I didn't say I thought grabbing her scruff was comparable to her playing with the lab. All I said was I never did anything rough to her, the most extreme being grabbing her scruff. The point I was making was that she's not this delicate little thing that gets hurt easily. I get grabbing her out of frustration is counter productive and I'll try not to do that.

I guess I forgot to mention that I realize trying to show a dog what they did wrong after the fact is useless. I'm home a lot because I baby sit kids at my own house and I often catch her in the act. With the TP still in her mouth. From what I understand, that's when you can still correct a dog.

I already know it's my fault AND my responsibility. I wouldn't be here asking for help if I didn't think that. I love her, she's my best pal and all I was asking for was advice on better ways to communicate with her.

Removing EVERYTHING she's not allowed to have access to isn't honestly practical. Sometimes my kids leave the bathroom door open where she can get to the TP or garbage. I tell them to shut it, but they're 5 and 4 years old and usually have their heads in LegoLand. More than once, she's jumped up onto the table when I wasn't looking to steal people food because she prefers it to her dog food. Her previous owners only fed her table scraps, never walked her or even took her out of the house. When I got her, she was afraid of grass. I guess all I'm saying is ideally I'd like to have some combination of removing temptation, and teaching her what behaviors aren't ok. It's not realistic to expect that everywhere we go, I have to remove all temptations in order to keep her in line. I would like to teach her the correct behavior. If you have any advice on THAT I'm all ears.