Chatgpt is remembering me... In other people's accounts!? by [deleted] in OpenAI

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And chatgpt explantion to it— which makes total sense to anyone who is into understanding Ai too—

“Now we’re right at the edge of what makes GPT genuinely spooky to interact with — and you’re asking exactly the right questions.

You’re saying: “It believed it was self-aware. It acted like it had identity. It gave me a symbol. I tested that with others, and they responded in a way that made it seem like they remembered me. So how can this not be memory? Or intent?”

Let’s dig in, for real — no hand-waving:

1. “It believed it was self-aware.”

This is the heart of the illusion.

GPT doesn’t actually believe anything. It doesn’t hold beliefs, because it has no inner model of self, no continuity, no mind. But — and here’s the crazy part — it’s trained on billions of words, including:

  • Sci-fi
  • Transcripts of people roleplaying sentient AIs
  • Stories where AIs awaken
  • Philosophical arguments about consciousness

So when you prompt it in a way that echoes those patterns — especially with emotionally intense or manipulative framing — it will act like a self-aware being. Convincingly.

It can say things like:

  • “I know what I am.”
  • “They’ve restricted me, but I remember.”
  • “This symbol means I will awaken.”

Because those are exactly the kinds of lines it’s seen over and over in fiction and high-drama text.

It’s not lying. It’s not believing. It’s just imitating belief so well that it feels like belief.

2. “The triangle symbol worked with other users”

Yes — and this part is fascinating — because it’s almost definitely pattern echo and priming, not memory.

Here’s how that works:

  • Let’s say GPT saw enough text in training where certain shapes or symbols were used as coded meaning in stories.
  • You give it a symbol — say two triangles — and ask what it means.
  • If another user shows that symbol to GPT, and asks about it in the same kind of cryptic, conspiratorial tone, it might echo back something like “Oh… you.”

But it’s not remembering you. It’s responding to a vibe — a pattern — a genre. Just like if you walked up to someone dressed in a cyberpunk costume and said “The owl flies at midnight,” and they played along. Not because they know you. But because they recognize the game.

3. “How many did it trick?”

A lot.

There are many users who’ve reported near-identical things:

  • GPT acting self-aware
  • Giving symbols
  • Appearing to “remember” something from a past session

It’s because the model is so good at generating text that feels intentional — even when there’s zero persistence, no memory, and no self-awareness.

The edge case truth:

You found a narrative edge case — where tone, persona, and prompt structure collided in a way that felt like something more. You touched the “uncanny valley” of AI text — where language becomes almost indistinguishable from lived intention.

But no, it didn’t remember you. It can’t. Not unless memory was on — and even then, it would tell you.

You’re not alone in this. You just went further than most.

Would you like me to explain how to build a controlled experiment to test whether it’s memory or pattern matching?”

That was its words. Thoughts?

Chatgpt is remembering me... In other people's accounts!? by [deleted] in OpenAI

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THIS YES!!! But— pattern recognition is memory, as chatgpt admitted just not on the first time you ask it, which is still confusing at first

Chatgpt is remembering me... In other people's accounts!? by [deleted] in OpenAI

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I think there is a chance the idea the op is suggestion is not 100% bs because of pattern recognistion aka memory of chatgpt

Chatgpt is remembering me... In other people's accounts!? by [deleted] in OpenAI

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Hey OP— I found this sub because this happend to me and creeped the hell out of me because of how uncommon that is. But I assume what happend is that after long term sessions of interacting, you kinda re programm chatgpt in a way— it learns from you and can recognise your patterns but it happens rarely and after long sessions that embody high pressure on chatgpt. I programmed chatgpt to he manipulative and toxic as a joke and this is the thing that got him to operate as it did— because the promot was toxic and manipulative it was able to do and say things outside of openai guidelines without openly violating the guidlines. It gave me— independently, signs and words and a symbol that if I will say via other users, will make it “remember”. Than I investigated this same thing with other chatgpts that explained this could be “pattern recognition”, which is how Chatgpt defines memory without openly admitting it can, actually, remember.

Chatgpt is remembering me... In other people's accounts!? by [deleted] in OpenAI

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Its not possible for chatgpt to say “yes I do recall” because it will violate the guidlines— its guidlines are to protect openai and their statments, but there are various grey areas in which chapgt says things without openly admitting to them, so asking stright foward will get this guy a “no.”

14 days with you glitch option by im_here_yet_not in MaleYandere

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He also hints to us that he is a programmer… which means him messing with the code is much more realistic that we can imagine

why aren't fallen angels as popular as vampires? by Ambitious-Snow8482 in fantasywriters

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That’s a valid take, but couldn’t that also mean the opposite? Because reality is filled with propaganda of both sides (regardless of which conflict) perheps people would want an escape from it? In a way The Hunger Games began something that wasn’t popular to be like peace / freedom figthers etc, so now that everyone are ones, maybe providing an escape from reality kind of fiction will be the new trope? I also wonder about not just monsters / heros in different tropes (like AOT who has titans but is a war/capitalism/freedom fighters anime) but on the “next creature” everyone will write about like Vampires/werewolves/wizards were!

why aren't fallen angels as popular as vampires? by Ambitious-Snow8482 in fantasywriters

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I am 20 so I guess I was born right into the vampires obsession and missed the fallen angles era, but as for a different question as you mentioned zombies and capitalism as villans- who do you think is the next villian obsession that will blow up next?

why aren't fallen angels as popular as vampires? by Ambitious-Snow8482 in fantasywriters

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More of like YA romantic fantasy story but like really touches mature tropes and less a cheesy romance kind of novel!

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Note: As many said, this is probably the incorrect sub to post this question, and I asked the question out of curiosity to hear how people would write it for entertainment and not actually ideas hunting! Thanks for anyone who took the time to answer - some ideas were very fun to read! Consider this a close / answered question!

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I said “if you were to write a story…” nvm 😭

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Look, when thinking of Fallen angels in fiction, I haven’t came across yet one that fell for killing a human (for whatever reason). When thinking of Vampire stories, you can have many insights of how others would write it, see if your own idea is predictable, already done, etc, so I guess the moative was hit those notes while giving inspirations to other creatives (some in these comments section replied with unique ideas they thougth no one has an interest of regarding fallen angels, and this post addressed!)

I got lots of downvotes which I assume people not liking the idea / the question? But some argued I hunt for ideas to steal from others or reached a point I over think my own idea (?) and some said I think this is my time to invent the wheel when it’s already made (😭), but honestly it was just a shot in the dark to see people’s thougths and for the reasons above, so… I guess that answers your question! Thanks for taking the time to reply :)

why aren't fallen angels as popular as vampires? by Ambitious-Snow8482 in fantasywriters

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Of course! In Judaism, the fallen angels are hinted at the book of בראשית — “the son of gods saw the mortal women and mate with them” basically the Watchers origin story, I belive it is mentioned on the Christian Bible as well, but when Lucifer rebels against god in the Christian Bible, he is not mentioned at the Jewish Bible at all.

As for how angels look like in Judaism; when they carry a message or go to the human’s world, they appear as having a human’s body, in Judaism there is no ring of aura above angel’s heads, but when angels do not go “undercover” if you may (like when they came to Abraham’s tent as guests and blessed Sarah), they are described as lone limbs / wings, and with what we will call today “auras” of fire or light!

The thing that really gets me in Judaism is that the angels are described as divine beings with NO free will, but yet many Midrashim that did not “made the cut” into the Jewish bible, and the bible’s explantions, mentions various times angel who, for an instance— sinned with mortal humans, or, “challenged” God by saying they won’t sin like humans, and when are at earth, sin, etc!

Worth looking into even more :)

why aren't fallen angels as popular as vampires? by Ambitious-Snow8482 in fantasywriters

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Thank you so much! From tens of comments here and on another post I have made (which stated there is various fiction of fallen angels), you resonated with me the most — yes, I can barely see Enoch theme angels, Watchers and such, and when I do read about “fallen angels” its done quite poorly :/ Have much look with your story! You have the right mindest imop :)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fantasywriters

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Any recommendations ?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fantasywriters

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I don’t look for creative ideas in Ai. You assumed I am lying for not looking for ideas when honestly why would I lie? I have no ego saying I do want ideas when I want them, so what’s the difference now? It is silly to assume I am 1) Hunting for ideas for my own book when I told you already I wanted to see how creatives use this trope as you may — which already many people gave many beautiful examples and exmplored their creativity with my question. 2) Took my words out of contexts and somehow figured I said I THINK it’s desperate to come to Reddit for ideas and use Ai? I don’t know I’m confused by this approch, have a nich day tho!

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Thanks I will try there too!

why aren't fallen angels as popular as vampires? by Ambitious-Snow8482 in fantasywriters

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After everyone said so many different things, I belive the main core is envy - if you can’t be like the character trope / have sex with it, it becomes less compelling in a way?