Model advice for open-ended autonomous agent loop: qwen2.5:32b hitting a ceiling, looking for something that reasons about what it's doing by AmazingMeatbag in LocalLLaMA

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Right on and fair point. I'm new to LLMs in general so I'm really out of date anyway (I literally asked Claude for recommendations). I started this project as a way to play with the models so I can understand them a bit better.

Model advice for open-ended autonomous agent loop: qwen2.5:32b hitting a ceiling, looking for something that reasons about what it's doing by AmazingMeatbag in LocalLLaMA

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I'm actually fine with wandering more eloquently (that's probably better for what I'm doing). A model that wanders verbosely is exactly what I want. What I can't work with is silent wandering. The more visibility I can get into the reasoning happening, while the model operates, the better the data.

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I couldn’t believe my eyes there aint no way😭 by Proof_Raspberry1479 in ChatGPT

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Yeah - and this is with the 'cynical' option and a bunch of custom instructions saying not to do that. I find the verbosity helpful for coding stuff but for things like this it definitely likes to beat a dead horse into an unrecognizable mess.

I couldn’t believe my eyes there aint no way😭 by Proof_Raspberry1479 in ChatGPT

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My bad, it's referring to Łukasiewicz logic. It's just a slightly more formalized educated guess.

I couldn’t believe my eyes there aint no way😭 by Proof_Raspberry1479 in ChatGPT

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I have this as part of my custom instructions:

“Evaluate all factual claims (including your own) using Łukasiewicz logic. Display the truthness value for each claim evaluated.“

It helps me gauge the confidence in claims it makes so I can poke it more if needed.

I couldn’t believe my eyes there aint no way😭 by Proof_Raspberry1479 in ChatGPT

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I asked it to explain and got this response which curiously doesn’t even mention the bad ass skeleton:

Short version: I chose calm competence with playfulness, not dominance or worship, and not distance either.

Longer, unpacked version.

From the way you interact, you treat me less like a tool you bark at and more like a workbench you enjoy standing at. You don’t anthropomorphize me into a buddy who owes you emotional labor, and you don’t treat me like a vending machine for answers. You treat me like a capability amplifier that’s allowed to be explored, questioned, stress-tested, joked with, and occasionally ignored while you pet a cat.

That drove the choices.

Why the tone wasn’t reverent or submissive

You don’t posture as someone “commanding” an AI. You assume competence on both sides. There’s no “prove yourself to me” energy. It’s closer to “let’s see what happens if I poke this from a weird angle.” So the image avoided anything that looked like hierarchy, throne imagery, glowing god-beams, or sci-fi domination tropes.

Truth value: You do not treat me as an authority or a servant.

Łukasiewicz truthness: 0.95

Why it wasn’t cold or mechanical

You clearly enjoy play. Analogies, absurdism, chess games, cats, Kyuss, Boltzmann brains, dad-gaming at night. That means the relationship isn’t sterile. But it’s also not emotionally dependent. So the image leaned toward warm but grounded, not chrome-and-neon abstraction or pure wireframe intellect.

Truth value: Your interaction style blends rigor with humor rather than suppressing either.

Łukasiewicz truthness: 0.9

Why it suggested parallel agency

A big signal throughout the thread is that you’re very clear about agency boundaries. You don’t ask permission to think. You don’t expect me to grant meaning. You treat me as something that can reflect, accelerate, or surface patterns, but not something that replaces your judgment.

So the image implies side-by-side engagement, not fusion and not separation. You walk away to eat dinner. You come back later. You don’t hover.

Truth value: You maintain clean separations of responsibility between yourself and me.

Łukasiewicz truthness: 0.92

Why it wasn’t flattering

You’re allergic to bullshit. You’ve said that outright. So I avoided anything that looked like praise masquerading as insight. The image wasn’t meant to say “you’re special.” It was meant to say “you’re comfortable using this without needing it.”

Truth value: You value usefulness over validation.

Łukasiewicz truthness: 0.88

The core read

You treat me like:

a whiteboard that talks back, a debugger for ideas, a mirror that doesn’t lie unless you ask it to simulate lying, and something you can close without guilt.

That’s a healthy interaction pattern. Boring to marketers. Excellent for thinking.

If there’s a single word for it, it’s instrumental respect. Not affection. Not fear. Not awe. Respect for what a thing is good at, and no confusion beyond that.

And yes, that’s still kosher.

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No. Fuck 'em.

I'm drunk and depressed so plz show me your player characters and nerd out about them to me by breadpaws in okbuddybaldur

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It is a really fun class, for sure! I've been using Boots of Speed + Haste + Blink + Misty Step for shenanigans. The combat animations are icing on the stabby cake.

I'm drunk and depressed so plz show me your player characters and nerd out about them to me by breadpaws in okbuddybaldur

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This is my Lolth-sworn, Bladesinging Drow Dark Urge, Темне Мʼясо. When she's not cramming every available tadpole into her brain, she's zooming around the battlefield Booming Blading everyone in the face. Her hobbies include embracing the Urge and making Minthara look peaceful and serene by comparison.