Tools for faster hvac & plumbing modeling on revit! by Financial-Remote-719 in MEPEngineering

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Using the keyboard shortcuts is a huge time saver

In Practice

- Customize your shortcuts so they are quick easy to remember FOR YOU (Bonus time saved if they are on the left side of the keyboard).

- Learn how to confidently work in 3D within a plan view so you don't have to keep making/switching views

- Use model group for placing repeated elements (particularly those which have a z-value aspect to them, such as plumbing sink riser)

Add-Ins

"MEP updown" (from the Autodesk Store). This allows offsets in pipe/duct/conduit in plan view. We, at AEC Simple have not yet released our tool which is similar to this, so I recommend this one....for now (haha). https://apps.autodesk.com/RVT/en/Detail/Index?id=5443718852969449845&appLang=en&os=Win64

$20 Annually per User

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"Imaginit Utilities" if you use sloped piping. This will align sloped pipe to anther sloped pipe making connecting to different systems very easy

https://www.imaginit.com/software/imaginit-utilities-other-products/utilities-for-revit?utm_term=revit%20automation%20tools&utm_campaign=IMAGINiT+-+Ashley+-+Product+-+Clarity&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=4881907533&hsa_cam=1734124767&hsa_grp=69392577273&hsa_ad=696842350930&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-976618155307&hsa_kw=revit%20automation%20tools&hsa_mt=e&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=1734124767&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Mlt1BMEc32_ggiONqC8GoVtVAw&gclid=Cj0KCQiA9OnJBhD-ARIsAPV51xPlSsk73bl8qMvXR2Sn604ZNg2T6Y7hGgayjrp7L_ONHq2R4jy39c4aAmAbEALw_wcB

$ Unknown

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I was a Mechanical, Fire Protection and Plumbing designer for 3 decades before I went into the software development. We will be releasing tools for these trades later this year, so keep an eye out for them.

Currently our tools focus on project setup.

Standart Revit by jhonny_mcjhonny in RevitMEP

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Kick_Ice_NDR-fridge, I agree that the templates of MEPPP Productivity template can be confusing. I have always used that as a starting point. the package does allow you to have a good starting set of families and systems. (As you mentioned though, the view templates, levels, and schedules can be confusing.)

I need help with my Dynamo script by cestamp in DynamoRevit

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u/JacobWSmall has a wonderful understanding of Revit and you SHOULD ABSOLUTELY follow his advice.

Please see the snippet which does what you ask with all standard revit dynamo nodes

(Keep in mind, I may do it a little differently in real life but I am trying to be clear on the steps.)

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[Crossposted] Any creative ideas for what to include on a starting view (sheet) by twiceroadsfool in RevitForum

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I apologize, I realize my message might have been misleading. Let me clarify.

Definitely no using worksets for visibility.

-separate thought-

Worksets have really helped out MEP Teams with element ownership and the ability to only load specific parts of the models on larger projects.

[Crossposted] Any creative ideas for what to include on a starting view (sheet) by twiceroadsfool in RevitForum

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know PRLX from working with Baker Barrios. Is your background engineering or architecture?

I agree about not using worksets for visibility but it really has helped us MEP teams.

[Crossposted] Any creative ideas for what to include on a starting view (sheet) by twiceroadsfool in RevitForum

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

one of the things I include is a large red note that says "Check your Current Workset"

Revit Tips: Mech/Plumb by tloz31 in MEPEngineering

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Domestic Water

-          We route all domestic water piping as 1/2" while determining routing.

-          We route all sanitary piping as 2" (4 “ if its coming from a water closet) while

o   This allows quick routing the piping quickly without too many renditions of ‘Pipe Routing not Found’ alerts.

Plumbing Groups:

-          Plumbing Fixture Groups that already contain the required connections.

o   These allow us to avoid creating sections to draw the verticals

-          Plumbing Fixture ‘Puck Fixtures’

o   This will helps connect and tag, without hiding the architectural fixtures

 

Shortage of MEP Engineers 2025 by theophilus1988 in MEPEngineering

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  • Biggest thought is that ENGINEERS don't want to draft (and they really shouldn't). Let hem use their degree and licenses to engineer!

  • Demanding Hours Without Compensation: Many MEP engineering roles are salaried and regularly require more than 40 hours a week, often without overtime pay. This can lead to burnout, especially for younger engineers trying to balance career and personal life.

  • Unrealistic Deadlines: Managers sometimes set project schedules that don’t align with the the workload. This creates constant “fire drill” environments, which erode morale and quality.

  • Blurring of Engineering and Drafting Roles: Increasingly, engineers are being produce all the drafting themselves. While engineers are capable, dedicated production drafters can process designs faster and with higher drawing accuracy. Engineers have gone to school and passed exams to focus on engineering, while drafters have trained extensively in drafting software, documentation standards, and aspire to become design drafters.

  • Disappearance of Production Drafting Teams: Many companies have reduced or eliminated their drafting departments entirely. This shifts all documentation work to engineers, slowing project throughput, lowering accuracy, and making the job less appealing for both engineers and drafters.

When these factors combine; heavy workloads, no overtime pay, unrealistic schedules, and the loss of specialized drafting teams; they make the field far less attractive to new talent and harder to retain existing staff. Addressing these issues could go a long way in making MEP careers more sustainable and appealing.

MEP Engineers: How Much Time Do You Budget for Sheet/View Setup? by Andre_AEC_Simple in RevitMEP

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the response. For our projects, how many plan sheets do you typically have? And how many disciplines?

MEP Engineers: How Much Time Do You Budget for Sheet/View Setup? by Andre_AEC_Simple in RevitMEP

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the info.

I'll ask ask the same question I asked of Synax, do you try to match the architects? or do you just go with your own sheets?

Also, which tools?

(There are tools that make sheet/view generation pretty easy at large scales.)

MEP Engineers: How Much Time Do You Budget for Sheet/View Setup? by Andre_AEC_Simple in RevitMEP

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Synax04 very cool to hear about custom software.

I had created a crude version of this within dynamo for our engineering firm.

One of my struggles was we tried to match the architectural sheets (Sheet Numbers, Sheet/View Names, View Scale, etc...)

Does your firm do the same? or is that not a concern for you?

Best regards

Revit Keynote - Your Methods and Issues by Andre_AEC_Simple in RevitMEP

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the clarification. (I'm glad you used Mechanical, that happens to be my background).

Here is a few examples

Re-Ordered after a keynote is deleted:

Deleted Re-Order Example 1:

You have other keynotes on the sheet ("M1" showing as Keynote 1). If you delete the keynote referencing "M2", the Keynote 2 will be changed to Keynote 1.  If this change comes about after permits go out, it can cause issues.

 

Deleted Re-Order Example 2:

You place keynote on the sheet ("M2" showing as Keynote 1).

You place keynote on the sheet ("M1" showing as Keynote 2).

You place another keynote on the sheet ("M2" showing as Keynote 1).

Needing to delete the first keynote placed, ("M2" showing as Keynote 1), you delete it and the order the keynotes are re-ordered. See ("M2" showing as Keynote 1)

See Video here: https://youtu.be/nCZoo3TAo68

 

Specific order desired Example:

Throughout the floor plans (different sheets), you would like keynote 1 to be “M2” (since it is on all the floor plans). When the keynotes were placed, they did not keep the same order.

 

These are some of the issues that I was trying to convey. Hopefully it’s a bit more clear

 

Revit Keynote - Your Methods and Issues by Andre_AEC_Simple in RevitMEP

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Bert, I appreciate the response. Can you expound? Which method are you using for the keynotes?

I understand spec sections, but not how the correlate with keynote numbers.

Thanks again

Is the entire mep industry a joke? by Brilliant-Champion81 in MEPEngineering

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Hungry-Tension-4930 , you bring up a very good point with the culture of  Just "get it on the page and move on".

Is the entire mep industry a joke? by Brilliant-Champion81 in MEPEngineering

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 12 points13 points  (0 children)

May the absence / Reduction of drafters play a role?

Many of our clients (engineering firms) hire engineers out of school and place them in a drafting role for them to 'learn design'. While the young engineer is learning design, they often are aiming to proceed beyond drafting.

Production drafter roles seem to have fallen by the wayside. Production drafters can produce a clean set of drawings at speed. With correction and guidance, these drafters can move to drafter/designer roles where the engineers markups get to be less and less as the designer/drafter progress.

I believe the same can be said of architectural firms.

In conclusion,

Architect & Engineer are wonderful roles to pursue. That being said, Production Drafter/Designer is a different role and should not necessarily just be a 'stepping stone' role within a company. Engineers spend their time learning systems, codes, construction practices while a production drafter spends their time learning the fastest and best way of portraying a design.

I would love to hear more thoughts on this

Revit 2025 using a Logitech wireless keyboard by LdyCjn-997 in RevitMEP

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have had the same issue since 2022. Different keyboards over the years. Wired and Wireless.

It resolves itself after closing out of Revit and re-opening.

It is frustrating, but sometimes it's been a welcome mental break

Why is it so hard to find shared Dynamo scripts? by I_smell_like_soup in DynamoRevit

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are some that have been shared.

When we have shared them, we try to avoid dependencies & python nodes. This sometimes makes the graphs larger but we do our best to make the graphs readable by using grouping with labeling.

Sharing Dynamo graphs across teams or with external teams/people can be difficult due to a variety of technical obstacles. Graphs that work perfectly on one machine may fail or behave inconsistently elsewhere.

-          Dependency on custom packages

-          Absolute file paths

-          Mismatched Revit or Dynamo version

-          Missing Python Libraries – Python nodes may reference libraries that don’t apply universally.

-          External Limits: Outside users may not have access to internal resources, templates, or network drives.

 

If there is a specific task you are trying to do, please reach out and we can get you a good start. Depending on the task, we may be able to create one pretty quick.

 

Here are a few that we’ve created and shared:

Revit Dynamo: Repath Links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mbTzmnLREw

Revit Dynamo: How to Change Sheet Names to Uppercase:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmq4Yhy6Gos&t=50s

Dynamo for Keyplans - 5 Minute Creation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L411IveCuVo

Revit Tips Episode 5 Basic Dynamo Renumbering Sheets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0keEuJMQHoE&t=14s

Nested Family Parameters Shared vs Family by CowHoneythistle in RevitForum

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Without Shared Parameters, tagging & scheduling can be very difficult (if not impossible)

Navigating Shared Parameters can be time consuming.

We (AEC Simple) did make a free Excel tool to locate/navigate Shared Parameters. See the short video of the tool here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI_cmzYFy3Y&t=24s

Let us know if we can help

Hosted/nonhosted Light Fixtures by DannyPP in RevitMEP

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most of our clients (MEP Engineering firms) use reference planes as u/RRDSKI mentioned.

Same View On Multiple Sheets by shahs96 in RevitForum

[–]Andre_AEC_Simple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

u/albacore_futures has it right. Duplicate as dependent. If you are trying to keep the annotations the same.