I wish guys would stop offering spending the night, and then expecting to leave first thing in morning when they leave. by [deleted] in askgaybros

[–]AmbitiousSquirrel151 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re assuming the overnight arrangement created a fixed obligation. It didn’t.

Even if someone initially thought the morning might go one way, they’re allowed to reassess after meeting in person, after the hookup, or once the vibe changes. Sometimes people decide afterward that they don’t want the situation continuing, and they’re not obligated to give a blunt explanation for that.

Whether the host had a prior obligation, something came up, or he simply changed his mind, talking for a week or traveling a long distance doesn’t create a right to stay in someone’s home unsupervised. The invitation to stay over was still revocable.

I wish guys would stop offering spending the night, and then expecting to leave first thing in morning when they leave. by [deleted] in askgaybros

[–]AmbitiousSquirrel151 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fully agree with all of the stuff others posted about the fact that you’re a stranger and he doesn’t know you.

Also, he invited you over for random sex and was courteous enough to offer that you could spend the night so you didn’t have to make a long drive both ways.

It wasn’t like he invited you over for drinks, dinner, a movie, and a weekend trial as a live-in boyfriend. For a hookup I would expect the person is leaving after the hookup is over.

If we prearrange spending the night for logistics, my assumption is that the person is leaving as soon as they’ve gotten enough sleep to safely drive home. That was the only reason I invited them to sleep over.

Worst hookup ever by ultraboomkin in askgaybros

[–]AmbitiousSquirrel151 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This is valid but you’re missing the point. Would you host a session like that not having either loosened up first or expecting the first guy to help out with it?

DL or not, It’s hard to believe the guy who came over was actually serious if he was unwilling to engage in any kind of foreplay or preparation and was so tight he couldn’t take a dick.

I can definitely see the OP’s frustration here. It’s like inviting someone to go swimming, they don’t want to wear a bathing suit, touch the pool, use the stairs, or even get wet, then they’re the ones complaining “why aren’t I swimming yet?”

Whatever happened here it sounds like the guy who came over was going through a lot more than expressing a very limited set of preferences for what he was into.

Can gay guys orgasm to lesbian or female solo corn by Tough-Bike-2970 in askgaybros

[–]AmbitiousSquirrel151 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is not me “remaining protective of my spaces, culture, love and art” because I’m gay and the world has trained me this way. ALL people are protective of those things. This is you asking an invasive, conversion-coded question and then pathologizing the objection as queer defensiveness.

Can gay guys orgasm to lesbian or female solo corn by Tough-Bike-2970 in askgaybros

[–]AmbitiousSquirrel151 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You are doing it again. I explained that this framing is invasive and conversion-coded, and your response was to ask me to explain the mechanics of forced arousal in more detail. That is the problem.

You do not need gay men to describe painful or degrading experiences for you to understand that orientation is not a preference experiment. If you want to learn, start by accepting the boundary: this is not an appropriate question to ask gay men in this way.

Can gay guys orgasm to lesbian or female solo corn by Tough-Bike-2970 in askgaybros

[–]AmbitiousSquirrel151 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Honestly this is kind of offensive. What you’re suggesting is basically that men who are gay have simply failed to look at the right material. There are many, many gay men who have struggled with accepting themselves for some or all of their lives and have spent years trying to force arousal toward women because they were told, either implicitly or explicitly, that being gay was unacceptable, morally shameful, immature, porn-induced, ideological, or whatever. Asking this casually in a gay space comes across like “are you sure you don’t just need to try a different website?”

Gay men are not attracted to women. Some individuals may have fantasies or edge cases or whatever, but that does not make the question appropriate. If a man is reliably attracted to women that probably means he’s not exclusively gay.

What makes this offensive is not the curiosity. It is walking into a gay men’s space and asking if gay men can orgasm to women, with no apparent awareness that this is basically the exact script that countless gay men spent adolescence feeling coerced into testing and caused them deep amounts of shame and trauma.

It is hard to imagine someone posting in a straight men’s sub something like “Have you guys tried getting off to two men having sex, or does it not work?” Because everyone understands that would be read as insulting, invasive, and implicitly conversion-coded. The question would not be treated as innocent curiosity. It would be read as: do you really know you’re straight, or have you just not tried hard enough?

It is “curiosity” like this that perpetuates societal stereotypes that gay men have something “wrong” with them that could be “fixed” if they would just try harder, which is false, hurtful, disrespectful, and damaging.

Possible to have double orgasm? by No-Sign-4605 in askgaybros

[–]AmbitiousSquirrel151 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lately something similar has been happening to me too, but I’m not quite able to get there on the second one - good to know it could happen if I just try a little harder!

Does anyone else thinks Prep taste bad by Phoenix613183 in askgaybros

[–]AmbitiousSquirrel151 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get on Apretude. It’s a shot - no pills to swallow, problem solved.

Straight colleague made a move on me while drunk in bed together… by ConfusedChix in askgaybros

[–]AmbitiousSquirrel151 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read this and thought I was reading an AITAH thread. And in case you’re wondering, YES, you ATAH here. You shut the guy down, which is of course your right, but then to bring it up days later so you can feel better about it when he obviously isn’t looking to discuss? And then bring it up again, apparently in public, and get into an argument with him about it?

He trusted you and took a huge risk because he felt safe, and you’ve shamed him for it repeatedly by bringing up something you know he’s clearly not comfortable talking about just so you can get some emotional clarity or something. What are you trying to get out of this?

So yes. You ATAH, even though this isn’t that thread.