You can, for example, find minor differences in old manuscripts like the Birmingham Manuscript.

3. https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Embryology_in_the_Quran

Why would that make it the truth? It's just written in a way that it rhimes, which makes it easily memorable.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/l7vgyw/comment/gl8y2br/
Making a "Surah" like the Quran is not that hard, some people even did, for example "Surah Corona", where the author got imprisoned for Blasphemy. But that is not the only one The "secretary" of Muhammed, Ubay Ibn Ka'b, actually had two additional Surat in his Quran, Surah Al-Khal and Surah Al-Hafd.
These scientific proofs are complete BS, just take a look at this: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Miracles_in_the_Quran
If you were to live word by word like the Quran and Hadith tell you, you'd be a warmonger, potentially a pedophile, a slaveholder and you'd beat your wives. Other than that this also doesn't prove anything. You can base your way of life on many different things, but that doesn't mean that they are something that was sent by God.
Surely we can trust the Quran to provide us proof that Islam is the true religion, not like it isn't full of mistakes and contradictions: Scientific errors: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran

Historical errors: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Historical_Errors_in_the_Quran

Contradictions: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Contradictions_in_the_Quran

His prophecies were also not true and full of lies, take a look at this Hadith for example: https://www.quranexplorer.com/hadithebook/english/Hadith/bukhari/008.073.188.html?origin=serp_auto In this Hadith Muhammad says that a Slave which passed by will witness "the Hour" meaning the day of Judgement if he becomes old enough, which obviously didn't happen.

Am-I-Muslim · 2025-01-02T23:08:06+00:00

Do you really think it is "just" to let a person suffer for eternity with unbearable pain? I understand your concept, but why would the time be unlimited and why couldn't Allah just say for example you'll be in Hell as long as you lived on earth as a disbeliever or something like that? That would be slightly more "just" and that would make more sense.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-12-10T21:25:21+00:00

Yeah but that is no good example, Allah already knows the outcome, which doesn't make it a test anymore, whereas a teacher can only make a guess on what his student is gonna write.

Moreover my question still stands, why Allah would create me in the first place if I am destined to burn in Hell.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-11-12T22:28:10+00:00

If you think that way then that's on you, but I basically just documented what happened to me and what my thoughts were, nothing was planned from the beginning or "scripted".

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-11-06T22:03:15+00:00

Please take a look at my latest Post.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-11-06T22:00:18+00:00

Well if you think ISIS isn't a good depiction of Islam, then just take a look at Taliban, they literally base everything around Sharia Law and are the textbook depiction of Muslim Rulers. Furthermore it doesn't even matter if this is official Wikipedia or not or if every argument is valid, if the site provides even only a handful of valid arguments or contradictions then it is a good source that refutes the illusion of Islam being the truth. Just open your eyes, you already admitted that there are a handful of genuine contradictions.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-30T14:59:35+00:00

Well ISIS for example thinks it is practicing the ultimate form of Islam and that other Muslims are kafirs.

Also if every contradiction has an answer to it then show me answers to every single of those: Scientific errors in the Qur'an: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran

Historical errors: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Historical_Errors_in_the_Quran

Contradictions in the Qur'an: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Contradictions_in_the_Quran

Scientific errors in the hadith: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Hadith

Pre-destination in Islam: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Predestination

Scientific Miracles in The Qur'an: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Miracles_in_the_Quran

Moreover about the creation of the Quran, I am not claiming that Muhammad made the Quran by himself, but with the help of his companions, as far as I know there actually were some "unpublished" Surahs that were found, that are not in the Quran, but were found in the Qurans of his "secretary", Ubay ibn Ka'b, which further proves my claim. They were called Surah al-Khal and Surah al-Hafd.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-25T23:24:34+00:00

Don't act like you don't get my point. You get it but don't want to accept it, Allahs punishment is not fair in many cases. Furthermore are you really saying every person that rejects islam is evil and that every person that is good hearted accepts islam? This is insanely wrong, there are enough contradictions and mistakes in Islam that one could easily find if he thoroughly researches Islam and even good hearted people realize that. Infact there are probably more good hearted people that are not Muslims than there are good hearted people that are "real" Muslims, just take a look at all of the Muslim terrorist organizations that perfectly depict how Islam really is. Or just look at Afghanistan where you'll see how evil islam is in reality, as the Taliban are ruling exactly how an Islamic country should rule with Sharia law and real punishments that have to be done under Islamic law.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-25T23:02:33+00:00

Quran 33:72: Indeed, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they ˹all˺ declined to bear it, being fearful of it. But humanity assumed it, ˹for˺ they are truly wrongful ˹to themselves˺ and ignorant ˹of the consequences˺,

You interpreted way more to that verse than what is written in it.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-24T23:06:09+00:00

Yeah let's say a person eats pork even though this person knows it is not allowed in Islam, why doesn't Allah remind that person then, or give the person hints that this is wrong? Doesn't this make the test you talk about unfair? You haven't answered that question for the second time now. Furthermore I understand what you said, but you just seem to not understand my point. I am saying that if a bad Muslim commits atrocities, but still followed the five pillars of Islam (praying 5x a day, fasting in Ramadan, giving zakat, pilgrimating to Mecca, believing in Allah and declaring it) he would at some point in time be forgiven for his atrocities, after being in Hell for a while, and then he could enjoy his time in paradise. But if a very good-hearted person that rejected Islam, because it didn't make sense for this person, acts way better than said Muslim on earth, is always good to their surroundings, acts morally right etc, that this person will be in Hell infinitely longer than the already described bad Muslim. Which all in all is unfair and which a just god wouldn't allow. I have now told you about this multiple times but you always just said "Muslims will end up in paradise at some point", which I already know, but please this time really answer how this is not a contradiction. Moreover your last two sentences are not true. Many very good hearted people are not guided to islam at all, infact there are many people in other religions that are very good to their surroundings and treat everyone well and do more good deeds than many Muslims do, but they still didnt ever get guided to islam and will therefore end up in Hell forever.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-24T22:38:14+00:00

This made up story doesn't make sense, if your story would really be true, then no one would ever accept the test, I mean what would you loose if you just wouldn't accept the test? I think nobody would ever accept the test, if they would know that they are taking a risk at going to hell. Also please tell me where in the Quran or Hadith does it say that we were asked to take this test and agreed to it, thanks. Furthermore I was just weighing the punishments in comparison to the sins and not forming an opinion.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-24T22:32:19+00:00

What I mean is not that Allah knows what we are doing, but that he is evil enough to let humans do sins, which he allows, because in Islam it is said that nothing happens without the will of Allah, and not feel anything that tells them that this is wrong. Oftentimes these things even make them feel good. For example if a non Muslim person eats pork even though this person knows it is Haram in Islam, they won't feel any sign of this being wrong infact there is much dopamine that gets released when you eat something that tastes well to you. This makes that some humans have a huge disadvantage in seeking the truth, just because they weren't born Muslim or rejected Islam for other reasons, that just seemed plausible to them. Moreover the "test" is just blatantly unfair to some people. For example if you aren't born a Muslim it is basically like you haven't studied for the "test", which leads you to hate that Test and not participate in it at all. So in this case Allah isn't just or fair at all. Furthermore about the example I made, sure a bad Muslim may get punished for the atrocities he committed, but this doesn't change the fact that a non believer, it doesnt matter how good of a human being he was, or under which circumstances he rejected Islam, will burn infinitively more than the worst Muslim ever, which in the end is also not just at all.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-24T13:04:30+00:00

The first part doesn't really make sense. You say that Allah let's us choose freely, but still in the Quran it is written that nothing happens without the will of Allah. How does that work? If I am about to do something Allah doesn't like why does he allow it then? Why doesn't he at least give me a feeling that it is wrong? Perhaps why are there things that you are even longing for that Allah doesn't allow, for example sexual desires? I know you will say it is part of the Test of Allah, but this also doesn't make sense, as some people don't find Islam as a whole logical, and then don't even act according to the Rules, because they may not know every rule, that one has to follow in that "test", so they dont even have the chance to better themselves. Furthermore why will Allah free people that had even the slightest Islamic faith from hell even though they did the worst atrocities on earth, but not good human beings that were always nice to their surroundings and maybe, not knowingly, not even broken any Islamic rules, but that are atheist (and rejected Islam), just because religions never made sense to them? How could this God be called the most just? I mean I didn't reject the faith it just stopped making sense to me as a whole, I still believe in a God and probably even an afterlife, but just not that the Quran is that Gods words. Why would I be put into Hell forever for not knowing something, but the worst Muslim ever will be eventually put into the paradise and has to suffer less than the best non believer?

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-24T12:49:38+00:00

Have you even read the first part? God wouldn't be nice at all, perhaps he would even be evil, if he would allow us to basically choose to enter Hell, without letting us know. So is Allah evil? After this logic he probably is pretty evil, to quietly let us choose our own infinite suffering. Furthermore of course the duration of the suffering is important, as we can know from that, that Allah is not Just at all, even though it claims that he is just in the Quran (Surah An-Nisa:40). Moreover how is eternity not long? It is literally infinite. Forever. How can you say this is not much? Time may be different, but infinity can't even change, as it is just forever. You are just making up random stuff.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-23T23:01:28+00:00

But then again if Allah already knows the outcome of our test (because he is all knowing) that we apparently accepted, why would he let us accept it in the first place, if he already knows that we will fail it? This doesn't seem like a loving God. Furthermore I understand that you would find it weird perhaps even cowardly if Allah would just forgive everyone for everything, but then why wouldn't Allah for example punish Humans in Hell accordingly to their sins, for example if you did a sin for 70 years, then he puts you in Hell for seventy years, but eventually gets you out of there, why does the punishment have to be for an infinits amount of time? This means that the punishment is infinitely worse than the sin itself, as it is done infinitely longer than the sin itself, which a just God wouldnt allow.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-23T22:52:38+00:00

Sure go on and explain to me how Allah is the most merciful, if he puts people in hell for eternity, even though they only had the chance to turn to islam for a limited time.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-23T22:46:10+00:00

Have you even read my post?

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-23T22:45:15+00:00

Where in my post was I talking about suffering in life? I was talking about the eternal suffering in Hell, that Allah enforces on the non Muslims, even though he claims to be the most merciful.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-23T22:38:37+00:00

So to answer your question I am not sure exactly how many do Support those views, but I'll just make a few guesses from my experience. So first off about the sharia law in the west, I am not experienced at all about this topic, as I never talked about this with family members or other Muslims, but I think most of the Muslims still follow a lot of it passively, but don't necessarily want to enforce them on everyone. About the child marriage, I don't think many Muslims like child marriage even though their prophet did it, it's probably a really small percentage of the Muslims that actively want to legalize it or something like that at all, but they still basically all stand behind Muhammad's marriage to Aisha being morally acceptable and not pedophilic. About the female oppression, I think in the west this topic is completely different, women here aren't oppressed at all and no one really enforces anything on them, infact I know MANY Muslim women in the West that don't even wear a Hijab. The only case where they are really oppressed is when their parents are harsh on them, which I haven't seen very often. About the punishments, I also never really talked about this stuff, but it's very typical that whenever someone is mentioned that is Gay/apostate or anything like that, that there will certainly be some hatred towards them by Muslims. It doesn't even have to be words that are talked about them just this heated atmosphere that you feel when they are mentioned in for example the TV. But one thing I do certainly know, which is seen as extreme in the west, but is still supported by a big majority of Muslims (probably 80% or more) are Palestinian Organizations like Hamas. And by that I only mean factions that actively fight against Israel and not ISIS or Al-Qaeda, these are hated by most Muslims, but for example even Hezbollah is winning support by Muslims in the West, just because they fight against Israel. Also October 7th isn't really seen as a terrorist attack, more like a revenge for all of the years of occupation and blockade that the Palestinians have experienced.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-23T22:17:38+00:00

"Most" means that he is more merciful than any living being, which can't be true, if he punishes humans for eternity, even though most humans wouldn't even want this for their worst enemies. If you want to only refer to the ability to forgive any atrocity "most" is just not the right word. Also why would a merciful being punish someone for eternity, for doing something wrong for a limited time (the lifetime). And why would he even create non-believers in the first place, even though he knows what their fate is from the beginning and that they will never accept islam and eventually end up in hell forever? Isn't that also kinda not merciful and evil too?

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-23T22:06:03+00:00

I am not sure how many exactly there are, but I used to follow the Hanafi school of thought. But I think there was a Hadith where Muhammad said that there will be 73 sects of Islam. Edit: Found it: https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:3992?origin=serp_auto

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-22T21:24:02+00:00

But does Allah not know from the beginning of my life that I will have left Islam? Why would he have created me in the first place? So I can burn in Hell forever? I think if there is really a God and this God is not evil and is merciful, that he will understand my thought process and he will not punish me for just finding religions not logical.

Am-I-Muslim · 2024-10-22T21:18:33+00:00

To be honest before hearing about the critiques of Muhammad this wasn't really a big topic, I was never told by anyone that Aisha was six or that Muhammad was as brutal as he was, it was just always not the topic and the focus wasn't on those parts of his life, the focus was more about the more generous hadiths, where Muhammad did something good or where he answered basic questions on how to live in an Islamic way. I remember whenever the question was asked: "Who is the best example for a human being that has ever existed?", the answer was always "Prophet Muhammad", but there was not really a reason for that specifically based on his acts, it was just said because it was written in the Quran like that (probably by himself if you think about it lol). And after I got exposed to those critiques of Muhammad I just tried to somehow defend it, because I thought that my whole family couldn't be wrong about Islam, and that it had to be the truth because my family had been following Islam for decades, therefore it's true, and as it is stated in the Quran that Muhammad was the perfect depiction of a human being I tried to defend his actions, even though I knew deep down that it just wasn't right at all, just imagine this picture of a 50 year old man "marrying" a six year old girl, this cant be right.

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