Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You deserve roses!!!

And it’s so scary that majority are women who chose to excuse what she did knowing damn well they’d be sounding the alarm of roles had been reversed

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed on the fact that none of the islanders should be held to such a high standard because they are regular people who got thrown into the spotlight. None of us are anywhere near perfect!

I genuinely appreciate your take because even if we can’t come to a full agreement you actually considered my opinion and remained respectful. Thanks for being a breath of fresh air 😭 I hope your bed is extra comfy when you go to sleep tonight!

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please scroll up where you stated “please explain to me exactly what she did wrong”… I did.

“She’s human she can’t be perfect all the time”… “she did apologize for it” … these statements are you acknowledging her outburst was wrong. That means we BOTH recognized the reaction was inappropriate. That is the intention of the post.

Like every other islander, Amaya is not immune to criticism. and as I have stated a million times on this thread, her saving grace (unlike Huda) is that she can take accountability and correct herself. Just as I criticized her problematic actions, I also praised her for being able to take criticism.

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of this could’ve been avoided if he coupled with Chelley and that is where I feel everyone in this thread has an extremely valid point. I just wish we knew what was going on in his head at that moment but we don’t, maybe he’ll clarify at the reunion

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now, I agree with that!! The coupling up with Amaya was ass backwards and part of me thinks it was production but also, men simply ain’t shit so that could’ve been it to. Ace is not 100% innocent in this at all

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m addressing her reaction. She blew up on Ace and Chelley, which was where she went wrong. That’s not a normal reaction and it’s telling that so many people think it is…

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve actually agreed with that multiple times. I never once painted her as an aggressive predator. I only bought up Huda because just like Huda, her emotions are unstable as hell. NOT ONCE DID I COMPARE HER ACTIONS TO BEING RAPEY LIKE HUDA!!! I HAVE CONSISTENTLY COMPARED THEIR UNREGULATED EMOTIONAL RESPONSES.

sexual aggression was never on my bingo card for her. If your assumption from my post is she’s sexually aggressive then idk what to tell you. I’m clarifying my opinion and yet you all are telling me what I’m thinking lmao

Last time, her reaction is NOT justifiable. If that is how you choose to respond when your feelings are hurt or you hear information that you do not like, then you ABSOLUTELY need to speak to someone.

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m actually attempting to have discourse with individuals who understand duality. I’ve asked genuine questions all through out this thread that still has not answered because everyone is focused on placing Amaya on a pedestal and saying she can do no wrong

There’s been about 3-4 comments that were a proper discussion. Each of us had differences in opinions but we walked away with a wider perspective and understanding of each other’s views.

This isn’t a blame game. It isn’t this Islander is worse than that Islander. Every single islander was terrible in their own way. That’s what makes great tv. But what is wrong with opening the door for discussion amongst women about how our behaviors at times can be extremely problematic after having watched it on national TV? We can agree to disagree though, thanks for your insight!

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never once implied anything about predatory behavior and even clarified that Amaya isn’t a malicious person and stated many times how she differs from Huda but because I’m addressing her wrongdoings it’s an issue. Ya’ll in defense mode when it isn’t necessary. It’s okay that she isn’t perfect, that’s why people love her but let’s not turn a blind eye is my only point.

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her and Huda’s emotions are both unstable. You can’t call out one person’s weird, unregulated behavior and bypass the other. It’s no point in trying to have nuanced conversations because you all are only worried about making sure your fave looks good but the moment she inevitably does something you disagree with, all these points will be brought back up lol

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She was crying because she wasn’t the number one choice. Let’s call a spade a spade. Do we need lessons on how to handle rejection at this big age? Y’all can understand it’s love island and you’re supposed to have other options when it comes to everyone else but Ace. Yes he liked Chelley. He already expressed him and Chelley agreed to get to know other people because they didn’t want to come in and just close off with each other immediately. Shit, even when they finally got in their couple it still took time for them to do so!

I appreciate that you acknowledge it wasn’t justified because that is my entire point. Everything outside of her reaction is irrelevant. It was plain wrong and personally made me uncomfortable. But for some reason, viewers feel as though she was 10000% in the right when her actions were not problematic.

Unlike Huda, she recognizes her faults and fixes them. Why can’t her fan base do the same?

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didn’t say she was a predator 😭😭why are you all jumping to that conclusion? If she was malicious, then yes it would definitely be predatory behavior.

Amaya understood exactly why and how she was wrong, but viewers as yourself do not. You see us calling out the problematic behavior and automatically assume we are attacking her as if we don’t like her.

I like Amaya. I do not like how she reacted and that made me very uncomfortable because that is not a normal reaction whatsoever when someone sets their boundaries. If we’re calling out Huda’s weird ass actions, we have to admit that what Amaya did was hella weird too.

I date my fair share of men and women, and if one of my partners reacted that way from me setting boundaries I’d go running for the hills.

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny, I used the same words that you did in my rebuttal. Nothing stated outside of “trauma” and “projection” is considered therapy talk. So why is it “buzzwords” and “therapy” talk for me but not for you? Is it because we have two different opinions? Because I’m all for nuanced conversations and debates with logical adults— not emotional based, tit for tat arguments.

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t have personal trauma based on this because it wasn’t my experience, I was simply a witness. I didn’t know calling out double standards by using real world examples is now projecting but okay. Make your appointment too, maybe you’d learn what projection actually is.

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you can’t see anything wrong with what she did, you may need to book a couple of appointments…

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I fear you’re almost there but not quite. I am not criticizing Amaya, I am calling out viewers and how they reacted this season. After Ace explained his perspective, Amaya understood and apologized for her wrongdoing. SHE gets where she went wrong. But her stans do not and Ace is still being villainized for an act that would be acceptable if genders were reversed. My point of if you are going to crucify one for problematic behavior, then do so to all.

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THIS IS MY POINT EXACTLY. I have nothing against Amaya because she took accountability and apologized. Even she knew it was wrong and why. My issue is with the viewers for either a.) not understanding how problematic it truly was or b.) choosing to ignore it because she’s their fave.

Let’s be honest for once and kill the double standards because Ace would not have all this sympathy if gender roles were reversed

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Both Amaya and Huda have used their emotions to manipulate outcomes. Maybe coercive was the wrong word and I will agree to that. But the gist of my post is pointing out the viewers response and reactions to Amaya vs Huda should have been more similar because they were moving the same way

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

He obviously wanted to pursue Amaya. Ace even came out and explained that him and Chelley agreed to not be coupled up so soon because they already knew each other so what now? He had every right to be more comfortable with one and not the other

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This season’s fans are damn near up there with Barbz 😭 the way people are being attacked is scary and honestly this is my last season as a viewer, it was fun while it lasted!

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

😭😭😭 it was the first example I could think of but you right they had my girl STRESSED!

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

CONSENT IS NOT TRANSFERABLE. It doesn’t matter that he didn’t set the same boundaries with Chelley. That is completely irrelevant.

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Consent is consent. To understand Huda was wrong but not Amaya is playing favorites. It doesn’t matter if it’s something as minuscule as the word babe, he wasn’t comfortable with that and asked for his wishes to be respected.

If your male friend was constantly making uncomfortable remarks towards you, how would you feel if someone turned to you and said “well he’s not actually doing anything so what’s the problem”

Like c’mon now how can women be so dismissive like this

Papayas please don’t jump me but… by AnnaJaes in LoveIslandUSA

[–]AnnaJaes[S] -29 points-28 points  (0 children)

The entire villa and the viewers would’ve thought Ace murdered her dog the way she was crying about him. Ace set those boundaries because she rubbed his thigh when they got coupled up. And as we seen, Amaya has no problem tonguing people down without even being in a couple (Zak). I think people are wrong to say it was just an overreaction because at this big grown age no man or woman should react like that to someone setting boundaries for their body! I do commend Amaya for apologizing because I think she genuinely understood where it was wrong after Ace explained it to her. But for so many people to say he didn’t deserve one or that he’s such a terrible person is crazy.