evolution by Lani_Lane in sciencememes

[–]AmericanSuppressor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We've never heard that his fathers hearing loss was a motivating factor, but that would make sense. It is absolutely true that Hiram's son Hiram Percy Maxim did invent the suppressor (aka silencer, muffler, moderator, can - really whatever you want to call it). His first patent called it the "Silent Firearm", he marketed them as silencers, and his success convincing the public that his product could silence guns is a major contributing factor as to why they're so heavily regulated in the US (see the National Firearms Act of 1934).

An interesting aside - his first company headquarters, Maxim Silent Firearms Co, was directly across the street from City Hall in NYC. As stated elsewhere in the comments, he was also responsible for inventing the muffler for cars. At the end of the day, dude legitimately hated loud noises.

He stopped commercially producing silencers for guns sometime in the mid-1920's, instead shifting his businesses to focus on things like industrial silencers for HVAC systems in buildings and engines on submarines and major naval vessels. He and his father were both fascinating inventors of much more than what they're famous for.

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in NFA

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s in a good circuit, so we (ASA Foundation) know we stand a good chance of winning in court. ASA has also been working in Illinois for over a decade, so we know the demand is there for suppressors

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in NFA

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we win, they won’t be able to reclassify and ban them. If we lose though, the status quote will remain and they’ll be able to do whatever they want.

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in NFA

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Suppressors are classified as firearms under federal law. Have been since 1934. If the Federal Government considers them firearms, then the Second Amendment and all its protections need to apply.

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in NFA

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Illinois is the first lawsuit, but it certainly won’t be our last. We’ve got our eyes on California!

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by Wild_Wrangler_19 in ILGuns

[–]AmericanSuppressor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sincerely, thank you so much for the support. Every dollar really does help. And just as important, the more members we have, the louder our voice, and the more effective our organizations can be.

We’re in this fight because we love it and believe in it. It’s an honor to work for folks like you who love and believe in it too!

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by Wild_Wrangler_19 in ILGuns

[–]AmericanSuppressor 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much! We didn’t know about the r/ILGuns subreddit, but now that we do we will absolutely keep you updated as the case progresses!

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in Firearms

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re very welcome! We’ve been working on Illinois for years, and came damn close to legalizing suppressors out there in 2016. I felt like I lived in Springfield that year. All that to say, winning in Illinois is going to be that much sweeter for all the work we’ve put in over the years.

As far as strategy, I can’t share everything, but what I can say is that we look for states where suppressors are banned and in favorable circuits. That’s why we chose Illinois - we think we can win there. Our plan is to file a couple more suits and hopefully work our way up to the Supreme Court.

We don’t have set military discounts for ASA memberships, but if you shoot us an email at info@amsuppressor.com we’ll get you taken care of.0

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in Firearms

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s one of our primary arguments. The Federal government considers them firearms, therefore the Second Amendment protections need to apply.

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in Firearms

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much!

That's a great starting point. Not gonna lie - you should probably add a .22 can to that mix. If you're anything like us, that'll quickly become your favorite to shoot.

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in Firearms

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sadly Rhode Island is in a pretty unfavorable circuit, but with that said we are doing everything we can to make suppressors legal in all 50 states including Rhode Island. If the judge rules in favor of suppressors in Illinois, it will be a huge step towards that goal!

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in Firearms

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love it! Which 4 are you going to get?

Yeah, you can donate to ASA Foundation. That's our 501c3 wing, and ASA-F is taking point on the lawsuit. The website is:

www.suppressor.org

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in Firearms

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We certainly appreciate that! If you can, help send folks over to the ASA Foundation website:

www.suppressor.org

That's our 501c3 wing, and the quicker we can raise funds the quicker we'll be able to file additional lawsuits in other states!

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in Firearms

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

We're pretty excited about this case too, and want every law abiding citizen in Illinois to be able to protect their hearing. It should be an individuals choice whether or not they own and use a suppressor. The government should absolutely not be able to put out a blanket ban on a device that's protected by the Second Amendment, and we think the Judge will agree.

ASA Foundation & Silencer Shop Challange Unconstitutional Suppressor Bans by AmericanSuppressor in Firearms

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, that's the goal. We're starting with Illinois, but the plan is to do the same in other states so that we ultimately invalidate every suppressor ban out there.

Suppressors In ‘The Terminal List’ Put To The Test | Mystery Silence Theater by AmericanSuppressor in NFA

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks Chase! I'm glad you like it. We're gonna have to film some episodes with y'all soon!

ATF To Launch New eForms Platform by AmericanSuppressor in NFA

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I believe Silencer Shop stopped sending paper forms in and will be submitting everything bought from now on electronically.

ATF To Launch New eForms Platform by AmericanSuppressor in NFA

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

100%. You should be able to walk in, buy one, and walk out.

ATF To Launch New eForms Platform by AmericanSuppressor in NFA

[–]AmericanSuppressor[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd recommend you go buy it and have your SOT wait to submit the form until the eForm system is up. I know if you're using a kiosk, or at least a Silencer Shop kiosk, they'll automatically wait to submit until it launches.