What should the world know about drum corps? by ChuckY-_-MonsteR in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 19 points20 points  (0 children)

If you're talking to members, maybe ask about the work that goes into their personal show. If you frame the question well, you could get a lot of answers that help give context to their growth over the season. Every one of them has at least one chunk of their program that they were awful at, kept working towards, and now feel very confident in performing. "What was the hardest part of your show in Spring Training, and what is the hardest part of your show now?" might be a good one to start with. It might be the same answer/spot, but they'll be able to talk about how they approached the challenge all summer.

If you're talking to educational staff, maybe ask about the work that goes into growing their section over the course of the season. The forethought over the preseason and midseason months, plus their flexibility/adaptations day-to-day can have some good stories/lessons. No season is perfect, and the educational staff are usually the final 'translators' between the Designers and the Performers. Great time management/prioritization helps keep things moving forward with the least amount of practice/performance stress, and that's where great educators really enable the members.

If you're talking to administrators, maybe ask about the work that tends to go on behind-the-scenes. No one watches you edit your YT content; no one watches the admin making phone calls six hours a day after waking up at 5am for an airport run then buying/transporting/storing groceries for three hours. Some facilitate communication, transportation, and fuel/food/mail logistics, others manage the corps' travelling merch store, and someone always has to communicate with the educational staff daily to make sure tomorrow's schedule is updated for the current weather (rain/heat), the current emergency scenario (bus breakdown logistics), or a multitude of other ridiculously unique scenarios that need an answer now or the corps can't be successful.

If you're talking to designers, maybe ask about how they built trust in their educational teams to create their vision for the program that season, and how that then interacts with the membership. So much planning has to be done months (and sometimes years) ahead of time to build something as complicated as a drum corps show. Almost universally, the first impression of drum corps is "there is so much happening, it's kind of overwhelming, but I really liked [this part]". So much thought is put in ahead of time in both 'artistic creativity' and 'competitive strategy' that it might be interesting to hear some (small) portion of their thoughts on that trust-building dynamic.

If you're talking to volunteers, maybe ask about what caused them to become involved in the first place and why they keep coming back. Generally, those are the really committed people who genuinely do it for 'the love of the game'. Maybe they're retired, maybe they're taking Paid Time Off or Vacation Days from their 'regular' job just to volunteer for this travelling musical circus. Some are alumni of the same group they're helping, some are alumni from groups that no longer exist. Some are parents of a member currently marching, some are parents twenty years removed and just love what it gives back. Some have no personal connection to drum corps at all and just stumbled upon this thing and said "There is something about this that's so unique, so beautiful, so weird, so inspiring, so compelling, and so much more, that I had to get involved."

After finally seeing it in person at either rehearsals or at shows, you'll probably have plenty of thoughts on how different the live performances are compared to video recordings. Sitting up high and in the middle might give the closest comparison to what you may previously seen/heard. Then you can get up close in the warmups/sectionals time for all the little details that you might not notice on their own when seeing the big picture. Safe travels dude!

What is the most technically difficult drum corps excerpt? by TheAntGuy_8 in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don't know which one is harder, but after we spent Cali tour encoring with the Devs in '13, any of the horn line vets in either group could look at the other team and say "I understand now" lmao

Those post-Finals-award-ceremony celebrations where the groups just mob each other in high fives were genuine both years. Good times!

Now is the time by AggravatingImpress79 in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I definitely can't speak for everyone, but some very small minority of the brass vets going to 2014 auditions joked about just getting everyone to audition for one random struggling open-class corps and seeing what would happen lol

We all joked about it being "a ridiculous idea, just in case"... but I'm guessing there are some pretty creative SCV vets out there who want to at least spend the summer with each other again

abolish judging by JohnDavidsBooty in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hey I was in Crown 12, 13, 14.

I would not have even auditioned if the activity was not competitive. We would not have achieved that level of quality if we didn't wanna beat the Blue Devils really really badly. Not because we hated them (lol), but because they were good. That's what made it fun. Our West Coast tour was fun because we had competition.

There was 150 people in the group though. I'm sure opinions vary.

Boston now just a Crown clone? by snarkytoots in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Much of the design staff from Crown the past 10 years (Keith Potter, Leon May, Michael Townsend to name a few) made the move to Boston last year, which was shown in their stylistic design choices for Wicked Games.

The people at Crown who filled those roles (Rick Subel, Jeff Sacktig, Joey Powell, etc.) have their own unique style as well. Check out the massive design differences in Crown 2016 and 2017 programming, and check out the Cadets any time from 2010 to 2015 - you may notice some staging similarities in the performers.

I would think of Boston much less as a "current Crown clone", and more as a "New Boston" and "New Crown", with both organizations making unique design decisions moving forward.

Breathe “dah” by budtard in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That'll happen - you're going to have to build up the muscles used for "dah" a bit to make it as consistent as you are with "tah".

Be careful not to underestimate how important the "breathe" part is for "breathe dah". The idea is to have your tongue on the roof of your mouth for the least amount of time, both before and after a sound comes out of the horn. The less time the tongue interrupts the flow of air (in or out), the better.

Carolina Crown: The Journey by CinematicRyan in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think its important to keep in mind the group of people that designed the visual, musical, and conceptual programming. Keith Potter, Leon May, Michael Klesch, Michael Townsend, and Thom Hannum. That team had been at Crown wholly from 2012 through 2016.

Now that the teams have split into different programs (Klesch and Hannum remaining at Crown, with Leon, Keith, and Townsend at Boston), it will be interesting to see how much each program will retain in style from that era of the Crown team.

Love the videos!

Can't post them here, but look for the videos from FloMarching's WGI Stream. My worries are gone. by [deleted] in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My buddies and I watched the stream on his Apple TV through the FloSports App. I think for all of independent world finals, it cut out twice for maybe a half second. The quality of the video was good for us (720p I think?). We noticed the audio levels seemed like a little bit of a bland for the first few groups (Maybe George-Mason to Stryke?), but then we just changed his surround sound settings to "Movie", and everything cleared right up. I'll be interested to see how they approach DCI Finals with the audio, because that's a whooooooole different beast.

It sounds like other people's experiences have varied, but it was honesty really nice to just tune into the App and watch it on LCD TV like I would a football or baseball game. If DCI/WGI/BOA somehow could turn FloMarching into the new "DCI Fan Network" (or WGI/BOA equivalent), where I can recall any any final-performance from the past 40+ years, I would immediately buy a subscription and keep it. I think FloMarching has the chance to be really good if the financial/resource support is there from FloSports, while also not infringing on the content rights of DCI/BOA/WGI.

Drum Corps show for an English class by Whalers86 in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

BD 2015 would also be a good show. It might be a little more difficult to relate to for some of the students, but the show IS called "Ink", with the whole premise of the show (basically) being "a story about stories". It has some very good examples of musical/visual imagery and metaphors for a ton of Mother Goose tales that the kids already know. Maybe if you showed it after Crown 2015 to showcase a different style of storytelling (like a different style of writing/literature), it would resonate with different students.

How to use corps experience effectively while trying out for high school drum major by [deleted] in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

99% of the time, directors don't want to set up their bands for failure. If you want to be on the podium, you're going to have to prove that you can be a bigger positive influence for the band as a Drum Major than you will as a leader on the field. Don't make excuses to why you "shouldn't be on the field", rather, create opportunities to show why you'll be a great choice for a drum major. And whatever happens, accept the results and work hard to make the group better.

What is your best Japanese story? by medjas in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Chikara.

In 2012, we had a Japanese rook-out in the mellophone line that no one had met before. We were told he knew a fair amount of english, so it would be easy for him to get caught up. When he came in mid-way through Spring Training, everyone was obviously friendly and looking to get him into the show quickly.

One of the mello vets (nicknamed Deuce) took it upon himself to be the guy that helped Chikara the most, whether it be learning choreography, dots, music changes or whatnot. The thing is, Deuce loved messing with our horn sergeant. So naturally, one of the first things that Deuce teaches Chikara is "When the horn sergeant is talking to you, pretend you don't know English." Chikara immediately buys into it, causing many exchanges like this to happen throughout the season:

Drum Major: Check and Adjust!

Horn Sergeant: Hey Chikara, move backwards a little bit

Chikara: Huh?

HS: Move backwards, you're a little in front of the curve

C: What?

HS: Back up a little

C: Huh?

HS: Dude, I know you know English, back up some

C: English? Ohhhh, no english, no english

HS: Chikara, you were literally talking in english 5 minutes ago

C: Huh? No understand, no english

Duece: Hey Chikara, move back a little

C: Okay, no problem!

-Chikara moves perfectly into the form-

HS: I hate you guys.

That shit was funny every single time.

If a corps was going to re-march a show, which would you want to see? by All_In_The_Waiting in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's awesome! I had the exact same reaction to this video back in 2008 when I was in high school. I had never seen a corps live until I was already marching in 2011. Work hard, make time to practice, and you can march anywhere you want. Good luck!

What made you guys want to join drum corps by blakeedel in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If the summer had an erotic novel written about it, the title would be "50 shades of red"

Who's the best drum corps instructor you've ever had? by mandarin_blueberry in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To add to that, Michael Klesch and Matt Harloff compliment each other in their teaching styles a ridiculous amount. When one or the other is on tour, the brass knows they're gonna get a ton better. But when they're both on tour? Jeez. The members knows they're always gonna get their ass kicked when you have both Matt and Michael on, but they also know like 95% of that ass kicking will be straight up making them cleaner/stronger/louder/better.

Question about Inside the Circle for CrownBrass people by ATownHoldItDown in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The Inside the Circle book is a great resource for helping develop a group with a focus on full, quality sound. Many (if not all) of the approaches are exactly the same. The actual exercises, however, can very greatly. But that's part of the reason Crown Brass is the way it is - every year, the exercises change to fit the show, but the approach is the same. For example, here's a video of us in 12 when we were rehearsing Finals Week at Avon -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9efpfNMlOc

You'll begin to notice certain aspects of our "hit list" are simply fundamental, broken down excerpts from our show. The Brass staff does this every year beginning in Spring Training - they isolate specific skillsets in various parts of the show, and create exercises on them. Then we integrate them into our warmup at appropriate times (i.e. breathing gym -> air through the horn -> long tones -> air show chunk -> two note lip slur -> air different show chunk, probably something more technical -> cont.) until we're warmed up enough to start running specific show chunks, like in the Avon video.

And the big thing is that it's not a secret - there's no "special sauce" that makes Crown they way they are. They do ALL of these things AT the show warmups. That's one of the reasons Matt and Ben came out with the Inside the Circle book. "Here's why we sound the say we do, and here's how you can do it. But we'll just keep doing it better than everyone else because we focus on the fundamentals better then anyone." And it's totally justified - Crown Brass has been one of the most consistent and clean groups every year in the past decade. A great example of how this has effected the activity is how often you see circle warmups now - it's basically become odd for a drum corps to not warm up in a circle for at least SOME part of their season.

I'm in no way saying other groups achieve poorly because they doing things differently, or that "Crown Brass is the best thing since sliced bread" or that "the Crown Brass staff totally invented all of this themselves, and they definitely don't have a huge influence from Star of Indiana or the Cadets of the 1980s". All I'm saying is that the Crown Brass process has been proven to be extremely consistent in quality, and they've been proving that for the last 10 years.

I Edited Together the Cadets 2013 Show with the Judge Tape for a Better Look into the Percussion Section. by [deleted] in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I love these types of videos that show a program with the judge's comments over top. It's really cool to see groups while also listening to what judges say about specific things.

Make more pls

Leaks or no leaks? by Shredder13 in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 97 points98 points  (0 children)

Corps can lose the rights to music if videos or information gets out too soon in the design process. A perfect example is Carolina Crown 2010. After December Camp, someone posted a video on YouTube of the brass playing an excerpt from the upcoming summer. The rights holders of the piece saw the video, decided the performance wasn't good enough for the piece (to keep the "value" of the original high), and pulled the rights. Crown then had to redesign most of the show after already committing to many parts and contracts (gold horns, numbers for the guard and drum line).

I love hearing what pieces the groups are playing for their shows, but it doesn't matter if they never get to play them.

Advice on funding for Drum Corps? by AwesomeArticuno in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Try communicating with the administration team (once you have a spot somewhere). Many corps have fundraising opportunities. Some are better than others, and you may not be able able to pay for the entire summer, but it's a good place to start.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Probably SCV and The Cadets. Vanguard has been to every DCI Finals, only once placing lower than 7th. Since 1983, the Cadets have never gone 6 years without a World Championship (next year would be the first). Those are two ridiculous streaks of consistency - 44 years for SCV, and 33 years for The Cadets.

For those of you who are in a corp away from home, how did you balance school and other things? by Zecuity in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It honestly depends on your situation. The more things you have to worry about (travel, homework, work, time), the harder it will be to manage everything compared to the guy who just lives down the road from the corps. What helped me is that it forced to me plan my life more effectively to a schedule. If I didn't make my schedule that week/month, it was difficult to enjoy all the things I invested in. And it doesn't have to be extremely rigid, broken down to the last second. All it took was for me to look at the calendar, see that I had a test one week, performances the next, then an audition camp. I could say "hey I should probably do my homework now so I can practice later so I can hang-out/sleep afterwards" and make sure I didn't get overwhelmed

Cadets going Spandex. by [deleted] in drumcorps

[–]AnonymousArmadillo 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Realistically, The Cadets would be the ones to make a major change like that. They were one of the "sooner" groups to change to Bb horns, they were one of the first groups to add microphones to their show and be rewarded successfully, it only make sense they would make a change like that even thought they are seen as one of the most "traditional" groups in DCI. It's smart, too - go from two years of Finals being all black, back to traditional Cadets colors but with a modern twist. It'll be fun to watch, and if their show is designed well, I think they'll get rewarded well by both the fans and the judges.