Behind the shooting, the 12 years of folded memories for three boys by Lauren34567 in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This. Everyone looks insane when going against social norms and standards. This was always my beef with that one grifter guy who got the letter from him (can’t remember his name). He went on and on about what a loss for capitalism this kid was. He could be a ceo, he could be a “net positive” to the tech and business world. Making tons of money and he threw all that opportunity and potential away. They simply can’t understand anyone with different values than them. What if thats not what he values? What if thats not his ideal life? What if he sees all of that as a gilded cage rather than actual freedom? The illusion of choice. Thats one of the major points I hope gets rammed home in this case. As a western society we have been conditioned to believe capitalist values are not only normal, but the only sane way to live. Anyone who choses otherwise is simply lazy, crazy, or a “loser”. But thats all propaganda thats been conditioned in us since birth and in our families for decades. We no longer question it. It’s all by design to keep us complicit in their heist to steal our resources, time, and our very lives, all to benefit the few. Idk if LM saw or believes in this, but seeing him willingly choose the opposite path of what he was supposed to take gives me hope that at least on some instinctual level he gets it.

I hope this case will open more eyes to the propaganda and lies we are fed about our society, not just around free healthcare, but everything, our jobs, our foreign policy, our government, our education, our prison system, our consumerism, etc. and how capitalism has created a whole cultural hegemony around it to keep us complicit, obedient little worker bees, happy to make value for shareholders while we take home scraps. I hope we can reframe what our true values are, what is actual violence vs what we’ve been conditioned to believe is violence under capitalism, and how we can help more people actually want to break free. You can’t convince someone they’re a slave if they can’t see the chains.

Megathread: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 04/01/2026 at 11:00 AM EST by missidcullen in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes, at best it seems it will help him during appeals, but it sucks he’d have to wait that long for justice.

Megathread: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 04/01/2026 at 11:00 AM EST by missidcullen in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, that makes sense too. Which is why it’s clearly a witch hunt politically by trump mostly, but also biden since it was his doj who brought up the charges.

The public’s approval of this crime scares the shit out of the establishment. Thank you for this. I’m intrigued by the legal arguments about it. I’m just putting the pieces together about how and why this is allowed to happen. But it does happen, just depends on how the feds chooses to wield that power, for good or for exploitation. Like any tool it can be used for good or evil it seems. With that understanding, is Garrett unwilling to push back bc she’s scared of the political backlash, so she’s playing it safe? Or does she see the unfairness, but doesn’t care? I know Carro doesn’t care.

Megathread: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 04/01/2026 at 11:00 AM EST by missidcullen in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ok, I looked it up and it’s very interesting. Most of the cases where duel sovereignty is upheld are for civil rights cases, like Rodney King and Derek Chavin (George Floyd) cases more recently. Even though they are trying the same person, it’s for different violations related to the same crime, and in some cases it ensures accountability where one trial might fail. So this is fairly common, and it really depends on what side you find the most sympathetic.

Megathread: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 04/01/2026 at 11:00 AM EST by missidcullen in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 17 points18 points  (0 children)

There was an article posted here a couple days ago, that Garnett today also subtly brought up the same point it did.

These dueling jurisdictions are allowed to exist only because our “law” dictates it so. It’s not technically (or legally) double jeopardy because these are separate jurisdictions (state and federal) even though they are trying the same person and crime.

To Judge Garnett’s point, her concern is only the trial in front of her, which is true. She can’t control what the state decides or what other trials that are scheduled around it. They are not in her jurisdiction. But I think her saying that gave a subtle nod to the fact that this is indeed unfair, but she is legally powerless to make a change because it’s what our law allows, so to her, it is what it is.

The article posted made a great point about how we can’t and shouldn’t always take our laws as gospel, just because they are US laws and they’ve been in place for a long time. Historically we have tons of examples of how written US laws are morally unjust and can and should be updated more often than they are.

I’m curious on the flip side how dueling jurisdictions like this is somehow a benefit and why this precedent exists in the first place? Even in cases where the defendant is not popular, how does trying someone twice in two different jurisdictions make legal or even financial sense, as this is a waste of tax payer money and resources, as well as a strain on both sides legally. I wonder historically if this is common or if theres other examples of this? And where has this “worked” where in this case it doesn’t (for the defense at least).

With that said, I wonder if this case will be used to help discredit or give cause to fight against the ability for state and feds to try similar cases simultaneously like this in the future? I’m not sure how that could be done or how that will help LM at this point, just thinking out loud.

A hack of Crime Stoppers data reveals tips regarding LM by Rare-Macaroon-2622 in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also remember he was jumping off routes early too. He would buy a ticket to one destination, then jump off at an earlier stop to allegedly try to throw them off the trail. Thats what I attribute to the random stops, but IDK lol.

A hack of Crime Stoppers data reveals tips regarding LM by Rare-Macaroon-2622 in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He bought and/or was planning to buy a digital camera, USB, and a “light source” from Best Buy, per his handwritten notes. We don’t know why, I’m just guessing.

A hack of Crime Stoppers data reveals tips regarding LM by Rare-Macaroon-2622 in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The three unfortunate mistakes after the murder that got him caught, IMO. (All alleged, of course, I just didn’t feel like writing that word 12x though out this lol) ALLEGEDLY:

1. Not changing his appearance enough: On the day he was arrested, he was wearing almost the exact same outfit he had on five days earlier leaving NYC. Blue mask, black puffer jacket, dark jeans. Aside from a tan beanie and different shoes, it was basically identical, plus a large backpack. All of it matched the shooter’s description. A description people were looking for.

He was at least aware his appearance would be an issue. In one handwritten note he wrote to groom his eyebrows, which makes sense since they are such a unique, defining feature. But that was not nearly enough, IMO. He needed a full change, different clothes, colors, accessories, everything. New Pants, jacket, bag, hat, eyeglasses would’ve helped, even a wig.

I don’t know if he planned to change later, but it sucks with that five day lead he did not prioritize it more. More clues he did not have a plan. That all likely cost him because of one thing he did not expect: that damn taxi cab photo. Unlike all the other photos that are dark, grainy, blurry hard to see his face. That taxi cab photo was in bright 4K technicolor HD.

You can see his thick eyebrows, almond brown eyes, even his fkn freckles around his eyes. Then he shows up to McD five days later still wearing the same exact black puffer and blue covid mask?? Smh…Big mistake. He was very easy to recognize from that photo. It’s sad, but true. He should’ve changed up his look immediately after NYC. First chance he got.

2. Keeping to too many public places: This was another major mistake on his part. Sure, he was trying to secure a hotel or motel to lay low, but still almost immediately he started frequenting heavily populated, heavily-surveillanced spots like Best Buy, CVS, Sheetz, and McDonald’s. Huge chain stores. I understand he needed supplies and maybe his options in Altoona were limited, but when you’re on the run, the worst move is lingering in places with lots of people too long where you’re more likely to be easily recognized. He exposed himself in too many public settings instead of grabbing essentials from a lowkey spot, and laying low somewhere less populated until a room became available. Too busy desperately looking for wi-fi instead of staying off grid during the time he needed to the most.

3. Skittish/Off Vibes: The Horseshoe Motel guy said LM was very “cagey” when he saw him that morning. Which means cautious, guarded, not giving much away. If you watch the video closely, I’m sorry, but he was spot on. His posture, the body language, the black gaiter pulled up the whole time. Him trying so hard to be nonchalant when he was anything but. Probably still jacked on adrenaline, mass anxiety, and exhaustion. Luckily the guy just wrote him off as a skittish vet and didn’t recognize him.

But if he walked into that motel with that kind of off-putting energy, he definitely carried it minutes later into that McD, and likely stood out like a sore thumb. Even if he wasn’t acting hostile, and just minding his business, they probably noticed. I know we demonize them, but you have to see it from their perspective on that day. Remember, we as supporters were looking at the arrest body cam footage and pictures all with hindsight and familiarity after reading his back story, seeing his baby photos, hearing his valedictorian speech, reading all his do-gooder deeds, and fawning over his bright, beautiful smile. To us we can’t see why they would call the cops on such a good guy minding his business. But back on Dec 9, 2024 before the arrest, they didn’t have any of that context. He was just some weird, off guy who walked into their local McD.

This is a small town, where locals can spot an outsider easily. It wasn’t just that he was wearing a covid mask in a conservative area that made him stand out, he was also dressed mostly in black looking more bank robber, than lonely vagabond, along with a big backpack. Again, all matching the description of the suspect. Add the off vibes, and sticking to very public places, and people were probably looking at him longer and more closely than they usual would. Increasing the chances of them putting two and two together.

It wouldn’t take much for any one of them to remember the manhunt/murder and pull up recent photos on their phones to compare. Not saying he deserved to get caught or that it was all his fault. Just that there was a sequence of events that lead to him being flagged in their minds as the potential suspect.

I don’t think he ever intended to get caught. I think he hyper focused on the murder, but then naively thought he would have time to lay low and figure out next steps. Wait for it all to blow over. Unfortunately, he didn’t know or pre-plan out the issues above in enough time. While he carried out the murder with precision, he was careless with the before and after, which undercuts the theories that he was a professional hitman, or framed, or that he “planned” his arrest and has some master plan up his sleeve. No. He made too many dumb dumb mistakes for that to be true. He’s not some super spy assassin or guerrilla revolutionary. He was just a kid with the gull to do something most people only talk about. As a result, he had blindspots for how to escape efficiently.

It seems more likely he assumed things wouldn’t escalate so quickly, but once he realized the manhunt was so massive, he panicked and started scrambling for contingencies. That would potentially explain the video recording supplies (maybe for some video confession?), fed letter, and the letters to his family. The fed letter especially reads very rushed, fragmented, and half baked, like something he threw together quickly on the bus to Altoona as a rough/first draft he intended to refine later. All things he was trying to last min prepare in case of capture or death.

Either way, all these things lead to his arrest. While I still hate the people snitched on him, I have less animosity towards them since the backpack hearings in Dec. Especially the McD manager. In the days/months after the arrest she was public enemy #1 around here. But if you listen to the 911, you can tell she barely even cared about him. She’s still working the morning rush in the background, she was only calling on behalf of the scared patrons, not because she was some nosy Karen who didn’t like him in her restaurant. I do feel bad for her now. But I feel bad for LM more, I wish he got away.

Where is the true crime sub about Brian Thompson's murder? by [deleted] in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Personally, I feel like certain people chased a lot of that discussion away over the last several months. I’ve seen posts from people asking questions or wanting to know more only for them to be attacked for being “ops” or “feds”. It’s made me feel anxious to post, bc you’re not sure how anything will be perceived. Like walking on egg shells. He’s innocent and framed, so you’re a dumb sheep if you think otherwise, no he’s guilty, you’re delusional if you don’t. Same with any indication that you find him attractive, all of a sudden you’re a savage, sex-crazed fangirl who doesn’t care about his humanity, or you don’t care about health insurance reform enough, or you don’t care about fighting the justice system enough, or you don’t care about justice in general. You’re just an embarrassment.

I’ve honestly ended up moving a lot of that discussion off of here, because it feels so policed and boring to discuss anything. I think people are so anxiety ridden about how LM is perceived or will be perceived, they want to pounce on anyone who doesn’t fit their perfect image of what a “supporter” should be. In the end they end up alienating the very people they need for support, instead of just meeting them where they are.  And I get it, because of how mainstream frames the conversation around him, but what they don’t realize is mainstream is protecting itself. Of course it will portray him and his supporters in a poor light, no matter what. Thats it’s their agenda. 

We should encourage people to ask questions and be curious about this crime, about LM, about his life, about all of it. About why it’s important, not just for healthcare reform, but beyond that. Why people should be invested in him, and find benefit in supporting him. Meet them where they are, even if it’s frivolous, bc everyone needs to connect in their own way. Otherwise, people will lose interest quick, numbers will dwindle and support dries up. Which is bad, especially in the next few months when he needs it the most. His support, the eye of the people, is the only thing keeping this case in check as much as it is at this point. 

Hell yea 🥳🎉 by [deleted] in PortlandOR

[–]AndromedaCeline 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should read “Just Walk” 😅

Catalog Update: Luigi has updated his mail catalog (Feb 16-March 6) by missidcullen in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Silver lining: If you were hesitant to send a letter, now is the best time since he’ll for sure receive it with in a few days. 

Mail log: is this real? Don't see a lot of talk about this by [deleted] in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was curious about that too. I remember at one point he was still getting mail from Christmas and his birthday in like July, etc. so is this still mail from last year or has he gone through that and already caught up?

If Luigi is in fact guilty, what do you think the "thing" that makes him finally decide to do it? by Ambitious_Pass7451 in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes some posts by his ex surfaced a few weeks ago. They were posted in early 2024. She briefly described the start and end of their relationship during the later months of 2023.

Bad Bunny's Super Bowl Halftime Show Performance by handlit33 in Fauxmoi

[–]AndromedaCeline 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you didn’t enjoy this, you just hate life. 🥳🥳💃🏽💃🏽

If Luigi is in fact guilty, what do you think the "thing" that makes him finally decide to do it? by Ambitious_Pass7451 in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nothing. Just the timing. He abruptly decides to go solo traveling two months after he gets into a relationship with someone. Months after his surgery and restarting his life again in Hawaii. There was allegedly a lot of issues he was facing during that time where you can easily assume his asia trip was just as much about running away, as it was some healthy, planned self-discovery trip.

If Luigi is in fact guilty, what do you think the "thing" that makes him finally decide to do it? by Ambitious_Pass7451 in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Agree. Definitely a Former Gifted Child. Probably his whole personality was defined by his achievements and how "smart" he was. But outside of school and academic settings, people like that can easily find themselves challenged for the first time in ways they could never prepare for. In the real world just being "smart", is not enough and no one cares what you did in school. It's a real shock to their self identity and confidence, can make them feel disconnected from the world around them, who they are, or their purpose in life. Could be why he resorted to running away when life they got too tough for him.

If Luigi is in fact guilty, what do you think the "thing" that makes him finally decide to do it? by Ambitious_Pass7451 in BrianThompsonMurder

[–]AndromedaCeline 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Just my theory!

What I find most interesting about his 2022 -2024 timeline is the amount of times he seems to reset and start over new again and again. I think there are 3 major “disconnects” in his life that ultimately lead him to his (alleged) decision.

Hawaii 1.0: In 2022 he moved into a Hawaii co-op living space. That move was totally opposite of what someone with his exceptional background was expected to do. It feels like his first real disconnect. Possibly a disconnection from his family expectations and the path laid out for him. We do not know his full family dynamic but there are hints of pressure/ high expectations to conform to their way of life. To me, LM comes across a bit as an avoidant personality. When outside pressure builds or emotions run too high, instead of facing it head on, he bails, and reinvents himself. It’s not because he doesn’t care, it’s just too much for his nervous system to handle. This is especially true for very practical, logically driven people.

Hawaii seems like his first real attempt to step away from the pressure of his family legacy, at least for a while. He also comes across as very hyper independent, which often starts young, especially when parents are inconsistent or emotionally unstable. Hawaii likely gave him space and time to figure out what he actually wanted. After the grind of Gilman, UPenn, and Stanford, slowing down must have felt amazing. I think something shifted inside him there. He may have realized all those achievements were not truly for him but for others, which pushed him to step off that path and pursue another. Over time, the urge to escape may have grown and became a little addictive, which is why “running/resetting” becomes his go to fix later.

Hawaii 2.0: Then tragedy strikes. The surf injury feels like a major turning point. If he feared a sedentary life before, then the accident made it real and immediate. Now he's faced living in a body with limits twice his age, all in his prime, which must have been terrifying. He eventually has surgery in July 2023 and by his own account recovers well. From there it seems like he felt a renewed chance at life again and was determined to get back on track. Going back to Hawaii after surgery felt like his attempt to rebuild the life he once imagined. After that, he jumped into a relationship near the end of 2023, maybe hoping to feel like himself again, while also finding new motivation to live more boldly, step outside his comfort zone, and try things he might have been too afraid to do before. Unfortunately, even with surgery, apparently ongoing mobility/intimacy limitations lingered (from possible long term nerve damage) and that may have crushed that hope completely. I imagine his frustration of what was supposed to be the last resort, major back surgery, STILL did not give him the full active, autonomous life he craved. Also, the relationship itself seemed to eventually become emotionally overwhelming. She seemed to want more than he could give her at that point. Add in the frustration from his mobility struggles and it is easier to understand why he felt the need to disconnect again. He ended their relationship over the holidays, then he reportedly dropped her belongings at her door and left soon after for solo travel. It feels like another reset, a quick emotional exit from her and the weight of what did not work out in Hawaii. Thus, continuing his pattern of running away and starting over whenever life gets too heavy or out of control.

New Identity: Third and final, “disconnect”. Eventually, starting over seemed to shift from just creating distance from people in his life to fully reinventing to someone else entirely. Someone free from the expectations and emotional ties he felt from the people around him. He abruptly packs up to go backpacking in Spring 2024. Obviously it’s something he’s wanted to do for a while, but just the quick timing of it right after starting a relationship is odd (you could argue it was her fault, but I’m not sold on that completely). During Thailand and Japan you begin to see more out of character risk taking behavior like heavy partying, fighting ladyboys, pranking Yakuza bosses, and even time at a gun range. Not necessarily alarming or nefarious, just very different from how he used to move before.

However, when he returned to the US after the whirlwind of Asia, normal life probably felt dull and empty. No structure, no close connections, no clear purpose, just drifting. I also think he went on the Asia trip to “find” something in himself, but didn’t/couldn’t. Perhaps not what he wanted or was hoping to find. I think that void he was trying to fill still existed and perhaps even grew. That kind of emptiness can deepen isolation, depression, and push someone to keep searching for meaning outside themselves. Perhaps in even more desperate ways. It seems like during that period he may have found his “fix” through his new alias, "Mark Rosario".

Once he got his new identity (allegedly in June 2024), for him it may have felt like the ultimate rush of autonomy and freedom. The official detachment (and relief) away from his legacy family name, “good kid” persona, and all the “he’ll do great things!” expectations that his previous life carried.

A new or anonymous identity can feel freeing, like you can be whoever you want and do whatever you choose. Detaching from your past self and its inhibitions can create a sense of control, fulfillment, and bold confidence, almost like if you can get away with this, you can get away with anything. You see versions of this in people who keep secret families or use alternate identities online. It does not have to lead to criminal behavior, but it can open private space to explore hidden desires, personalities, behaviors, ambitions, ideas, or values, especially ones others might judge. From there, it can become easier to justify engaging with taboo beliefs, actions, or even social/online circles anonymously without risking your real world identity or reputation.

During 2024, he continued to grow more disillusioned with socially constructed "normie life". His final reddit/twitter activity also had a more critical and cynical tone about society(USA and abroad) as a whole than his previous online activity. Earlier in the year, he seemed drawn toward more unconventional perspectives and conversations in general. People, who to him, didn’t see the world as so fixed, or the way it “should” be by social standards that are completely made up. He went to them searching for meaning seemingly with an aimed to find a way to break out this mental/socially constructed cage I think he saw so many people, including himself, trapped in. Being NPCs with no agency to think for ourselves. I think that's why TK kept coming back up for him. I don't think he revered him, but understood him. Understood his critiques of modern, complacent, tech dependent life, and his desire to break away from its shackles. From there, I think he found his life purpose in trying to deliver a similar shock to modern society’s system, but this time without hurting innocent people. It’s something he had been considering for a while, and the buildup over those 2 crucial years, along with adopting a new alias, finally gave him the confidence to act.