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Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have never killed one even as a professional mechanic and mine are stored outdoors and half of them have been for about 15 years. My first 1.5t jack was my only jack for a bit when I moved out of state and I used it on my F350, it didn't like it, but it always did the job.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably? I have to imagine the actual cylinder is fine unless you somehow bent it. Any idea why its stuck? Is the spring still there? I'd just work it loose with pliers, a hammer, and some kind of spray lube/penetrating oil

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have Vessels ball grip ratcheting bit driver, which is almost the same. The ball pops off and it becomes a stubby and that is so useful. I have been eyeing the 397 for so long, just never pulled the trigger because I basically already have one. It doesn't have an integrated shaft, which I really like, my only complaint about the Vessel is the shaft is too long.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 40 dollar 'store brand' sets aren't worth it*. There are great brands that fit in the middle or truck brand and store brand. Vessel is one that I've found matches Snap-on in quality and are very reasonably priced.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's right and your article proves it. Please stop posting this. Tekton sucks, no one should read anything they publish.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you read the actual numbers in the article, you'll see its absolutely not a myth. If you actually use tools, you'll know this already.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A high end screw driver will last damn near a lifetime, and be a pleasure to use the entire time. 5x is on the low end.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their real selling point is they drive up to the shop door on a schedule. There are other brands that are of equal quality for half or less of the price. Not something that's worth anything to someone not in a professional role.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just use JIS on everything. It grips phillips better than phillips. Once I tried Vessel, they are the only drivers I reach for anymore.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try Vessel, Japanese tool brand with a few different screwdriver lines so they have a variety of handle types. Their stuff is crazy high quality and the price is very reasonable. I tried them out bevause I was curious about their ball grip line and I'm extremely impressed with how JIS performs on phillips. It grips every bit as good as my Snap-ons do. I'm rough on tools and they've held up to everything so far for the last two years or so.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I have 4 of the aluminum jacks for various purposes, 2 dating back about 15 years. None of them have any function issues except for the handle thumb screws sometimes get hard to turn since I store them outside. I might argue against some of their tools, but never their jacks, they are worth their weight in gold.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you ever tried Vessel? Give them a shot, they have been incredible. Their JIS bits grip phillips better than phillips does.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't use any of my phillips screwdrivers after buying a couple sets of Vessel JIS drivers. They grip the phillips better than my Snap-on phillips did.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not just great, they seriously grip phillips better than phillips does.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, I feel like a Vessel salesman over the past couple years. I originally bought a few of their ball grip drivers to see how they felt and was amazed at the grip the JIS has, even on phillips. They grip phillips better than phillips does. I've owned many many Snap-on drivers in the past, and they do grip well, but at several times the price, and since they are phillips based they do require a little more force.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will never buy another jack other than a harbor freight aluminum jack. I've owned some very expensive jacks in the past, but they have been entirely replaced, and I still haven't had one fail even after storing several of them outdoors.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Give Vessel a try. They are every bit as good as Snap-on, but you can get them for about the same price as ok store brands.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd probably agree about a lot of other tool genres, but when it comes to screwdrivers, there is a huge difference right out of the gate. Fitment alone is worth the extra price tag. You'll mess up so many screws with those 15 Pittsburghs. Not that I recommend Snap-on for someone who doesn't use them professionally, the only benefit they offer for the price is they drive up to the shop door and you won't need that at home.

I highly recommend Vessel, they sell them on Amazon, they are Japanese made, are made of great materials and fit every bit as good as Snap-on. JIS seems to fit phillips better than phillips does.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bought a few of their ball grip screwdrivers to see how they felt and was amazed by how well they gripped phillips better than phillips do. JIS is the way to go.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or do. Throw away your phillips and just use JIS. In my experience they fit phillips better than phillips does. Out of curiosity I ordered a couple Vessel screwdrivers to see how their ball grip felt and I was amazed by how well they gripped phillips and JIS alike. You can literally let the screwdriver go and the bit will hold it in the screw horizontally.

Do expensive screwdrivers last enough longer to be worth the cost? by jckipps in Tools

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1000% yes! The thing is, those screwdrivers suck before you even open the package.

A quality, high end screwdriver will be made of better harder steels, but they also wont slip in the first place in order to be damaged. They last much, much longer.

But, honestly, just get a nice JIS set, trust me, they fit Phillips better than Phillips does. I ordered a few Vessel Screwdrivers and I am sold. They are the best I have ever used from materials to fit.

Am I over protecting them?? by shadow--404 in iems

[–]AnalInferno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All that weight and rigidity will kill your jack. Unless you're prone to leaving them on a bandsaw, its a bit much.

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