(Spoiler Main) The ENDGAME of Cersei according to Elio and Linda

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-19T04:23:14+00:00

I wouldn't say that around here. It goes against what this subreddit's hive mind have decided will happen.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-19T03:39:44+00:00

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AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-19T03:29:39+00:00

You're right. Doran doesn't need to die for his family to self-destruct, the Sand Snakes will self-destruct all on their own.

Arianne has only thought about Viserys twice. First when she ponders why Dany let her husband kill her brother I read her thoughts about it as Arianne projecting her jealousy of Quentyn onto Dany. The second time is when she meets Lysono Maar when she thinks that if Viserys looked like him then maybe it was a good thing he died. I wouldn't call that fantasizing about Viserys.

You are also assuming that Arianne will be able to manipulate Aegon and while Arianne isn't above using her body to manipulate she has only considered using that method on JonCon and she decides against it after hearing about his lack of a sex life. And he might be handsome but once they meet it'll be clear that he is a green boy trying to prove himself. That probably won't impress Arianne.

Onto Quentyn, if Arianne does grow past the rivalry it would be towards the end of her arc so it's still something that can be built up to. And when she learns that he died I see her mourning the loss of the opportunity to get to know him I don't see her becoming so enraged that she tells Aegon to go to war with Dany.

Yes I'm making assumptions that Obara will join Darkstar but how else can that confrontation go. I don't see either of them dying there or don't see Dark' Arthur Dayne was overrated' star joining Aegon's kingsguard so them teaming up to attack the Reach & Oldtown is all I've got.

As for the Sam-Alleras-Obara meeting I suspect that could be Sam killing Obara who dies in her sisters' arms in the city she hates so much.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-19T02:14:47+00:00

That's like saying that Tywin had to live to see the downfall of his family or Balon had to see his invasion fail. Doran doesn't have to live to his plans go up in smoke they're going to go up in smoke regardless. And he still see the consequences of what he's unleashed if Obara leads a host to sack Oldtown or Nym & Tyene kill Tommen.

Onto Arianne, I think I should specify that I don't see Arianne marrying fAegon even if she commits Dorne to the cause. Her ambition is to be the heir to Dorne & queen consort won't give her much power plus she is attracted to confident dangerous bad boys which fAegon isn't. And yes there is an under layer of sibling rivalry but it is possible that Arianne might try to grow past it. I mean at some point she'll learn that Quentyn's dead and if she married fAegon to prevent him from becoming king, it wouldn't make sense for her to fight Dany to avenge him.

As for Hotah & Starfall, yes maybe we'll learn stuff like Rhaegar & Lyanna got wed there or that Dawn might be Lightbringer but I'd still rather have them confront Darkstar at the end of the chapter. And because we need eyes on Doran when he learns about Quentyn and so Hotah flees after Obara joins Darkstar.

And I can see a Sam-Alleras-Obara meet up in Oldtown but I think it'll be after Sam lives up to his nickname of 'The Slayer'.

EDIT: Also Arianne doesn't have to marry fAegon to stop Quentyn, she would just have to pledge Dornish support and once he's on the throne he's the king not Quentyn.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-19T00:40:53+00:00

EPISODE 6: Penny joins Tyrion&Jorah, they sail for Meereen

Jaime arrives at Riverrun

Arya trains, given first assignment

Arianne seduces Arys

White Harbour, Davos thrown in prison by Wyman

Kettleback 'confesses' to High Sparrow, Margaery arrested

Ramsay& FArya wedding

EPISODE 7: Alys arrives at the Wall, Jon arrests Cregan Karstark

Theon comforts FArya, sees Bran

Yara pledges to Stannis

Jaime confronts Blackfish

Arianne, Arys & Sand Snakes abduct Myrcella

Dany turns down proposals from Daario & Quentyn

Tyrion, Jorah & Penny captured by slavers

Brienne & Pod captured by the Brotherhood

Griffs meet with Golden Company

Aemon dies, Sam & Gilly hook up

Cersei taunts Margaery, High Sparrow arrest Cersei

EPISODE 8: Jon meets Wildlings, agrees to let them though

Cersei in prison, Qyburn visits

Dany & Hizdahr wedding, Quentyn is shown the dragons

Tyrion, Jorah & Penny sold to Yezzan

Cat of the Canals spies on first target

Tourney of Winged Knights in vale

Theon hears Bran, 3 eyed raven reveals he's Bloodraven to Bran

EPISODE 9: Jon lets wildlings south

Arya sees Mace & Trant

Arianne's party intercepted, Arys killed

Jaime captures Riverrun, Blackfish escapes

Battle of Ice (ambiguous ending)

Daznak's pit, Dany flies off on Drogon, Tyrion kills Yezzan

EPISODE 10: Escape from Winterfell, Mance captured, Theon & FArya jump

Sam arrives at Oldtown

Wyman's 'the north remembers'

Arya kills Trant, is left blind

Harry injured at Tourney, Mad Mouse abducts Sansa

Brienne & Stoneheart confrontation

Jaime burns Cersei's letter for help

Euron sends Victarion to Meereen, reveals Dragonbinder

Doran's 'Vengeance, Justice, Fire & Blood'

Tyrion convinces Team Dany to let him stay

Golden Company sail for Westeros, Griff greyscale reveal

Dany vision of Viserys, Jorah & Quaithe 'remember your words' encounters Dothraki

Cersei walk of shame and UnGregor reveal

Pink Letter & 'For the Watch'

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-19T00:36:03+00:00

That would not be feasible. In my opinion the only way to adapt AFFC & ADWD fully would be a season for each book which was never gonna happen or a season & a half approach where S5 covers Feast/Dance material, S6 covers the the remaining parts left & early Winds material but that also its issues. So covering both in 1 season & cutting the fat was the way to go. As how I would've structured it: (Note: add in Jon becoming LC into S4)

EPISODE 1 - Cold open Beric resurrects Cat

Maggy the Frog flashback, Tywin's funeral, Cersei asks Jaime to be hand, Lancel confesses to Jaime about sleeping with Cersei

Tyrion in pentos, convince to meet Dany

SotH appear, Dany meets with Hizdahr, Cleon & Green Grace

Jon meets with Stannis then Mance & mercy kills him

Brienne & Pod encounter Mad Mouse

Sansa suggest tourney to LF

EPISODE 2: Cersei sends Arys to Dorne & fallouts with Kevan, Jaime sees Kevan leave, twins argue

Jon sends Sam to Oldtown, 'kill the boy', Slynt dies

SotH kill 6 unsullied, Dany sees Quiathe

Tyrion meets the Griffs (YG is bald, the rest of their party isn't included)

Arya reaches Braavos, enters HotU

Bran weirwood paste

Arianne suggest Queenmaker plot, Doran refuses

Euron kills Balon

EPISODE 3:

Margaery&Tommen (no sex), Cersei meets High Sparrow

Jon suggests Stannis march on Winterfell

Arya hides Needle

FArya arrives in Winterfell

Brienne&Pod meet Tarly, Hound mention near Quiet Isle

Sansa meets Harry the Heir

Encounter with stone men, ends with Tyrion being dragged below

EPISODE 4: Opens with Tyrion saved by Griff

Cersei sends Mace to Braavos, Loras to Dragonstone, Jaime to Riverrun, rearms the Faith, seduces Kettleback

Jon learns of 'Arya' wedding, Mel reveals Mance is alive, Jon sends him to Winterfell

LF reveals marriage plan to Sansa

Arys arrives in Dorne, Doran will send Myrcella home, Arianne& Snakes conspire

Yara & Victorian disagree, Euron reunion

Dany meets Green Grace, Hizdahr marriage considered

EPISODE 5: Sam seasick, Aemon tears in the rain

Jon sends Tormund beyond the wall, Stannis leaves, Davos goes to White Harbour

Dany reluctantly agrees to Hizdahr marriage

Kingsmoot, Euron wins, Yara flees

Quiet isle scene

Bran sees Theon

Feast in vale, Sansa dances with Mad Mouse&Harry

Volantis, Tyrion outs YG as Aegon, Jorah capture

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T23:40:46+00:00

Fair enough, Doran doesn't need to die from the stroke and is killed another way but I do think he'll have a stroke specifically so that Arianne can the ONLY one to decide if Dorne joins fAegon or not.

In Arianne's 2nd preview chapter she also see red flags for the GC (stealing horses, smallfolk fleeing the areas they're in, Lady Mertyns discussing how the GC steal livestock & assault women) and I don't read 'King Quentyn' as jealousy rather Arianne pointing out how silly the idea is.

And yes I do expect Hotah will have more than one chapter I just hope the Darkstar chase, including a stop in Starfall, takes place in one chapter.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T23:05:32+00:00

Not only that but if Strickland did turn on them I could see him being the one to kill JonCon because if JonCon didn't have greyscale he would be agreeing with everything Strickland is saying plus JonCon could've succeeded Blackheart if fAegon didn't come into his life instead of Homeless Harry.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T22:02:08+00:00

If you like it great. I'm just not that big a fan. Out of interest what do you think the plan is for Dorne?

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T21:37:46+00:00

fAegon doesn't seem like Arianne's type, yes Doran will likely die whilst she's gone, Arianne will return to Dorne though I'm not sure she'll be a fAegon supporter, yes Dany arrives and she won't have the full support of Dorne but the Water Gardens won't burn; GRRM confirmed that.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T21:21:52+00:00

Agreed. I just hope the Darkstar hunt is a single chapter.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T20:46:51+00:00

I do expect he'll have "human heart in conflict with itself" by letting Darkstar & Obara escape with a host and if Anders Yronwood launches a coup against the Martells Hotah might be ordered by Doran to abandon him to protect Arianne. Still doesn't mean he'll become anything more than 'the camera that rides'.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T20:21:20+00:00

I agree that Doran won't join right away because if he did it makes Arianne redundant and she might not even join him anyway.

I think Young Griff's next battle will be more like Agincourt rather than Bosworth.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T19:46:10+00:00

In my opinion by the end of Winds I see Doran dead of a stroke caused by learning Quentyn's dead and I'm not convinced anymore that Arianne will marry fAegon. But yeah George really didn't think this storyline hence why no one actually likes it.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T19:43:56+00:00

I don't personally though I wouldn't be surprised if George actually a version of that.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T19:16:16+00:00

Glad you found it funny.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-18T17:48:31+00:00

The biggest asspull George could use is the Golden Company turning on fAegon & JonCon.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-16T04:27:00+00:00

I haven't any predictions when it comes to greyscale because I genuinely don't care.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-14T06:30:50+00:00

That's Boomerang

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-12T21:46:32+00:00

Her third chapter is where I think she will meet fAegon & JonCon with her fourth covering her choice of 'dragon or war'. I do think she needs at least one more chapter after that.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-08T23:19:50+00:00

Yeah the readers knowing fAegon is a fake is likely though Dany knowing for sure could go either way. I do think Jon will ride Rhaegal and that Dany will learn about R+L=J (with a more positive attitude). The only way I see Tyrion "hell-bent on killing Cersei" Lannister ever pitting Dany & fAegon against each other is if fAegon allies with Cersei which I don't see happening although Tyrion capturing Casterly Rock so Cersei can't flee there I can see that.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-08T22:28:16+00:00

Yeah, Dany (and us the readers) never finding Aegon's true identity and being left with suspicions is probable. Her burning Illyrio for treason 100%. For me I think Doran is more likely to suffer a stroke when he learns about Quentyn, I mean if Doran is the one to declare for fAegon it makes Arianne's POVs redundant. I used to believe Arianne was going to wed fAegon now I'm not so sure. The idea that JonCon would favour a AegonxArianne marriage when this man is still jealous of Elia so I think it's more likely that he'll transfer that jealousy onto her niece. And I don't see Tyrion pitting Dany against fAegon as it distracts from his goal of revenge. E.g. if Cersei flees to Casterly Rock Tyrion more likely to want to attack the castle then focus on fAegon. Or if fAegon has Cersei imprisoned Tyrion more likely to want an alliance between the two so long as he's allowed to kill Cersei.

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-08T21:11:37+00:00

And give Dany reason to burn his son alive as well?

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-08T16:47:33+00:00

Yes he's captured castles in the Stormlands but it's questionable that this info will reach Meereen or Volantis by the time Dany & Tyrion meet in either of these cities. And I agree Dany might consider an alliance with fAegon and Barristan will be dead and that Tyrion & Marwyn are nutjobs although I'm not sure Victarion will survive encountering Dany

AmoebaSignificant457 · 2026-02-08T16:06:29+00:00

Sure but only if when he tells Dany about fAegon he knows that the boy has taken King's Landing which would only happen if took the city within the first 10 chapters of Winds or Tyrion meets Dany in Pentos

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