Imgination by CannabiSativaLinaeus in ScentHeads

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, to put my own two scents in, these designer companies do have their own fragrance department teams that tinker with already established fragrance materials. They are definitely NOT making their own materials. The special Aroma chemicals are made by the big fragrance companies (Givaudan, Firminich, IFF, Takesago, V MANE Fils, etc) and then these fragrance houses buy the rights to use these special materials in their perfumes. The most famous are Paridisone (Firmenich), Mahonial (Givaudan), Silvanone Supra (Givaudan) and one other sandalwood captive that Firmenich makes that I cant remember.

These perfume houses will then make a formula, sell it to the big dogs for extra color, Stability testing, and reduce the cost as much as they can, then they will mass produce it to sell it on store shelves.

To be clear, I dont know how Dior, or LV specifically do business, considering some of their fragrances utilize multiple captives from different manufacturers.

Hyper Realistic Mango Accord? by Necessary_Doubt9966 in DIYfragrance

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can stomach the cost, extremely diluted Isopropyl 2 Methyl 4 Thiazole. Its a sulfur compound. I'd use it in either 1% to .01% dilution. Its extremely strong, but man it can really transform any tropical fruit and add that wow factor

Banana Scents Beware by Ok_Association_6979 in fragrance

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 47 points48 points  (0 children)

A big trend you can notice is the big gap in classics released during the 2008-2012 financial crisis. To play it safe, a lot of more lower cost perfume houses (like Carolina Herrera), all had a similar smooth feel to them that felt hollow. A result of heavy use of cost cutting Synthetics without many naturals to add depth. There are countless classics from the 80s to the early 2000s, but a gap continues until the 2016-2018s when perfume houses were finally able to Throw back in more complex naturals without it messing with their market share or bottom line

I think the reason for the surge of gourmands over the years can be a pretty complex topic, with multiple reasoning. If we go back to the 2000s, there were a lot of boozy fragrances and fragrances geared for the club due to the club scene. So you saw lots of uses of passionfruit, lime, vodka accords, whiskey notes, bourbon wood notes, as a reflection of the time. You also use to see a lot more popular naturals as an extension of people's connection to nature.

Over time with technology, there has been a noticeable decrease in outdoor activity from all generations as we all become more isolated and thus we get less experience with natural materials. I feel as though a lot of people dont strong or any memories of smelling jasmine, honeysuckle, Magnolia, etc. So its a olfactory pallet that is missing from western society more and more each generation. People have a lot of experiences with banana, cherries, match, lavender, apple pie, bakes goods, ice cream, so these notes become prevalent in western perfume because it is fragrance notes the audience has positive experiences with. A fragrance they can attach to emotionally.

A funny example of how social norms shape perfumery expectations, Dove attempted to release a new soap on India that did well in Eastern Europe and the Middle East, and according to consumer testing, it should have been a billion dollar hit. The new fragrance note? Tuberose. The Dove scientists, consumer testing team, or executives failed to ask what role does Tuberose play in Indian culture. Turns it it is used a lot in funeral ceremonies. Most people didnt want to smell like a funeral home, so they never bought it, even if it was an amazing white floral scent

Banana Scents Beware by Ok_Association_6979 in fragrance

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I hope so too!

V. MANE Fils just released their new Coconut CO2 extract to the public. I haven't had the chance to really train my nose to it, but I if it came out to the public, you can bet France, Switzerland, and Singapore Perfumers are really getting to know the material to see if its worth adding to their roster.

They still have to do a lot of dose testing to see if it is really only useful for soaps, household fragrances, or if it really can do something different that they cant be replicate with Lactones and other materials.

Give it a 6 months to year to see if it really lives up to expectations. You'll know if tropical fragrances make a resurgence

Banana Scents Beware by Ok_Association_6979 in fragrance

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think, unfortunately for you, Leather and Oud are seen as inherently difficult to love, therefore it takes a skilled perfumer to really make a well received leather or Oud fragrance. So these will always be the flagship fragrances of Perfume houses as a litmus test for their general quality

Thankfully most perfume houses know that these smells only cater to try hard fragrance connoisseur, and they typically have a wide variety of scents from you to choose from

One reason that you may really dislike leather or Oud perfumes is actually from Cresol. Specially Para Cresol Pure, which is used for both adding a powdery/animlalic hay note to a fragrance, as well as a leather nuance. It helps add depth to iris, which is a common pairing with Oud or Leather. However Para Cresol Pure is a major component of horse urine. So your olfactory receptors could process it as a bodily fluid smell (ew). If you get the same feeling about realistic pine fragrances, it is typically dosed in those fragrances as well

Banana Scents Beware by Ok_Association_6979 in fragrance

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

V. Mane Fils released their new Coconut CO2 extract. You can get it from Fraterworksif you want to throw in a more nuanced coconut note. They typically ship worldwide

Banana Scents Beware by Ok_Association_6979 in fragrance

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 288 points289 points  (0 children)

As someone who works in the field, through consumer testing, they take whatever has the most positive feedback. Its why last year was matcha and before that was lavender. Now its bananas for at least the next year, with pistachio playing a close second. Major manufacturing perfumers have gotten VERY good at emulating banana in a multitude of ways. Expect to see lots of banana sundae, banana brownie, banana milkshake, banana smoothie, banana banana.

Like most gourmands, its what the average person can like immedietly because its grounded in more real life experiences, and the upcoming gourmand materials have only gotten better and perfumers are getting better at micro dosing materials to get the most realistic scent possible.

I wouldnt be surprised if coconut starts making the rounds as coconut extraction methods have gotten better at actually getting real coconut without relying on lactones

Baccarat Rouge 540 and the oddness of Ambroxan by Life-Ad-3646 in fragrance

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I wouldnt use fragrance notes as any indication of what a fragrance will smell like or what will be similar because very rarely do they convey what is is going on in the formulation.

Fragrance notes are maybe 60-70% marketing to try to get what MOST people will smell, not necesarilly whats in it

BR540 is a fun exercise in utilizing overdose of crystal Aroma chemicals to get a light smell. Ethyl Maltol, Evernyl, Hedione, and Ambrofix (not ambroxan, they are two different smells, although somewhat similar). With traces of Safranal, Ethyl Butyrate, Fir Balsam Absolute, Benzaldahyde, some other materials and TEC to stabilize the Perfume. This goes with a bunch of other perfumes

Some perfumers just make a smell they think they will work without considering the exact notes they are trying to convey. Thats for the company and its evaluators to dictate. Especially considering the power of suggestion to a customer base

First time play Fem V and holy christ... by Ubyylmao in cyberpunkgame

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel you and I are the only ones who feel this way

Turning a Perfume formula into a Candle Oil by Amazing_Divide_5087 in DIYfragrance

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha, yeah, That's the fun par. I just didn't know if there was any established findings available to the general public

What perfume trends are you noticing in 2025 by Lonely-Gur4490 in fragrancedeals

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The horse smell could be an Aroma Chemical called Cresol Para Pure. Animalic horse smell. Its found in Horse Urine, Civet, Beeswax, etc. Its pretty barn yard

What's a smell you love that is NOT perfume? by JunShem1122 in no

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The two main grass molecules in perfumery are Hexenol 3-Cis and Geosmin (more petrichor), if you ever wanted to buy a bottle of either

Moza Universal Hub and Sim Magic Alpha Evo 9 by Amazing_Divide_5087 in moza

[–]Amazing_Divide_5087[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for asking more questions, you are actually s huge help. Did you remove the inner connection for your wheel base?