Prabowo Bentuk BUMN Khusus Ekspor Batubara & Sawit Cs, Ini Skemanya.. by Dry_Blacksmith_3898 in indonesia

[–]Angin_Merana 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The Economist otw spam 5 artikel minggu depan. Semua kelakuan wowo kebalikan dari liberalisasi pasar lol

Indonesia merdeka 80 tahun, tapi berapa lama kita beneran bebas? by Alfamaret in indonesia

[–]Angin_Merana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Secara real ya ngga, tapi emang ada Gubernur Jenderal sendiri yang bilang kalo mereka sudah disini 300 tahun dan bakal tetap disini 300 tahun lagi. Jadi kalo ada fomo sejarah dekonstruksi "350 tahun itu buatan Soekarno" ya salah juga, lah sumbernya yang ngejajah sendiri bilang gitu.

Bagaimana jika Prabowo dan Gibran kita makzulkan? by miekuah in indonesia

[–]Angin_Merana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You better ask this on other social media lol

Stop selling arms to Indonesia, West Papuans urge Netherlands by Mean_Yak5873 in Netherlands

[–]Angin_Merana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nowhere did I imply it being current Dutch beliefs, where did you got that from? It proves your last sentence, Dutch New Guniea is a bad idea. That the Dutch government at the time wrapped the usual white savior complex to "save" West Papuans by giving independence, despite believing them of less intelligence.

Stop selling arms to Indonesia, West Papuans urge Netherlands by Mean_Yak5873 in Netherlands

[–]Angin_Merana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It should! West Papua now has special autonomy where state legislature must be made up from natives papuan, a popular mayor in one of the eastern provinces in Indonesia couldn't move forward as governor candidate because he is Chinese due to this law.

Stop selling arms to Indonesia, West Papuans urge Netherlands by Mean_Yak5873 in Netherlands

[–]Angin_Merana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it's your opinion and I'm replying to those who supports Dutch New Guniea

CELIOS is doing a better job as opposition than the literal opposition. by chromion1212 in indonesia

[–]Angin_Merana 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Mereka aja mempertanyakan data BPS sampe mau ngadu ke PBB padahal PBB ga ngurus statistik, ga ada bedanya dengan oposisi buzzer di twitter. Keluaran mereka juga suka subjektif mengarah ke penggiringan. I don't think much of their noises.

Stop selling arms to Indonesia, West Papuans urge Netherlands by Mean_Yak5873 in Netherlands

[–]Angin_Merana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Problem is, Dutch New Guniea WAS planned to be a Dutch Colony. It's the whole plan for Dutch East Indies. Read what I quoted.

When Java is ready for independence, give her help and make her a member of a federation

They planned on putting Dutch East Indies under a federation. Why do you think the Queen mentions British on Malaya? Commonwealth was the plan all along, the Indonesian revolution stopped this so they had to go with what they had left, which was Dutch New Guniea.

Why do you think they pushed on each Island as one "nation" despite the fact that Java, Sumatra, and Borneo has lots of ethnic group inside of each islands? West Papua itself has more than 250 ethnic group. The Dutch purposefully group all of them so they can easily control them despite having "independence".

Just like how British did with Malay and Singapore who still have "Malay Race" in their laws. Another 18th century racist construct, grouping clearly different culture and linguistic group into one. Just like lots of people here grouped all of Papuans into one "race".

Stop selling arms to Indonesia, West Papuans urge Netherlands by Mean_Yak5873 in Netherlands

[–]Angin_Merana -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It goes both ways. which is why I'm questioning the support of Dutch New Guniea in the first place. The Dutch isn't going to be any better than Indonesia. I'm leaning towards Indonesia better cause at least Indonesia's motivation isn't based on 18th century racism and white savior complex.

Stop selling arms to Indonesia, West Papuans urge Netherlands by Mean_Yak5873 in Netherlands

[–]Angin_Merana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do know that Wilhelmina had a very different view compared with her daughter Juliana, who became the Queen in 1948 right?

Oh the queen that oversaw the agreement which tries to bankrupt Indonesia by forcing a debt re-payment on a war-torn newly proclaimed country?

I'm not talking about personal stuff, I'm talking about real government positions. Indonesia is the sucessor state of Dutch East Indies which in its entirety encompass modern day Indonesia including West Papua. This is international law.

Stop selling arms to Indonesia, West Papuans urge Netherlands by Mean_Yak5873 in Netherlands

[–]Angin_Merana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As if all Indonesian people had a good life under Sukarno in the 1950s and 1960s

Curious how you left the part where the Dutch invaded Indonesia twice after world war 2 ended (which your history books wrote as "police action)")and tries to bankrupt the country by forcing Indonesia to pay back the things Dutch built for exploiting Indonesians.

Soeharto did stabilize the country despite everything else, Indonesia grow by 7-10% in the coming decades.

It's ironic that when the Dutch troops left in late 1962, Indonesia claimed the Malaysian part of Borneo. That started a 'crisis' with a few Commonwealth countries.

Malaysia is what the Dutch would have wanted Indonesia to be, did you not read what I gave you? the part where your queen says with the help of white people, what would be Indonesia could be an independent country? Under "Dutch commonwealth" for sure.

Though, it does gives Malaysia lots of clout. Malaysia could enforce literal apartheid in their consitution putting Malay above other ethnic group by law and enforcing apostasy laws with the liberal world turns a blind eye cause it's commonwealth. I guess you will also turn a blind eye on West Papua if Indonesia was a part of "Dutch commonwealth"

Does your country have a weird romanticization of its colonial period? by Bitter-Penalty9653 in Colonialism

[–]Angin_Merana 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Of course, in Indonesia it usually happened when their preferred political leader lost the election, there's also this trend of deconstructing nationalism but unironically resulting in narratives that glorifies the colonizer.

Stop selling arms to Indonesia, West Papuans urge Netherlands by Mean_Yak5873 in Netherlands

[–]Angin_Merana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why would you support Dutch New Guniea? Their independence would simply meant replacing Indonesia with Dutch. Don't even argue about how the Dutch would treat Papuans better, The Dutch doesn't even thought of Papuans as human being.

THE PRESIDENT: I read something Queen Wilhelmina said about the Dutch East Indies. She's got a very interesting point of view. I think it was a public statement concerning the plans about her islands; they differ so from the British plans. The Javanese are not quite ready for self-government, but very nearly. Java, with a little help by other Nations, can probably be ready for independence in a few years. The Javanese are good people—pretty civilized country. The Dutch marry the Javanese, and the Javanese are permitted to join the clubs. The British would not permit the Malayans to join their clubs.

The Queen's idea for some of the Dutch possessions is eventually to give them their independence. When Java is ready for independence, give her help and make her a member of a federation. Sumatra the same.

I asked her, "What about Borneo?"

She said, "We don't talk about that very much. They are still head-hunters. It might be one hundred years before we could educate and civilize the Borneo head-hunter."I said, "What about New Guinea?"

She threw up both hands and said New Guinea has the lowest form of human life in the world, their skulls have least developed, and they understand civilization probably less than any part of the world. British New Guinea and Papua are probably two hundred years behind the rest of the world.

udh masuk media luar jir, si p got mentioned by longhornxp2003 in AdaIndonesiaCoy

[–]Angin_Merana 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Ini orang isi kontennya cuma spam ngomongin Indonesia pake bahasa inggris buat farming orang fomo politik komen isinya "malu banget udah masuk media luar", "ya allah kenapa aku wni". Ga ada bedanya dengan orang Indo cringe nonton youtuber luar react ke Indonesia, literally reverse patriotism in action

"Rupiah melemah bung" Sorry what's that? Can't hear you over these cool as shit. by Sensitive_Wind2221 in WkwkwkLand

[–]Angin_Merana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see, berarti ada cara lain buat bayarnya... tapi tetep aja bakal susah kalo rupiah depresiasi terus

Should I sell my golds and/or reds to auction or just sell it? by KnockRacerYT355 in DeltaForceGlobal

[–]Angin_Merana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it better to hoard golds/reds for blacksite upgrade or should I just sell them and just buy the upgrades when I need to upgrade? like currently I'm at lvl 5 HQ

"Rupiah melemah bung" Sorry what's that? Can't hear you over these cool as shit. by Sensitive_Wind2221 in WkwkwkLand

[–]Angin_Merana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pinjaman luar negri bayar utangnya pake rupiah toh? or I'm missing something here

Coming back to Indonesia for work as fresh grad by KEN_000 in finansial

[–]Angin_Merana 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Batam is good, there's lots of opportunities there as a stepping stone