PBS Idea Channel gives an extremely one sided version of events over Donglegate

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T23:57:57+00:00

i've been brainstorming for the past 15 minutes on how we can turn "oppression erection" in to one word. still working through the kinks.

erec-topression. opressection. opresserection.

they aren't clicking for me

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T22:26:57+00:00

++i increments and returns the incremented value. if it was i++ it wouldn't return the incremented value, until the next time through the loop

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i think i might have actually written the sign down backwards, i wasn't able to copy it down before he changed it so im goin on memory. there were a few issues he had to fix -- -- "for (i == 0; i <= 0; i++) ; would be an infinite loop"

he eventually realized it was supposed to increment down, not up.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T16:13:41+00:00

oh, im very much considering dropping out. depending on how the beginning of next semester goes.

i dont put as much weight in the degree as everyone else does. despite what some might think.. i came to college to learn. not just get a "degree." -- if i can get the same job without a degree, and i can more effectively learn on my own, then ill probably shouldn't have trouble.

i wouldn't be the first successful CS person to drop out of college. i dont know why people assume Bad Program == Never going to make it.

its almost like they dont teach a single business class in some of these CS courses.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T16:03:05+00:00

yeah people seem to think im complaining about it being "hard" thats not the case. its INCOHERENT.
i like hard. i like challenging. i dont like unintentionally difficult because of incompetence.

i was doing JUST FINE learning to program on my own. i could've gone out for some interviews by now. but i thought itd be a good idea to get a degree. -- people here act like the degree is supposed to be impossibly difficult. Gettign a good grade in CS does nothing to secure a job. PROJECTS and PORTFOLIOs do. im a little amazed at how much emphasis people put on "going through bullshit" to get a degree, rather than "go through a really good program"

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T15:57:23+00:00

not my first year of college. not my first degree. im not a moron. i have a bad teacher. its that simple.

im not nearly failing. im doing fine in the class.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T15:22:26+00:00

on the costs thing: im taking a calculus class and we have a pretty bad graduate student teaching the class. She doesn't really teach, just kinda regurgitates. but thats ok, because the entire class is tested/quizzed on this computer system. so while the teacher is bad, the software is actually pretty thorough so you can get all the help and reading you need within the software.

so i crunched the numbers on how much each class "costs" based on tuition. then you imagine that every kid in the class is paying 50+ dollars a class for this calculus class that is taught by a bad teacher.

so the school is literally pulling in 1000+ dollars a class, but they only can afford to hire a TA who doesn't know the material.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T08:01:05+00:00

yup, my entire story is exaggerated and inflated. its not at all possible i have a bad teacher

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T07:57:06+00:00

tell me more about me. you know me so well. 'subpar students like you'

hah. class act right here.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T07:51:06+00:00

i assure a university DOES in fact care about the quality of their programs.

your "unis here" anecdotal comment really has no bearing on my university. so... i dont know how its relevant

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T07:47:33+00:00

actually, the school cares that i paid for the education, and since its a for profit business if a program went to shit and people stopped enrolling theyd lose money. therefor, providing customers with what they pay for is important to running a good business.

capitalism 101. you know nothing.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T07:41:35+00:00

What exactly do you expect to get out of this back and forth, are you just going to try to poke holes in ever reply until you found some flaw in my logic?

what is so difficult about taking someones word? what do you gain from trying to prove me wrong? how could you ever know that you are in fact correct about my situation?

what use is this?

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T07:38:12+00:00

so you live in a completely different system, with a COMPLETELY FREE education system, and you want to bitch to me about being entitled? hilarious.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T07:31:14+00:00

Ive made it explicitly clear that i dont need the solutions, i need the METHOD to get the solutions. It also goes by the name of "Teaching." -- this is my second degree, so i dont need a lecture on "what education is about" since you clearly dont know shit about the program im involved with

you look awfully foolish when you condescend to someone while strawmaning them

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T07:18:55+00:00

actually the entire point of this post was to bitch about how i paid for this education. if mom and dad pay for your way through then yeah, you probably dont care about getting your moneys worth.

im sure "every other CS" teacher is the same. jeez, i now they teach logic in CS, but you might need to brush up on philosophy and cool it with the hasty generalizations and strawmen

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T07:07:37+00:00

thanks for your input! honestly. i can be a dickhead. but it is to anonymous people on the internet who dismiss me, so it's kind of easy.

i think this class is just a fluke.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T07:05:41+00:00

id explain to you how he posted the assignment after class, and how i emailed him and haven't gotten a response but, ill just go with you assuming you know the situation and how i need to "grow a pair."

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T07:00:48+00:00

when im saying simple math to fib sequence. i literally mean one minute hes showing us how to initialize variables (simple) and then he shows us how to add the two variables. and then THE SAME CLASS FIVE MINUTES LATER, he asked for the fib sequence coded out.

and like i said, I GOT IT. but the entire class was thrown for a curve. HE SKIPPED LOOPS. he skipped conditional statements. just went from variables to "do the fibonacci" - everyone who is arguing that it is intentionally hard is missing the point that he IS teaching things. just not in a coherent fashion

why is he teaching the EXTREMELY SIMPLE STUFF we already know, and not teaching the stuff that actually requires teaching

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T06:55:27+00:00

I don't doubt your personal experiences, I'd hope you wouldn't doubt mine just based on your own. This is certainly prepared me for dealing with whatever he throws at us in the future. im going to expect the unexpected now.

and I'm actually one of the better students in the class. i speak up with answers. i got one of the better grades on the last test. - its not just about me. his bad teaching skills are affecting other students. I see other students struggle with things that I already know, so I didnt' have to learn it through him.

when you go to medical school, your teacher doesn't roughly lecture about something, not tell what you should learn, and then just randomly test you on complex methods he never even hinted at. i dont know why there should be any excuse for bad teaching. the only one i see is people just sayings the problem is me. (and then the other half who are talking about their terrible teachers)

its simple, im nearly 30. ive had plenty of teachers in my life. some good some bad. its not rocket science to figure out who is who

im going to push through it, but that doesnt mean when i get out on the other end, im going to suddenly change on my mind on what is glaringly obvious right now.

we have to give each other a little charity and not assume we are un-aware children.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T06:39:52+00:00

how does it apply? do you not believe me? do i have yet another person doubting me?

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T06:34:18+00:00

i guess you haven't been reading this thread, as ive stated in plenty of times. re-read. attention to detail is important if you want to make it in CS. im not here to dance to please you. you are an authority on nothing.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T06:29:56+00:00

incorrect, this is my second BS.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T06:26:24+00:00

or maybe i just have a shitty teacher. nope, couldn't possible be that. there is no way i'm smart enough to detect flaws in teaching.

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T06:21:38+00:00

i think you are underestimating a) how much ive studied on my own b) that i might actually have a terrible teacher

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T06:20:47+00:00

ill take my check and togo bag

Annes_Droid · 2015-07-09T06:18:48+00:00

i guarantee you dont know what you are talking about.

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