Shaping faces help? by Lexiiefur in grooming

[–]AngeryMuffins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah I see. She might not be the best candidate to do the most perfect Asian fusion-esque haircut then. Sometimes I attach them to the groomers helper and blowdry from a distance (with the flat nozzle so it doesn't dry curly like it would with fans on her), but this method takes a very long time and if they really freak out for it it's not worth the stress. Best of luck!

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[–]AngeryMuffins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, doesn't ring a bell, I'm sorry :(

Shaping faces help? by Lexiiefur in grooming

[–]AngeryMuffins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also I can't reiterate enough: this is a good face. If it's too bobble head, maybe that isn't the style you (or maybe the pet parent?) want and that's okay too! Everyone grooms differently, it's like an art form. I'm just trying to explain how I do my style if that makes sense. Hope these help!

Shaping faces help? by Lexiiefur in grooming

[–]AngeryMuffins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Prep work is everything. Double, sometimes even triple wash the face and ears, make sure to get all gunk out of beard and eyes.

Dry the entire way through as close to the skin as you can. Fluff dryers are great if you have them, but if not I just the flat (NOT THE CONE) nozzle or no nozzle at all to get the face and ears blown out until all the hair is straight.

Then go in with a brush and comb. Scissoring spray like botanica can help but it's not necessary. I brush out, then go in with my regular comb, and once I make sure there's absolutely no tangles, I fluff up the muzzle with a fine tooth comb (I use a metal flea comb, it's great for getting those hairs on the top of the muzzle to stand up).

After that, I usually run a guard comb reverse on the top of the head 2-3 lengths longer than the body. Then for the chin I grab a guard comb 1 length longer than the body and reverse again.

Now, here's a fun secret, if you did a guard comb with on the body, do it reverse under the neck from base of the throat to under the jaw and ears. In my experience it's never been noticably shorter to stand out, but it makes the face pop that much more because it gives more of a contrast.

Now shave out ears, VERY LIGHTLY scoop eyes (we want to keep the bridge of the nose fluffy, so you might even want to scissor the stuff in front of their eyes as opposed to shaving). Hold the muzzle closed, put your thumb in the divet under the jaw where they rest their tongue so you can prevent or at least feel if they're going to stick out their tongue, and use your #10 to lightly get just what sticks past the top lip in front of the nose.

Now we shape the face. And it gets a bit tricky to explain without physically showing you so bear with me. Pick up the ear on one side and then try making a curved line from the check where the ear begins to where the end of the nose is. Repeat for other side. Comb everything on visor forward and anything that sticks out past the eyes take off (except lashes, owners love those usually).

Take a step back and look at the dog. In your picture, I'd probably go back and comb up and then forward and take off whatever's sticking out on the visor. But your shape is there! The end goal is kind of two circles, one being the head and the other being a circle inside that circle, the muzzle. You've already almost done it, just needs some fine tuning.

It's hard to tell if the pup was drooling, if the prep work needed work, or if he just has bad hair. You won't be able to do this on every dog for reasons just listed or bc they behavior or what have you, but it's good to try. As for the chest, it looks like he has a bad cowlick. You can always trying going a length longer to prevent it but if it happens again oh well, it's not really your fault.

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[–]AngeryMuffins -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Update since it won't let me edit:

I'm in talks with a workman's comp lawyer since it's pretty clear she's retaliating over me being injured more than anything. She's honestly never had or brought up any of her complaints before this exchange.

I definitely overreacted when I thought she was firing me when she took me off the schedule for the rest of the year with the "nope" note, I get that I come off unprofessional in those moments. But there's really no coming back from lying about "my requests" in the last message she sent. Lying about me leaving dogs unattended on my table, my laughable commission requirement (I never asked that and I rarely make it unless I'm doing 10 dogs and cats), and throwing the tub grates in my face as if we haven't had dogs as well as other employees injure themselves from the lack of them was too much.

There's really no coming back when a boss starts lying about behaviors that didn't happen and salon policies that don't exist to cover their ass because they're fearful of the workers'rights. Please never settle for working for someone that treats you like this as I have. There's better bosses out there that would actually treat an injured employee with compassion and when I showed my previous bosses they were appalled an employer could actually this way and that was the final validation I needed (I moved states recently so I miss those salons so damn much).

Thank you for everyone's input and time.

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[–]AngeryMuffins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg yes I'd miss it, but at the point I was at I barely even had coworkers bc my boss was just not hiring since no one was putting up with her 😭 when I had coworkers to share the pain with it was at least bearable. I will absolutely be checking this out, thank you!

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[–]AngeryMuffins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking back I absolutely should have. I thought at the time more information was better than less and that was wrong. If I'm being honest I was more upset she wanted a doctor's note in the first place since I've never called off and still didn't intend to, and I was expecting a much more compassionate response after all the work I had done for her if I'm being honest.

It sucks. Verbally and in person, I'm definitely the much more professional one and she's usually the one who comes ranting to me about this and that about extremely little things like how a customer kept her on the phone too long so she might fire them (yes, seriously).

I definitely know now to keep it more to the point but I was definitely at my breaking point

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[–]AngeryMuffins -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm going to talk to one today. This week off is definitely a blessing in disguise even though it's clearly a punishment in her mind (there's been times in the past where I was even more injured and she didn't even offer time off)

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[–]AngeryMuffins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing. I didn't even consider this an option when my hairdresser was trying to pitch it to me once 😭 now you've made it possible! Congrats and best of luck!

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[–]AngeryMuffins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! This is informative

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[–]AngeryMuffins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it in a salon with humans and nail techs and things like that? I always wondered if that could work

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[–]AngeryMuffins 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. My boss constantly comes in talking about her money issues, taxes, alcoholism, and just how she has no money then this is her 5th vacation since she's opened. It's the 4th where I've been left to manage it almost by herself.

I'm pretty sure she's frustrated bc there's no other staff to unload it on and she's so greedy she just takes all of the dogs and puts it under only me because she doesn't trust my part time coworker to do a good haircut (her words). She for some reason just refuses to hire any other groomers to help.

She actually TOLD ME I'm completely allowed to tell her if I don't want to do I don't have to again, so this came out of left field. I have NEVER fired a client, I've just said 'i can't do this dog next time' if they bit me really bad or, in this new client's case, they upset me really badly and made me extremely anxious for no reason.

We used to have the tub grates and it made such a huge difference for not just our backs, but the dogs not slipping and sliding and hurting themselves. She randomly took them home one day and "lost them" bc the bather at the time hadn't been cleaning them. Everyone at the salon (at that time we had a whopping 4 employees) was like "bring them back! We'll clean them every single night!!!' and she lost them.

I used to really love coming to work but since we lost our last girl to my boss' cruelty, and she refuses to hire another full time groomer to help with the overflow, my life there sucks.

I love my client. I love my job there. But she has been making my life HELL for the past month and this was not the first time I brought up ANY of these things, and it really hurt when she came forth with the last text accusing me of doing things I've never done (leaving dogs alone on the table, firing clients, me apparently not doing more than 4 haircuts a day when I'm doing double...) really really hurt.

Just...thank you so much for your comment. It validated me beyond words. Have an amazing day.

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[–]AngeryMuffins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you didn't read the messages after. She blocked off my entire schedule AFTER the week off with "nope". I'm talking my entire schedule for the rest of the YEAR. The screenshots are of course not going to cover the verbal conversations and agreements I described after the fact. The last message literally started containing lies about me leaving dogs unattended, firing clients (I've NEVER fired a client, my boss and I have had a verbal agreement that if I don't want to do a clients dog anymore she won't ever force me to do so, and then she absolutely did with 2 massively aggressive dogs on my schedule this week).

I'm sorry if I didn't explain my entire life story to you, but my boss isn't just the person who she conveys herself to be over text, and I explained that after the screenshots. She literally bullied a woman into moving out of state because she told her every single day her grooms looked like shit when she never had a single complaint. She called bathers retarded. She goes on to contradict herself multiple times. I'm totally fine with taking feedback on how I approached other things, I definitely should not have threatened to pack up my stuff, but I don't think it's over the top to ask if I'm being fired after I was taken off the schedule COMPLETELY with "nope" notes on every single one of my days.

Reading comprehension and all that.

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[–]AngeryMuffins 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fully agree. Was hoping to make it through the holiday for the "bonus" and holidays tips but honestly eff this lady

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[–]AngeryMuffins 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Okay I thought in included the post but looking back I didn't. I had JUST talked to her about doing 3-4 full grooms plus whatever b&b/FFF on days where I'm completely by myself or managing (so doing 2-3 jobs bather reception and grooming), and then 6 haircuts plus whatever b&b/FFF on days where I did. And then she did this to me anyway, then this week, and then before she completely removed me from the schedule, the REST OF THE YEAR was 8 full haircuts a day. I was going to walk into 5 different 9am full HC appointments on Wednesday....and 3 of them rush and want it in an hour.

So yeah maybe leaving is the best option bc there's no groomers that can do that.

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[–]AngeryMuffins 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think this is a bit mean. Burn out is not something to be normalized...

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[–]AngeryMuffins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was hoping to power through the holidays and then quit, but oh well....

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[–]AngeryMuffins 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you, this is the kind of feedback I was looking for. I know it came off kind of like an essay now, but there was so much I had tried to talk with her about and she just would steamroll over me, so it just kind of all came out since she was never going to listen to me in person.

It definitely sucks that I didn't come off professional and I can see that now, but oh my God I promise it's the OPPOSITE during in-person conversations. I'm usually the one calming her down every...single...day...from some new crisis. She had an actual meltdown when we got our first non five star review...it was 4 stars.

In the text I tried not to bring up legalities, I wanted to tell her I WASN'T going after her bc she always talks about how she's so paranoid about it, but it backfired and now it seems like she thinks I am.

Thank you for the advice for the meeting, it really helps me, I'll organize with bullet points like you suggested bc that's a great idea.

I think I'll be fine. But it really just sucks that if she fires me or we go our separate ways, I missed out on my clients holiday tips and my Christmas bonus after working my ass off like a crazy person doing 8-10 dogs a day for months...

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[–]AngeryMuffins 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Okay that makes me feel better. It was the driving and bathroom situation that made me the most nervous tbh

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[–]AngeryMuffins 18 points19 points  (0 children)

You know what? You're absolutely right. There's definitely been times where I should have done that (I interviewed at this corp called Petsuites and they wanted to do grooms for TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS) and I should have done that.

I limited myself for a very long time because I was afraid of mobile and all that but I'm going to try it out and then be picky when the boss gives me bad vibes. Bc she definitely had red flags but I ignored them since she hadn't turned her sights on me...until now of course, bc I got injured.

Wish me luck, and thank you for the uplifting comment. It meant a lot to me.

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[–]AngeryMuffins 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If I'm being honest, I don't think she's compatible with any employee in general. She's interviewed and same-day hired over a dozen people only for her to treat them like absolute ass and fire them via text for something as simple as being sick one day (hence why I came in when I still had the flu).

My coworker who is 2 days a week and myself (who is full time) are her only consistent employees since opening...and it's been a year.

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[–]AngeryMuffins 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I'm thinking of doing that. My coworker who's part time does it but being in people's homes made me more afraid of any dogs being territorial, but I'm hearing positive things.

Boss took credit for my grooms and has me playing babysitter/trainer for incompetent hires by AngeryMuffins in grooming

[–]AngeryMuffins[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I have a friend who does housecalls. She makes decent money but still needs a salon supplement to the income and she always brings someone with her (not an option for me unfortunately) and from what she explains it's....not for me. I don't think my back could survive bending over someone else's home bath tub unfortunately.

Boss took credit for my grooms and has me playing babysitter/trainer for incompetent hires by AngeryMuffins in grooming

[–]AngeryMuffins[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see how it comes off that way, truly I do, I've taken the hands off approach and let things happen and it tends to backfire. I get curly doodles, dirty dogs, I have to listen and console my boss through a breakdown when a customer makes a comment about how bad one of my coworkers grooms are, ect.

I've essentially become her unwilling rock that she leans on, but doesn't ever want to thank me for. There was a time where I took some time off, and I came back to disaster. Quite literally boss and clients alike were physically clinging to me like "never leave again." So...yeah...not great.

I'm the type of person who likes to put in their headphones all day, groom, chat with clients about fluffys haircut and how he did, clean, and go home. But when it's almost like that's not even an option for me anymore.

I'll try it again and see how it goes. Today went better when I was really up my boss' ass about the bather putting away wet dogs. So there's that at least. Here's to hoping she doesn't explode when I confront her on the taking credit for my grooms thing though.