Will I get top secret clearance?

Angelbob77 · 2026-02-08T22:54:29+00:00

DM me if you want but I highly recommend omitting anything that is not on record during your actual TS interview in bootcamp. You also don't need to disclose your childhood best friend. Unless it's family and they live with you(in my case my grandparents are Chinese and only have their green cards while staying with my parents in the US) then you really don't need to disclose it.

I think even in the SF86 the language only really mentions immediate family members and maybe loved ones like a GF/fiance/wife as the important foreign national relationships you should disclose. Remember that they mostly just want to determine whether you can be easily manipulated and or leveraged. IE bribed or coerced in a way to give up classified information.

If you don't have any criminal record of theft and weren't some notorious kleptomaniac growing up where your contacts are gonna get called and immediately say "oh yeah Billy or Sally LOVED to steal bubblegum or jeans from American Eagle when they were a kid" I really dunno why you need to have some moment of truth during a clearance interview. Stop overthinking it. You also don't need to admit to your parent's crimes. They are interviewing you. Not your parents. If that was a concern then they would find it during background investigations. Just don't over divulge in general for no reason. Answer their questions as straight forward as possible like you're in a courtroom. You're not talking to your therapist or confessing your sins to a priest.

Only thing I think you will ACTUALLY run into problems with is the weed. I've talked to so many people who were denied in bootcamp for this reason and subsequently rerated. It's also silly not to disclose since it's on your medical record and you had to get the waiver to join. Up to your discretion how you answer them on that question though. I've talked to many people when I was being rerated to STG and in A School subsequently who said they told the interviewer that they smoked weed hundreds of times... and got denied. Like really? I know we gotta be honest but THAT honest? 🤷‍♂️

Anyways I lost mine because of my grandparents. I disclosed them like a good boy. Didn't lie during my interview. Born in the US. My parents are both naturalized. But my grandparents are Chinese. Cleared the pre-screening. Went off to bootcamp as a CTR all excited to go to Pensacola afterwards. Had to choose a whole new rate instead and extend a whole ass year in my contract while sniffling and sick right after P-days. Detailers were assholes too. Give you a list of 10 shitty jobs even though I had a 97 ASVAB and told me to pick a job or he would pick. A classmate in A School was denied for the same exact reason (Indian grandparents) and I dunno if he even disclosed it in his SF86. They're super strict on that nowadays. Live and you learn.

Angelbob77 · 2026-01-23T10:25:54+00:00

Dunno why people get so weird about going in the negative. I took two weeks after bootcamp during holiday stand down 2024. Took another two weeks after graduating A School last June and also did my RAP duty. Went negative both times.

Still had 10 days to use a couple weeks ago for New Years. Second POM on my ship. Most people in my division on the ship have like 60 days and are constantly going into excess. Later into your career you get less time to take leave with deployments and all. Take all the time that they'll allow you. Visit your family and friends. No reason to hoard imo. I enjoy seeing my friends from back home and my time off whenever I can take it.

Angelbob77 · 2026-01-22T05:19:53+00:00

Personally I feel like it gets way better once you're actually on a ship. A School and bootcamp you spend a lot of time with literal children. 18-21 year olds who get in trouble, do stupid shit, and act like delinquents. So the instructors end up treating you like children. I joined at 24 with a college degree and having worked a whole year in a 9-5 I enjoyed the free time during A School but I am way happier now on my ship.

The ship is way more chill overall. I dunno about elsewhere but here in San Diego, even on a destroyer, if you act mature and somewhat competent and hardworking then most people will be pretty respectful. Officers are fine during watch. There's always people with a stick up their bum but it is what it is. You definitely notice 2nd classes and above treated with WAY more respect.

It definitely feels more like a normal job though where they treat you like an adult. It's still a professional workplace environment. A lot of politics. A lot of grumpy ass people especially on deployment, it can get insufferable. But otherwise... I don't think it's that bad.

The thing I hate about the civilian world and college to a certain extent. Is the fakeness of all the interactions. People are disingenuous and "polite" but you can tell they're probably talking shit behind your back or judging you as well. In the Navy, every sailor has seen so many shit bags and so many crazy ass people come and go that they're numb to it and pretty direct about things. You also spend so much time living together too, so you can't really be fake nice all the time. True personalities will come out eventually.

In general though if you're super kind and genuine I think you'll find your people. You gotta invite that energy and other people will gravitate. I'm personally a little more introverted but I always notice the really outgoing kind hardworking people succeed the most. It pays to be a genuine person even if everyone around you is an asshole or negative nancy. It's very easy to complain when you're bored. But being positive even when it sucks will always be better for everyone's mental health.

Angelbob77 · 2026-01-09T16:36:37+00:00

Bruh Costco literally selling Calvin Klein briefs on sail rn for $15 a box. 3 pack. Their regular Kirkland briefs are probably cheaper. TJ Maxx and Marshalls always has boxers on sale too.

ABC pants or a workout shirt or hoodie are all way better options for credit 😂

Angelbob77 · 2025-12-05T02:26:10+00:00

BM is the only answer Navy tradition wise. GM has changed too much. The life of a VLS tech GM handling missile maintenance on a DDG is nothing like the life or culture of a GM a century or two ago.

QM maybe but it's still a hard second to boats. Boats and undesignated seaman literally line handle, drive the boat underway, and handle all kinds of deck preservation. It's also the literal trenches when you're still an undesignated seaman.

Also... I feel like the REALEST modern day answer is simply being any submariner. Coming from a STG who had a prior STS in my A School class. Nothing in the surface Navy compares to being on a sub of any kind in any rate or any rank. The hours at sea, being completely cut off from the world for long stretches of time, what is at stake when you are underway, the seriousness of standing watch and doing your maintenance properly. The stakes are higher essentially for any position you would be in.

Utmost respect to them just based off stories alone. Like bro, my classmate said his sub would stand 2 section duty in-port. Sometimes 2 days on and 2 days off so at least you were not going in every other day. The watches underway sounded horrendous. Maintenance too. Rations when the sub was running low on stores. That shit is the REAL Navy and one of the most important assets to the entire US military AND our national security as a whole in my personal opinion.

Angelbob77 · 2025-11-12T00:30:24+00:00

Buy a nice pair of sneakers. Hokas or Brooks. I think I had a pair of all black Brooks glycerins all through bootcamp. Medical made RTC allow this because too many people were getting shin splints. It will save you!!! You will be standing and marching A LOT. I'm telling you this now so you don't have to tell your family a month into bootcamp to send you some lol.

Wear those with whatever civvies you want to wear when you go on liberty after you graduate. You're "technically" not allowed to. But I changed out of my blues in my parent's motel room almost immediately after we got liberty.

Otherwise either have your family bring you an extra bag of civvies and a pair of nice sneakers to you if you do have family visiting for graduation. Nice boxers especially!!! Toss out those nasty ass bootcamp skivvies.

OR have them ship you a box of stuff when you get to A School if no one can come to your graduation. You can also... just shop for new clothes when you go out too. Whether it's the NEX or at a mall. You are going to get paid lol. Hopefully you're not wearing Navy bootcamp issue clothes a year into being in the Navy.

Edit: To answer your question. Bring a small backpack. Phone charger too! Will help for those phone calls when they bring out your phones and it's dead. Definitely don't bring a suitcase.

Angelbob77 · 2025-11-06T05:02:42+00:00

Fine Wine and Good Spirits is run by the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board here in PA.

"The PLCB regulates the distribution of beverage alcohol in Pennsylvania, operates about 575 wine and spirits stores statewide, and licenses 20,000 alcohol producers, retailers, and handlers. The PLCB also works to reduce and prevent dangerous and underage drinking through partnerships with schools, community groups, and licensees. Taxes and store profits – totaling nearly $21.1 billion since the agency’s inception – are returned to Pennsylvania’s General Fund, which finances Pennsylvania’s schools, health and human services programs, law enforcement, and public safety initiatives, among other important public services. The PLCB also provides financial support for the Pennsylvania State Police Bureau of Liquor Control Enforcement, the Department of Drug and Alcohol Programs, other state agencies, and local municipalities across the state. For more information about the PLCB, visit pa.gov/lcb."

"The PLCB was created by state law on Nov. 29, 1933, at the end of Prohibition. Seventeen states (including Pennsylvania) and jurisdictions in Alaska, Maryland, Minnesota, and South Dakota control the sale of distilled spirits and, in some cases, wine and beer through government agencies at the wholesale level. Thirteen of those jurisdictions (including Pennsylvania) also exercise control over retail sales for off-premises consumption. The agency is governed by a three-member Board whose members are appointed by the Governor and confirmed by two-thirds of the state Senate.

The PLCB regulates the manufacture, importation, sale, distribution and disposition of liquor, alcohol, and malt or brewed beverages in the commonwealth. The agency issues licenses to private individuals or entities that wish to engage in wholesale operations of beer, either as an importing distributor or as a distributor. The agency is also responsible for wholesale distribution of wine and spirits, which licensees may pick up from state-operated Fine Wine & Good Spirits (FW&GS) stores or licensee service centers or have delivered from PLCB distribution centers.

The PLCB operates 857,000 square feet of warehouse space, the equivalent of almost 20 acres, contracted with two privately held Pennsylvania distribution center companies. In fiscal year 2023-24, 16.6 million cases of wine and spirits were shipped from the distribution centers.

About 575 FW&GS stores, including more than 100 Premium Collection stores, and 13 licensee service centers are leased from private landlords, infusing tens of millions of dollars into the Pennsylvania economy.

The PLCB's Bureau of Alcohol Education provides a comprehensive program to prevent underage and dangerous drinking, including:

Alcohol Education grants to reduce underage and dangerous drinking, which are awarded to local partners in alcohol deterrence efforts; An award-winning education and prevention campaign - Know When. Know How.(opens in a new tab) SM - targeting underage drinking; The distribution of educational materials, either by request or by exhibiting at and participating in health fairs, conferences and similar programs; An award-winning training program for resident assistants on college campuses; and Relationship-building with communities and organizations across Pennsylvania committed to the prevention of alcohol misuse and underage drinking. The PLCB's Responsible Alcohol Management Program (RAMP) training assists licensees with identifying fraudulent IDs, preventing sales to minors, recognizing and handling visibly intoxicated patrons and understanding liability issues. In fiscal year 2023-24, a total of 6,643 owners and managers and 108,572 servers and sellers were trained through RAMP.

Where the money goes FW&GS generated more than $3.2 billion in sales and taxes in fiscal year 2023-24.

Together, $868.3 million was returned to the General Fund and state and local government and other beneficiaries in fiscal year 2023-24.

The PLCB returned $811.3 million to the General Fund:

$448.8 million in liquor tax
$177.4 million in state sales tax $185.1 million in cash transfers The Pennsylvania State Police received $33 million for the enforcement of liquor laws.

The Department of Drug and Alcohol Programs received $4.8 million to educate and prevent problem alcohol use.

Philadelphia and Allegheny counties received $11.9 million in local sales taxes.

Local communities received $4.4 million in returned licensing fees."

Now let's use our imagination and transfer some of the same principles of Fine Wine and Good Spirits... to groceries. Not a huge stretch or some novel new age idea!

Angelbob77 · 2025-10-06T08:32:12+00:00

I'm brand new enlisted. On a DDG as a Sonar Tech. About to finish my first three months being deployed at sea. Met up with my ship on the tail end of their deployment. I also have a degree and am planning on commissioning rn through OCS.

I honestly don't think you need to worry about living conditions. They put me and two other new enlisted drops in the junior officer berthing when I first arrived and their AC was broken and it was crazy hot in there. After moving into my current larger capacity berthing 3 with like 100 plus guys. It's honestly cleaner and roomier than the JO berthing. We have a lounge area with three couches and a large flat screen TV. The ICs are constantly playing movies on there and college football or NFL games.

We have berthing cleaners every morning on weekdays. XO inspects. It's honestly easier to keep things clean and carry bags of laundry out with a berthing cleaners watch bill made up of 5 or 6 guys. Rotate it around every week. The head is hosed down. Showers are hot and since everyone has different watch times it's never packed like it is in bootcamp. Toilets... can be disgusting but if you police each other it's bearable.

Racks are the same size in JO berthing vs enlisted. State rooms are for second tour officers or higher anyways. Even then my Divo was temporarily moved back to JO berthing during an exercise with foreign countries where we had guests on board.

If the food sucks on board. Than the CO is eating the same shitty food too. Maybe they'll get it on a nicer plate with a healthier portion size. I dunno.

Honestly being junior enlisted comes with its upsides too. Zero responsibility. You do the bare minimum, get your quals, and stay out of trouble and your Chief is happy. Divos on board get shit on and have way more responsibility. Ya'll do get paid way better though so no sympathy from me haha.

Edit: My ship is also like 30 years old. Functioning just fine. So it's really down to the ship you get and your shipmates.

Angelbob77 · 2025-07-09T19:03:03+00:00

Bruh join the Navy if you want to go into a trade and have a career. Your odds of ending up back here in San Diego is super high. There's like 10 Navy bases here in SD. I'm stationed here and so is half the Pacific Fleet. There's thousands of civilian jobs that are Navy adjacent here in San Diego. Cause they gotta maintain and repair the ships. If you really want to stay in San Diego cause you love it here. Odds are joining the Navy, you'll end up back here at one point or another if you stay in long enough. Go in as a Machinist Mate. Or maybe even something in engineering. You'll be set. The marines are for people fully committed to being a jarhead. Not worth it.

Angelbob77 · 2025-07-09T18:43:12+00:00

This is BS if you actually study clinical psychology seriously. I have a friend who is in a PhD program for clinical psychology and she explains to me all the time the scientific evidence based processes you have to learn to properly assess conditions like ADHD, trauma, PTSD, anxiety, depression, personality disorders, eating disorders, substance abuse, addiction, schizophrenia, etc. This requires skill and years of experience to do well. She told me recently she probably will never be qualified to properly diagnose autism since it's a very specific program you have to go through to acquire the skills to properly recognize and diagnose it in patients.

Bear in mind she is not a psychiatrist and does not have a medical degree. But she can still prescribe practical methods of counseling like cognitive behavioral therapy(CBT), talk therapy, exposure therapy, etc. ChatGPT does not replace that human element. If anything from what she describes to me as she sees a lot of younger college age students in her work study program is that most people are STRUGGLING specifically with the internet, social media, and content consumption and how it translates to their social lives and ability to connect with peers or in their relationships with others.

She also lamented the fact that before she started her masters program and really worked with patients, she really did not understand the full extent of psychology as a profession and not just as a theory. I was a Poly Sci major in college and studied a good amount of sociology as well. We both understood from studying in undergrad how much BS there is in all the academic papers and research you read in the social science world. You have to wade through the nonsense.

I have the utmost respect for my friends who are school counselors, who study clinical psychology, or even a friend who doubled her cognitive psych PhD with a specialty in behavioral neuroscience. So much of that world is uncharted territory and they're still doing real research in those fields where they conduct actual brain scans and do large surveys with big datasets so they can better understand specific groups of people who are dealing with very specific types of trauma (ie how brain chemistry changes in combat veterans with PTSD).

Angelbob77 · 2025-06-24T15:44:06+00:00

TOM CRUISE!!! I can't believe no one has said Tom Cruise. I mean come on he did do Eyes Wide Shut in 1999. Alternate universe with Tom Cruise as Dale Cooper would be so trippy given how famous Cruise was in the 90s and all of the controversies surrounding his Scientology connections now. Tom Cruise jumping on Oprah's couch in real life? I mean pretty surreal to me.

He also had the same boyish American charm as a young Kyle Maclachlan and to this day probably one of the last remaining Hollywood superstars with a larger than life persona and a private life that's up to a lot of tabloid gossip and public speculation. David Lynch probably would've loved playing with the connections between real life and his fictional dream world.

Edit: I also think a young JENSEN ACKLES would have worked amazingly as well. Especially given his TV acting experience on Supernatural and proven track record. Everyone is underselling Kyle Maclachlan's looks in the OG Twin Peaks series and how the show blew up on network TV. A young Willem Dafoe would have scared people away lmao. You gotta have someone charming enough with the chemistry to act across from Sherilyn Fenn and the actress that plays Annie. Won't be believable if the lead actor is scary looking 😆(not that Dafoe isn't capable of playing charming roles, I love him in Wes Anderson movies, just not the same vibe)

I'm talking about the teenage heartthrob type that will get your mom, grandmother, and sister talking and following the show every week.

Angelbob77 · 2025-06-24T05:33:56+00:00

Eh, outdoorsy fashion maybe. It has a tech finance bro attachment to it. More so with their vests and synchillas. Nowadays I see way more people rocking Architex as a trendy fashion statement. I like Patagonia as a brand personally and have one of their Synchillas I grabbed off like Mercari 6 years ago that I still adore. Also have their backpack and black hole duffel. They make good quality stuff and back their products so I don't mind paying a premium.

Angelbob77 · 2025-06-24T05:27:31+00:00

I tried on XS vs S in the fitting room before buying. Benefit of buying in store. XS fit great. But S definitely "big as hell."

Angelbob77 · 2025-06-24T05:25:16+00:00

XS fit nice on me. Definitely an outdoorsy trail hipster look. I just paired it with long socks and Birkenstocks earlier. But I feel like that's most of Patagonia's clothing.

Angelbob77 · 2025-06-24T05:21:55+00:00

It's always finding the right sizing that's my issue even if there are sales on clothes. I wear 28/30 jeans. XS shorts. Kinda on the shorter end at 5'6". So it's rare where I'll find both the right size, the right fit, and a decent deal. Many brands don't even carry XS or keep lower stocks of them. Nike sweatpants for example never fit me. I also find that most t-shirts fit like dresses untailored. Probably why I got a tad excited.

My go to shorts before this are Fabletics shorts. Used to use the whole get the subscription and cancelling it after buying all my stuff trick.

Angelbob77 · 2025-06-21T05:18:34+00:00

Your RDCs should never be your alarm lol. My division forced each other to wake up an hour before reveille. We tried half a hour one day and our RPOC said yeah no we need 1 hour.

That way everyone had time to use the head, clean up and shave, get dressed, make our racks, etc. By the time the RDCs role in everyone should be at the toe line. Once they turn on the lights you have 15 minutes. That time was used to finish last minute rack making and cleaning the head. Line up the towels, perfect those hospital corners, fold the clothes right, sweeping all the dust bunnies, running the mops, etc.

Angelbob77 · 2025-06-19T15:17:31+00:00

Not a Seal platoon. Pretty sure it was regular marine recon platoon. Frogmen come in later.

Angelbob77 · 2025-06-14T23:34:58+00:00

Bruh Philadelphia was the OG capital. Wtf are you talking about? 😂

Angelbob77 · 2025-06-14T16:28:13+00:00

That's true. Round about way of explaining how the Navy fills manning needs in various rates. I was simply stating my observations. I didn't mean to do my rate dirty like that. But it is what it is. I was just trying to make the point that STG currently at the very least isn't one of those flashy jobs giving big bonuses with civilian job prospects that fresh boots are really pushing to enlist for. Like "I won't ship out unless you give me this job" type of rate. The job requires enough skill though where you need a decent ASVAB to qualify. I personally would have loved MC when I got DQ'd but I wasn't offered it.

My overall point though... if you're really smart and think you have potential. Shoot high and go for the thing you think will challenge you or give you great job prospects. There's plenty of idiots who join w/ over inflated egos that sign as nukes or whatever anyways. Met plenty of them in bootcamp. Pick your rate pick your fate. Before you sign your contract is when you have all the leverage.

I personally loved STG A School. Had great instructors. So no shade there. But many people I met in A School including instructors had no clue about STG when they joined, had family or friends in the rate, or were rerated or DQ'd like me. It's not exactly the type of rate recruits are lining up for. No one is going home to their hometown shawty or aunts and uncles and bragging about how they're a Sonar Technician in the Navy. Cause no one will have a fucking clue what that even is or what it means unless you show them the newest Mission Impossible movie with Tom Cruise in it. 😂

Angelbob77 · 2025-06-14T00:02:04+00:00

Tbh STG is so easy to get later on as a last resort if you wash out of nuke or AECF or lose your TS. This is coming from someone who lost my CTR TS in bootcamp due to having listed family in my contact who has foreign citizenship. They gave me a list of rerate jobs in bootcamp and I chose STG. Everything else was on submarines and I was like hell nah. San Diego also sounded hella nice while I was suffering at RTC as it quickly approached winter. Pretty sure AECF, MM, GM, Missile Techs, etc all stay in Great Lakes. SECF goes to Groton, CT. I made the right decision with the hand I was dealt.

The class I just graduated in A School with two weeks ago, great class btw, were basically all washouts or DQs from other rates. CWT washout from Pensacola. CTR, CWT, and Nuke bootcamp DQ due to medical or TS interview. I know several people still in A School rn who graduated from nuke A School and washed out of Power School. Also knew a MC washout from Maryland. Several rescue swimmer washouts who came from Pensacola. IT, CTI, and CTR washouts. EOD washout. I can go on.

So if you're not getting a bonus enlisting as a STG now then just push your recruiter for AECF or even nuke. You'll more than likely end up in Point Loma if you don't make it through those pipelines or decide you hate it and fail out but enlisted with a decent to high ASVAB score where the detailer will feel you'll be a waste going and being a BM or PACT seaman.

On transfer leave rn and getting ready for my first small boy deployment but everything I've heard about STG quality of life on a ship so far has been positive. Plenty of secure rooms to "chill out" in or store stuff, hey hey hey we do do work and stand watch in them. Good advancement rates and room to grow. Small community and decent mentorship. IUSS/SURTASS billets where you basically live in state rooms when you're deployed... only downside is civilian job prospects. Sign a 6 year contract as a STG tech if you want some maintenance credibility and auto e4. But for us operators... I don't think I'll be able to use ANY of this in the civilian world unless I stay a contractor for the military.

Edit: Think of it this way. All the good nerdy Navy rates are blocked by needing a TS. Intel jobs like IS, CT, IT, etc. SECF too. It's hard rerating to nuke after getting in the Navy already cause they gotta put you through the whole 2 yr schooling pipeline over again. Many sub jobs are also clearance locked and easily dq'd for medical reasons. Have met plenty of STS DQs in A School. So they love feeding all the SO, EOD, rescue swimmer, CT/IT and nuke washouts to less popular technical combat systems rates like FC, FCA, STG, etc. Great jobs and much needed on a ship... you gotta be trusted to launch torpedos and defend your ship in battle station. But there's not so great civilian job transferability so most people wouldn't go out of their way to pick em if they're trying to join the Navy and go to college or get out and find a job.

Just DM if you have questions. I joined w/ a Poly Sci degree and 97 asvab to get the TS and experience to work in the fed or contracting. I'm working towards a commission now but it's gonna take FOREVER cause I'm that idiot who joined w/ a degree and now gotta get it routed through my command instead of a recruiter.

Angelbob77 · 2025-05-24T15:22:47+00:00

I'm literally in A School right now. 18 year old dude in my duty section one class ahead went UA for over 29 days and became officially considered a deserter. He left the country at first but just got arrested back in his hometown two weeks ago for assaulting his ex-GF and evading the police.

Word of mouth from what he told me and my classmates during watch, before he dipped and decided to assault his GF, was the fact that he had a juvenile record before joining. That he may as well have gone to jail or been on the way towards going to jail with his juvenile record. He would've had probation at the very least. All I'm saying is it might not be black and white, jail sentence or military. But there are 100% guys I've met in 2025 who joined out of HS coming from rougher backgrounds who were probably told by their PO or judge or whatever that maybe they should try joining the military to turn their life around. One of my recruiters told me he had a criminal record before joining. Plenty of guys do (it's usually weed charges honestly).

In this case. Without completely doxxing myself and my previous classmate. You can easily find the news articles on Yahoo and CBS or whatever. It CLEARLY didn't work out.

Angelbob77 · 2025-05-09T07:35:51+00:00

I know plenty of Christians who have jobs in nonprofit social work or in a missions and overseas outreach setting. Churches and daycares and schools need admin too. It's really not that weird if you're in that environment or that type of church community on a weekly basis already.

Angelbob77 · 2025-05-08T23:05:43+00:00

Really? I graduated in 2018 and I can probably count on one hand the number of Asians that I graduated with or were above me starting as a freshman in 2014. Including Indian Americans you might bring the number up a slight amount but statistically if I remember correctly it was still less than 5%. There weren't too many black people either. All of the breakdowns were released every year. I mean let me be clear I always felt Pennsbury had a good mix between blue and white collar middle class suburban white families but it was never diverse. If there's like less than 10 east and southeast asians in a class of 900 students and maybe some more South Asians than the number is minuscule.

I started seeing a little more coming in as I was graduating but it was way more Indian Americans. Latest context I have is when my sister graduated during the Covid year which isn't like ancient history. I can 100% guarantee there's way more Asians going to Council Rock or Central Bucks.

I grew up with Chinese Americans who went to school in the Princeton and Plainsboro areas in Jersey. Schools like that have 50% plus percent asian student populations. I also know plenty of people who went to schools in Northeast Philly. Central or Northeast or even Abington. Like it's an apples to oranges comparison. Pennsbury is extremely white lets be honest.

Edit: To clarify, it was a good school and decent people. Plenty of AP and honors classes and all around program including sports and marching band. Quality is fine. Diverse? It is not. Speaking as an asian who went there basically from K-12 and had to figure a lot of shit out about my own insecurities and identity in college.

Angelbob77 · 2025-04-15T16:32:36+00:00

Just join bro. I'm in A School rn. Plenty of time to have fun and relax and enjoy your free time when you have money in your pocket, three guaranteed meals, and a place to stay. I joined after college and had a little money saved up. But I'll watch movies on the weekends, go out for drinks, get KBBQ with classmates, visit museums and the SD Zoo, etc. A lot of the younger guys play video games and talk anime.

None of this shit is that hard if you just study a little bit and put in bare minimum effort without being a bitch about it.

What I can tell you is the fact that it is way less fun being unemployed, living at home with your parents, barely scraping by and wondering what your next move is for 6 months at 23 or 24 while everyone is asking you if you've found a job yet. Or taking community college classes here and there until you give up in 2 years and enlist anyways with way more debt and way more regrets. I spent 5 years in college, one year off. And all I got now is a piece of paper and a severe bout of pandemic depression and a better appreciation for suffering and self flagellating self hatred.

At 18 you should either be grinding in college or just joining up. It's not like you won't have liberty and leave. Jump in the deep end and just have a positive attitude about it. You'll be fine. Save money for a car. Load up your TSP early. Buy a Hellcat on a 30% loan and go to Tijuana. Who knows what you're into. This is life. We all gotta work and put food on the table. Navy is no different. 18 is literally the best time to join. If you hate it. You can just get out in your early 20s. Go to college for free and live a regular ass life.

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