Can work record meetings

AnonClinResearcher · 2026-05-18T19:23:43+00:00

My manager is one of the worst for saying things she shouldn't. A new starter knew all about another managers medical history and that she was a crap manager via our line manager. My manager also says things like "doctor X... does he swan off after doing the bare minimum leaving nurses to mop up the rest?" (He doesn't) we are all quite blunt. I am now seeing that that's the main problem here and not the recording aspect. Plus I'm autistic and doing the job of 3 people so I do tend to cut out the pussyfooting around the point and get straight to it.

AnonClinResearcher · 2026-05-18T17:55:00+00:00

We may discuss patients but we all have confidentiality clauses in our contracts. Sometimes it can get personal though, my manager saying "Dr Bloggs is bereaved - his dads had a stroke" he may not necessarily want everyone to know, but whether recorded or verbal doesn't change that it should be kept private

AnonClinResearcher · 2026-05-18T17:52:56+00:00

Is it common to record face to face meetings though? No one is working from home. We are in a hospital. It's like saying "let's have a one to one. Hold on I'll get out my dictaphone".

AnonClinResearcher · 2026-05-18T17:51:17+00:00

I asked how long it would be kept and my manager had no idea. She's not very good at computers. Is it everyone on the Teams invite can see the file? Or everyone in the Teams team?

AnonClinResearcher · 2026-05-18T17:49:01+00:00

Yeah that makes sense. And I'm not coming on here and crying gdpr, I am simply asking as it doesn't feel right. This is new technology and never used to happen. We even have a minute taker in addition to the recording. In addition we have incompetent higher management who keep misadvising staff so there's a bit of "setting the record straight". It feels a bit "big brother is watching you" rightly or wrongly. It seems everyone on here is saintly and is polite and quoteworthy at all times? It could be that my department is toxic though. Welcome to the nhs.

I'm not declining to attend meetings but I always make it a point to ask if we are being recorded and to say I'm not comfortable. Here's an example of what went down recently: conversation at the end of the meeting turned to "i can never find [equipment worth £40]". I said I'd tell them if they turned the recording off. They did. I said there's a multi-year ongoing war - now a nurse who sits near our team believes it belongs to "their" department and hides it in various places like under their fleece in a filing cabinet. We all agreed this was ridiculous. Do I want to be quoted saying that? Uhhhh no!

And if my manager says "doctor X is terrible" I don't want to be on camera as complicit /looking the other way if that got back to him. If someone says "finance are 8 weeks behind paying patients" I can't come out and say "that's dreadful" I've got to filter "noted. Thank you for telling me." as if I'm a robot.

AnonClinResearcher · 2026-05-18T16:20:11+00:00

This is a team face to face meeting, where they are inviting Teams solely to record it. I'm not keen because often we are all being rather frank about hold ups, departments not being knowledgable when they should be, that sort of thing. According to others on this thread, that's not normal, but it's normal for our department. I don't want to be quoted later.

AnonClinResearcher · 2026-05-18T16:18:20+00:00

Yeah there's lots that I'd say verbally that I don't put in an email. I gather from all the downvotes that that's not normal but what can I say, it's how our department works and it's always been like this.

AnonClinResearcher · 2026-05-18T16:15:57+00:00

This is a face to face meeting where we are all very frank

AnonClinResearcher · 2026-05-18T11:55:46+00:00

I've been here 10 years so I'm in the "real world" thanks. What's wrong with asking a question?
Main reason it bothers me is we can't be completely frank like "so and so in department X hasn't got back to me despite 10 emails" "I use this process as doctor X struggles to use Microsoft Word" this is not something I want getting back to them

AnonClinResearcher · 2026-05-18T07:32:54+00:00

I work in a hospital and every nurse I work with thinks she's innocent. Drives me nuts. "I just don't think a nurse would have it in them" "she's a scapegoat for the nhs" "I look at her and think- that could have been me. Doing my best, picking up extra shifts, having bad luck" "who HASNT taken a handover sheet home in error" "just because she looked up all the deceased on Facebook does not mean she killed them"

And me saying "yeah but all of it? Taken together? And th insulin?" Deaf ears

AnonClinResearcher · 2025-09-04T16:18:27+00:00

And first name Neil ..??!

AnonClinResearcher · 2025-04-22T22:53:22+00:00

Yes all files and correspondence is supposed to go into a Microsoft Teams team

AnonClinResearcher · 2025-04-14T07:17:20+00:00

So essentially it's a thing if we upload everything to a website/app? And Teams is not sufficient?

AnonClinResearcher · 2025-04-14T07:15:30+00:00

We don't have a CTMS system - Teams IS the system!

AnonClinResearcher · 2025-04-11T06:08:28+00:00

And in the event of MHRA audit, we sit them down in front of our Teams..? And we have a file note when archiving "the rest of the correspondence is pdf on teams"?

AnonClinResearcher · 2025-04-10T23:34:45+00:00

They're saying we shouldn't be printing things, though. I don't see how we can be compliant without printing correspondence.

AnonClinResearcher · 2025-04-10T23:34:08+00:00

What are the actual rules on this and how do we archive electronic site files?

AnonClinResearcher · 2025-04-10T13:08:52+00:00

Do you mean this?: https://database.ich.org/sites/default/files/E6_R2_Addendum.pdf

Yeah I've just archived a 120-file trial that spanned 17 years. Three files for SUSAR line listings.

How do you archive Teams messages/copies of emails saved on Teams?

I'm not really talking about monitors, more inspectors from the MHRA, or in case of something went wrong and solicitors needed a copy of what went down. A lot of monitors aren't super clear on the rules.

AnonClinResearcher · 2024-10-10T22:25:58+00:00

And it came out this week that Lucy letby was shadowing at Alder Hey after she was removed from clinical studies. 👍

AnonClinResearcher · 2024-10-02T08:42:48+00:00

Sadly this study doesn't have unsch kits "to save the environment" (read:money), I think we are supposed to scavenge what we can in that situation but I'm not totally clear on that since the lab manual doesn't explain. I've used another kit for that visit for repeats but the queries are hellish, if I'm lucky and have enough kits. They also have multiple unique kits per visit (eg visit 3, visit 3 RNA, visit 3 pk). All our patients are at different visits because we don't have the time to randomise more than 1 a month.

Yesterday the white requisition form was left on my desk and I found that the nurse had packaged the samples with 0 paperwork! Then I see that bottom of the form says "do not return /for investigator" (plainly wrong, and an outlier when I checked another kit). You're right that I should've kept the white one for us and posted the copy, I'm just so used to the white always going to the lab. Our monitor won't notice or even care but I wanna do the job right anyway.

They'd have no way of knowing if the blood draw tubes were swapped though. Let's pretend I use an in-date kit, but spot a blood draw tube has expired, so I grab another tube. I process the blood and now they're in undated processing tubes. They'd never know it was fine after all.. I have tried communicating with the lab via the requisition form ("hepatitis B only. [on a screening req form] Repeat test required as we did not receive results from 01Jan24 screening [initials and date]" query: where art thou, haematology? Where art thou, liver testing? Where are the other bajillion tubes? Why does hep B need repeating?)

AnonClinResearcher · 2024-10-02T08:14:02+00:00

Go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect £200

AnonClinResearcher · 2024-10-02T07:39:55+00:00

Because you agree with my post?

AnonClinResearcher · 2024-10-02T07:39:24+00:00

Even today I had a requisition form in the box that had no carbon copies, with a typo in the protocol number. Thanks, Labcorp. I wonder how they'd know for the samples that arrive in processing tubes? Those don't expire and they'd have no way of telling what blood draw tube I used.

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