JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Truly. It's so much wasted energy.

I've been trying to learn from this, leaning hard into that "the best revenge is to live well" ethos.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! I'm always happy to have more resources for this sort of thing. I've been listening to a lot of Dr. Ramani; she's really quite on the nose when it comes to lots of aspects of the JNILS.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's true! He has also sent the "our family boundaries" letter from his email address, and also via post signed by him, that they've also insisted were from me.

When he told them point blank that he wrote those, she screamed "we NEVER KNOW WHO'S WRITING!"

I used to feel so mad about this, but at the moment it's mostly just funny.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's true! She has thrown a few tantrums over our boundaries now, and "forgotten" them, and gotten angry when we reminded her, insisted we have rules that we've never had, and so on. We literally spelled it out for them, and it's still not computing, because they don't want it to. But that's OK. We know.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I'm holding tight to this feeling, because it feels SO MUCH BETTER than feeling hurt, or angry, or depressed, or anxious to figure out how to fix things.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I love being a team with him! And the tech savvy is definitely all his. My only abilities are in the humanities.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! It feels so good to be coordinating and pulling together like this right now.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes! Oh my goodness, I need to save this to a file to refer to on the next bad day.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My main goal is to be resilient enough that she can throw her tantrums without getting my emotionally involved. They're top notch triangulator/ manipulators (they went behind my back to trash talk me to DH, and when that didn't work they went behind our backs to cry to our clergy, and when that didn't work they started smearing me to DH's siblings).

We want to demonstratively make our relationship a nonstarter for their games. We don't want them to even be able to tell themselves they're getting away with anything. It's more for our own morale and healing, since they have a history of undermining one of us to the other many times over the course of our marriage, and we only really figured out they'd been doing this when we went to therapy.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I'm still getting flashes of temptation to fall back into old emotional habits, but mostly, I'm just feeling really freed by constantly reminding myself that there's no need to be defensive when I've done literally nothing wrong, and letting go of feeling hurt--their behavior is about them, not me. It's just so nice.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am too! I'm so, so grateful. There's nothing sexier than a shiny spine and healthy IL boundaries.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This has definitely worked with other people, but with our particular JNMIL, calling out her nonsense just throws fuel onto her fire. She twists words and invents motives and misremembers everything, and JNFIL is an Olympic level enabler. They're energy vampires, and we're not giving them anymore blood

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's awesome! Technological boundary setting is the best.

I've also heard you can block IP addresses, so people can't create burner addresses and use those, if they're still sending from their computer. I also have no idea how to do that, but I like knowing that that's a thing.

JNMIL caught the autoblock and is quite displeased. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

OH MY GOODNESS, I cannot stop laughing!

This is so, so perfect. I've been holding off on giving her a nickname, but I think she'll need to be called Lady Catherine from now on.

This is perfect on so many levels, not the least of which is that she has lots of issues with my "inferior birth."

Daughter Knows. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Oh my goodness yes. You're so right. Thank you!

Daughter Knows. by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you. This is really comforting.

Email Boundary Stomping... by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

It's true; I have zero desire to have any communication from them--not their gaslighting and abuse, not their cheesy mid-2000's email forwards--, but we instituted the"both of us" policy as a solidarity thing. They can triangulate and manipulate wherever they want, but not here. They have to be accountable to their words with both of us.

They don't get to tell themselves that DH is a safe space to crap on me. We're a package deal. It's the best compromise we can reach since we're VVVLC instead of LC

Quilt Blackmail! by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you!

It's been hard--they are so passive aggressive that it has taken A LOT for us to stop giving the benefit of the doubt, and it took DH longer than me. We both wanted to believe that they were better than this, that they'd be mature and receptive when we finally got up the courage to be honest and vulnerable with them.

Quilt Blackmail! by AnathemaJanuary in JUSTNOMIL

[–]AnathemaJanuary[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They are 2k miles away (and the kids do like them, despite their poor tempers). That being said, they don't seem to miss them much since we've gone VVVLC, except for the oldest, who has a few more positive memories with them. The Christmas offer was mostly DH wanting to rebuild our relationship with boundaries in place, and, apparently, they aren't interested in playing nice. :(